hitmanuk2k
The Boss
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Official Winning Eleven 7 Impressions Thread
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Zygalski
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I think it's the best version yet and it's harder than previous versions too.
Beckham at Man United etc but there is an unlockable option to be able to transfer players.
Throw ins: you move the receiving player instead of the thrower and press L1 to switch to another receiver. Works nicely but you can only choose between 2 players. You can through into their path with /\ too. A through throw!
Game is quite hard.
Crosses are good.
Weather effects seem the same. If raining, there are nice reflections in the puddles just off the pitch.
Brazil have licenced players but Germany don't.
Haven't seen water bottles except for in animation in preperation for penalty shootout.
The game looks very nice and player movements are fluid and more life-like.
The 4 Italian kits are good. The rest are same rubbish but all can be edited, including nationals and you can select shirt name font and number font. Colour palette is tiny but good quality to the colours - real white!
Ball seems a little light.
It seems a little fifa/tif at first but once you get used to it, it plays great.
People with the game, please try to help out with the Questions thread too. Cheers.
Beckham at Man United etc but there is an unlockable option to be able to transfer players.
Throw ins: you move the receiving player instead of the thrower and press L1 to switch to another receiver. Works nicely but you can only choose between 2 players. You can through into their path with /\ too. A through throw!
Game is quite hard.
Crosses are good.
Weather effects seem the same. If raining, there are nice reflections in the puddles just off the pitch.
Brazil have licenced players but Germany don't.
Haven't seen water bottles except for in animation in preperation for penalty shootout.
The game looks very nice and player movements are fluid and more life-like.
The 4 Italian kits are good. The rest are same rubbish but all can be edited, including nationals and you can select shirt name font and number font. Colour palette is tiny but good quality to the colours - real white!
Ball seems a little light.
It seems a little fifa/tif at first but once you get used to it, it plays great.
People with the game, please try to help out with the Questions thread too. Cheers.
Zygalski
Administrator
The_Evolution at issextreme:
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Premature analysis of Winning Eleven 7
Before relating my first impressions concerning the game, I would like to clarify that I haven’t tested a lot from the game, which is due to the simple fact that it is in Japanese. I do not have time for a big review, therefore I will divide the text into different sections.
Gameplay (most important it is not?): Ok, very superior to the one found in PES 2 and significantly superior to the one of WE6FE. The response of the players is sublime, its behaviour in the pitch is much more real and natural. The section that was submitted to the biggest improvements was without a doubt the shots – now players kick without leaving the ball to reach the soil and the animation of this moves is indeed sublime. The game has at least two new feints (the feints can now be made with the right stick) but, in contrast to FIFA, only the most endowed technical will be able to execute them correctly. For example, if Nesta from Milan do the move, most certain will be that he will leave it behind. The gameplay is sufficiently superior but still not flawless. Some bugs occurs occasionally, but with a sufficiently lesser frequency that in the previous version.
Artificial intelligence: Sufficiently superior, mainly to defend, pressuring sufficiently more and withdrawing when necessary. Another remarkable change is the way as the CPU pass the ball, sometimes executing beautiful plays.
Referee: The series have also evolved here. The faults occur with a sufficiently bigger regularity, and exist in a must bigger number (hand-balls, pushes, etc.). The referee can now let the play continues if the ball is it under the faulted team, being the gamer notified when this occurs through a symbol that appears in superior left corner of the screen.
Graphs: Much more polished, a lot of new animations and a great application of them. Simply magnificent. The menus are also very cool and are extremely User Friendly with a futuristic look (excluding the language, of course).
Players: Great part is actualized, even so still isn’t all of them. The similarities of the famous players are magnificent, while of the others are acceptable. In terms of stats, the intention of the Konami in approaching the game to reality is notable (I only find that the Deco from FC Porto and Quaresma and Ronaldinho from Barcelona could be better).
Edit: It is possible to edit national teams, clubs and players, such as in the previous version. However, it was with great satisfaction that I noticed in the brutal increase of options available. For example, it is possible to modify the mouth, the eyes, the nose, the chin and also its size of all this things.
Options: A brutal amount of options was enclosed in this version, but I cant say mutch about this. To only detach that it is possible to change the players of the national teams. About the rumor that suggests that it is possible to unlock an option to transfer players (allowing to update rosters), I cannot confirm it, but it seems very possible.
Modes: Equal to the previous ones, even so it includes the excellent option to initiate a league of national teams (as always) OR clubs, what it is excellent, mainly because we initiate with equips proper roster and not with the one of the Master League. The Master League was still not tested by me, however already I noticed that it is divided in four leagues (North, South, East, West) and that each one of these leagues possess one second division.
Generality: Still I have a lot to see, but WE7 seems to have evolved sufficient, even so still lacks from more official teams ands licences, and from an Online play mode.
