Well, at least here in USA, Logitech is the major periphral vendor, and the one I have is quite widely used, I didn't really remember that most of you are in Britain. I also didn't know about the thread retitle, my mistake. And I only meant that PS2 version is shit when compared to the PC version, and even then, only in my own opinion. And no, I'm not a tool. But actually, being ported means they should be better, because they are not only ported but also bugs are fixed, etc, and some elements of gameplay may be tightened or improved.