From reading the posts on this thread and from playing the game i have come to a conclusion. Firstly, i would like to reming yo all that Konami is a company, whose main motive is profit. it would be nice to think that they aim to please their core fans, but in truth its profit which drives them. In the uk market, what football game tops the charts? FIFA. How else for them to makes head way in the uk soccer games market than to adopt some of the features of the markets most successful game. This could be the reason for the percieved differences between WE &, which is more for the hardcore fans, and PES 3 which has been engineered to be more commercial. I have to say though that i do enjoy PES 3, but am still looking forward to buying WE 7. I think PES 3 has lost some of the quality gameplay that attractexd me to it from its ps1 days. I hope though that WE 7 still contains that level of quality