9/10
Hope this review clarify some doubts. If someone have any question, just ask that I will answer.
I am a reporter for the Portuguese PSM2 mag (yes, a “sister” for the English one), and we will receive a preview version of PES3 this week, if you have any question, just ask.
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Please don't ask questions in this thread.
and remember, "don't say f**k or b*gg*r"!
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Premature analysis of Winning Eleven 7
Before relating my first impressions concerning the game, I would like to clarify that I haven’t tested a lot from the game, which is due to the simple fact that it is in Japanese. I do not have time for a big review, therefore I will divide the text into different sections.
Gameplay (most important it is not?): Ok, very superior to the one found in PES 2 and significantly superior to the one of WE6FE. The response of the players is sublime, its behaviour in the pitch is much more real and natural. The section that was submitted to the biggest improvements was without a doubt the shots – now players kick without leaving the ball to reach the soil and the animation of this moves is indeed sublime. The game has at least two new feints (the feints can now be made with the right stick) but, in contrast to FIFA, only the most endowed technical will be able to execute them correctly. For example, if Nesta from Milan do the move, most certain will be that he will leave it behind. The gameplay is sufficiently superior but still not flawless. Some bugs occurs occasionally, but with a sufficiently lesser frequency that in the previous version.
Artificial intelligence: Sufficiently superior, mainly to defend, pressuring sufficiently more and withdrawing when necessary. Another remarkable change is the way as the CPU pass the ball, sometimes executing beautiful plays.
Referee: The series have also evolved here. The faults occur with a sufficiently bigger regularity, and exist in a must bigger number (hand-balls, pushes, etc.). The referee can now let the play continues if the ball is it under the faulted team, being the gamer notified when this occurs through a symbol that appears in superior left corner of the screen.
Graphs: Much more polished, a lot of new animations and a great application of them. Simply magnificent. The menus are also very cool and are extremely User Friendly with a futuristic look (excluding the language, of course).
Players: Great part is actualized, even so still isn’t all of them. The similarities of the famous players are magnificent, while of the others are acceptable. In terms of stats, the intention of the Konami in approaching the game to reality is notable (I only find that the Deco from FC Porto and Quaresma and Ronaldinho from Barcelona could be better).
Edit: It is possible to edit national teams, clubs and players, such as in the previous version. However, it was with great satisfaction that I noticed in the brutal increase of options available. For example, it is possible to modify the mouth, the eyes, the nose, the chin and also its size of all this things.
Options: A brutal amount of options was enclosed in this version, but I cant say mutch about this. To only detach that it is possible to change the players of the national teams. About the rumor that suggests that it is possible to unlock an option to transfer players (allowing to update rosters), I cannot confirm it, but it seems very possible.
Modes: Equal to the previous ones, even so it includes the excellent option to initiate a league of national teams (as always) OR clubs, what it is excellent, mainly because we initiate with equips proper roster and not with the one of the Master League. The Master League was still not tested by me, however already I noticed that it is divided in four leagues (North, South, East, West) and that each one of these leagues possess one second division.
Generality: Still I have a lot to see, but WE7 seems to have evolved sufficient, even so still lacks from more official teams ands licences, and from an Online play mode.
9/10
Hope this review clarify some doubts. If someone have any question, just ask that I will answer.
I am a reporter for the Portuguese PSM2 mag (yes, a “sister” for the English one), and we will receive a preview version of PES3 this week, if you have any question, just ask.
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Please don't ask questions in this thread.
and remember, "don't say f**k or b*gg*r"!
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I don't know if WE7 is better than WE6FE, honestly. IMO the crossing system is s*** compared to the nice, hard crosses from We6FE, also the graphics are not so much better, and the sound is also poor. The shooting system is pretty cool, I´ve just scored from 20m with Pires with a technical shot, and yesterday I hammered one with Gerrard, nice volley from 15m, but it went wide. I like it that defenders are very aggressive, they often attack your playmaker when he only gets the ball in their half. Also it´s more difficult to dribble than in PES2, but I think it´s easier than in WE6FE, there is no more shirt-holding, which makes dribbling less complicated. There are more fouls after sliding-tackles than in WE6FE I think. But on the whole I´m happy, WE7 is maybe a little bit better than WE6FE, maybe not, but who cares, the game is definately worth it´s money.
hitmanuk2k
The Boss
i personally can not help but feel a sense of disapointment.
although i accept the game is better than previous versions thanks to improved animations, player touches, passing, shooting etc. i can not help but think all we have had since PES1 is an update. I know this may seem silly, but very little has changed since pes1, in terms of the look of the game especially. when i was told that we7 would have "a whole new graphics engine" i expected it to have just that.... and not what i think is just a reworked engine from previous versions. although the graphics engine is fine for player models, many of the other graphics in the game are still very much below par. for exanple, we still get flat crowds, we still dont have referees, camera man are like the crowd (flat). it just makes the game look poor off the pitch. on the pitch is fine, off it needs sorting.
anyway, this is just first impressions so i wont go into any more bad things. good things are the shooting, the passing and the generally improved gameplay, although to be honest it is very similar to we6fe. its also now feeling ever so slightly more arcadey. the motion blur effect in replays looks great, but when it occasionally happens during games when u do long balls it sucks. and another thing, i dont agree with the kcet team stealing all the stuff from iss3 such as the tunnel animations. they could of at least made them better, like shown the players walking out of the tunnel, if you know what i mean, instead of just going black and then all of a sudden players on the pitch. i am obviously nit picking now, but its just i think its about time our expectations should be met considering that since the ps2 came along, all we have had in the past 3 years are essentially team updates with slightly improved gameplay everytime. im hoping that next year, konami will do what si games did and essentially give the game an entire overall. then they could update that for 3 years, then again overall it.
although i accept the game is better than previous versions thanks to improved animations, player touches, passing, shooting etc. i can not help but think all we have had since PES1 is an update. I know this may seem silly, but very little has changed since pes1, in terms of the look of the game especially. when i was told that we7 would have "a whole new graphics engine" i expected it to have just that.... and not what i think is just a reworked engine from previous versions. although the graphics engine is fine for player models, many of the other graphics in the game are still very much below par. for exanple, we still get flat crowds, we still dont have referees, camera man are like the crowd (flat). it just makes the game look poor off the pitch. on the pitch is fine, off it needs sorting.
anyway, this is just first impressions so i wont go into any more bad things. good things are the shooting, the passing and the generally improved gameplay, although to be honest it is very similar to we6fe. its also now feeling ever so slightly more arcadey. the motion blur effect in replays looks great, but when it occasionally happens during games when u do long balls it sucks. and another thing, i dont agree with the kcet team stealing all the stuff from iss3 such as the tunnel animations. they could of at least made them better, like shown the players walking out of the tunnel, if you know what i mean, instead of just going black and then all of a sudden players on the pitch. i am obviously nit picking now, but its just i think its about time our expectations should be met considering that since the ps2 came along, all we have had in the past 3 years are essentially team updates with slightly improved gameplay everytime. im hoping that next year, konami will do what si games did and essentially give the game an entire overall. then they could update that for 3 years, then again overall it.
Chuck Morris
aka BlueScouse
Ahem...he's the administrator umdiddley, he controls the whole site, why the fuck would he be a FIFA fan??!!?!
hitmanuk2k
The Boss
of course i like pro evo.... i love it. but that doesnt mean i cant bitch about it when im disapointed by it. we7 is still the best game in the series, but i think its fair to expect more after 3 years of pretty much similar games.
wixon
Registered User
all the iss games on ps1 were essentially all the same. they just added club teams and the master league as they went along. I fear the next overhaul over the game won't be untill the PS3 arrives.
in reply to hitmans post, i think the off field graphics have been improved alot. the stadiums look great and at least the crowd now are "interactive" with the game.
in reply to hitmans post, i think the off field graphics have been improved alot. the stadiums look great and at least the crowd now are "interactive" with the game.
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jag87
Guest
ISS PRO was one of the best ps1 games back in the day. even with names such as Paco and Koppers.
bluescouse - Ahem...he's the administrator umdiddley, he controls the whole site, why the fuck would he be a FIFA fan??!!?!
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because he might work and control www.pesinsight.com as a job.
you never know...................he might go home and the first thing he would do is turn on his ps2 with Fifa 2003 inside!!!!!!
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because he might work and control www.pesinsight.com as a job.
you never know...................he might go home and the first thing he would do is turn on his ps2 with Fifa 2003 inside!!!!!!
hitmanuk2k
The Boss
...well if i was going to play fifa it certainly wouldnt involve turning my ps2 on...
mightygers
Registered User
Hi Guy's, I have just joined, forum is good and not too much flaming unlike other sites!!
Anyway my first impressions on the game are that the best just got better!! WEFE was good but had some flaws, I have yet to find any flaws with WE7.
The graphics are slightly crisper and the animation as very smooth, not had any jutters unlike some other people. Dribbling is now fantastic, you can really piss over defenders now with the R2 and drag inside or outside, and when you are with a good winger eg Figo, Pires it is a joy to watch them skinning the fullback. As for shooting, this has now improved big time, the volleys are amazing and when you crash one in off the bar it is almost jaw dropping stuff!! I love the way you can now chest it and volley and there is no slowdown or delay in pulling it off.
As for tricks the same old ones are there eg the double shuffle and little shimmy, but then new 360 is great, not tried the Veron one, but will do that tonight! I also love the way you can flick it over peoples heads when the ball is at knee height, pulled this off in my first game with juve when I was Del pierro and it litterally had me looking on in disbelief. One starnge thing I have found is that when I started playing on 5 stars, most games ended 0-0 and I only managed to score 1 goal in about 7 games, but when I played on 3 stars I managed to score more, but also let in more, far more 3-2 games and 2-1.
All in all it is fantastic and I cant wait for the english patch to start a proper master league!!! And once we get the proper shirts ect this game will be increadible, is there much point of EA releasing FIFA 2004? I think not!!!!
Anyway my first impressions on the game are that the best just got better!! WEFE was good but had some flaws, I have yet to find any flaws with WE7.
The graphics are slightly crisper and the animation as very smooth, not had any jutters unlike some other people. Dribbling is now fantastic, you can really piss over defenders now with the R2 and drag inside or outside, and when you are with a good winger eg Figo, Pires it is a joy to watch them skinning the fullback. As for shooting, this has now improved big time, the volleys are amazing and when you crash one in off the bar it is almost jaw dropping stuff!! I love the way you can now chest it and volley and there is no slowdown or delay in pulling it off.
As for tricks the same old ones are there eg the double shuffle and little shimmy, but then new 360 is great, not tried the Veron one, but will do that tonight! I also love the way you can flick it over peoples heads when the ball is at knee height, pulled this off in my first game with juve when I was Del pierro and it litterally had me looking on in disbelief. One starnge thing I have found is that when I started playing on 5 stars, most games ended 0-0 and I only managed to score 1 goal in about 7 games, but when I played on 3 stars I managed to score more, but also let in more, far more 3-2 games and 2-1.
All in all it is fantastic and I cant wait for the english patch to start a proper master league!!! And once we get the proper shirts ect this game will be increadible, is there much point of EA releasing FIFA 2004? I think not!!!!
What's great about WE7:
<LI>Plays like a dream - it is the best of the series, as we all knew it was going to be.</LI>
<LI>Player movement much more realistic - in fact, the new graphics engine is astounding.</LI>
<LI>Greater feeling of control of your players</LI>
<LI>Much wider range of options at throw-ins</LI>
<LI>The ball physics are much more realistic - if the ball bounces off a shin, then the direction reflects this.</LI>
<LI>Corners are great - not achieved it yet, but it looks well-possible to curl one directly into goal</LI>
<LI>Nice touches like brief cuts to players reactions during the match - doesn't happen so often to be annoying</LI>
<LI>Hand balls - it's about time.</LI>
<LI>New 'showboating' moves are another nice touch</LI>
<LI>Ability to have the player's name above the player - either the actual player (ie., Zidane) or the person playing (ie., Thom) - makes it much easier during multi-player co-op matches</LI>
<LI>General presentation looks top quality all round</LI>
What's crap about WE7:
<LI>Japanese language barrier prohibits serious exploration into Master League.</LI>
<LI>Is it me or are the goal-keepers a bit on the weak-side?</LI>
<LI>WE-SHOP 'speed' option just allows the play to go faster, not slower.</LI>
<LI>Still feels a little unpolished - then, I think most of the WE entries into the series generally does</LI>
To be honest, I couldn't care less about what football boots are in the game, or that there's no online play option, what stadiums are there, or that Beckham still plays for Manchester United. So what?
<LI>Plays like a dream - it is the best of the series, as we all knew it was going to be.</LI>
<LI>Player movement much more realistic - in fact, the new graphics engine is astounding.</LI>
<LI>Greater feeling of control of your players</LI>
<LI>Much wider range of options at throw-ins</LI>
<LI>The ball physics are much more realistic - if the ball bounces off a shin, then the direction reflects this.</LI>
<LI>Corners are great - not achieved it yet, but it looks well-possible to curl one directly into goal</LI>
<LI>Nice touches like brief cuts to players reactions during the match - doesn't happen so often to be annoying</LI>
<LI>Hand balls - it's about time.</LI>
<LI>New 'showboating' moves are another nice touch</LI>
<LI>Ability to have the player's name above the player - either the actual player (ie., Zidane) or the person playing (ie., Thom) - makes it much easier during multi-player co-op matches</LI>
<LI>General presentation looks top quality all round</LI>
What's crap about WE7:
<LI>Japanese language barrier prohibits serious exploration into Master League.</LI>
<LI>Is it me or are the goal-keepers a bit on the weak-side?</LI>
<LI>WE-SHOP 'speed' option just allows the play to go faster, not slower.</LI>
<LI>Still feels a little unpolished - then, I think most of the WE entries into the series generally does</LI>
To be honest, I couldn't care less about what football boots are in the game, or that there's no online play option, what stadiums are there, or that Beckham still plays for Manchester United. So what?