Official Winning Eleven 7 Impressions Thread
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well guys I'm in england and I'm just gonna wait for PES3 to come out here.......
the waiting just makes it better!
can't wait to go into town (hope theres no smegging que!) pick up me a copy bring it home, thens theres that lovely "new" smell when you crack it open,
also that moment when I remove PES2 from my PS with a contempt barely imaginable the day before!
(i'll stick it on the heap with, ISS 1 +2, PES etc....)
and all the years and months of waiting will be worth the impending satisfaction.
roll on november!
the waiting just makes it better!
can't wait to go into town (hope theres no smegging que!) pick up me a copy bring it home, thens theres that lovely "new" smell when you crack it open,
also that moment when I remove PES2 from my PS with a contempt barely imaginable the day before!
(i'll stick it on the heap with, ISS 1 +2, PES etc....)
and all the years and months of waiting will be worth the impending satisfaction.
roll on november!
Zygalski
Administrator
Review of WE7 by CWright (evo-web):-
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At the start of July I was asked if I wouldn’t mind writing a review for Winning Eleven 7. I thought, “It shouldn’t be too tough after all I have been playing the game in its various forms for the last few years, how much different can it be?”
How wrong I was, playing the game in its native language is baffling no matter how many years you have been playing the WE/PES series.
Anyway I was asked and seeing as the boss is currently on a tour of the Philippines looking for a wife with no possible method of contact I suppose I have to carry on regardless.
On booting the game for the first time you get an intro that is similar to the one that started PES2 but instead of the wonderful display of finishing you are treated to some of the most dismal defending that makes even Sunderland’s back four look good.
After watching that you get some cheesy Yank announcing that you are now playing “Winning Eleven 7” just in case you were unsure as to which game you had started. Then the main menu appears and something strikes you straight away, it’s in English! Before you get too excited and dash off to order it I have to warn you, the main menu is currently the only menu that is in English, everything else is in Japanese.
So we now move onto how the game actually plays. Some people have been complaining that the new game `feels` different from the previous version. I will admit that during my first few games I also thought it felt different but it wasn’t a bad thing it was just that it was a slightly new system. The way the ball moved was different and it wasn’t until I had those few games under my belt that it dawned on me, it was more realistic. It reacts like a real football would, when Zidane has it for instance he pings passes left, right and centre without breaking his stride. On the flip side of that we have Heskey and although he is a good target man he can’t pass the ball for toffee. As I said it’s more realistic. Konami have also tweaked the striking animation so it now looks like your player is actually striking the ball as a real footballer would. Next we have the way the players move. In PES2 it wasn’t really that bad, you could pick out the players who had their own signature moves, with WE7 it’s pretty much the same but the variety with other players is also part of the game in as much as they all seem to have their own way of running and moving with the ball.
There is also a new addition when playing the game. Those who have been reading the forums will have seen it being referred to as `Libeiro Grande` mode. This is a nod to the shoddy game that pioneered the idea; unfortunately the game engine wasn’t up to much, thankfully with WE7 it works very well. On starting the game in this mode you pick the one player who you want to be for the whole 90 minutes. You may think it sounds a bit dodgy but believe me timing your runs as an attacker takes a bit of practice. The camera in this mode works as it does when you are playing as the whole team, its follows the ball so you need to rely on the scanner even more when flying solo. All in all it’s a good addition to the game and adds a bit more to the way you play.
Now we move onto the sound in the game. I’m no expert but to me it sounds exactly the same as WE6 did. The commentary may well be new and improved if you are Japanese but for me Kabira and his mate may well as well not have bothered turning up in the recording booth. The stadiums will also seem like much quieter places for those of us who added one of the many chant patches to our other versions. There are some noises from the stands when you score or there is a Thomas Repka style challenge on the pitch. Apart from that not much has changed, ah well you can’t have it all.
The way the players actually look has always been the cause of much discussion. This version is no different; we have all the recognisable players in the game even those we don’t want to look at, mentioning no buck toothed Brazilians by name as I think they know who they are. There is also a huge amount of in game editing options available to you. You can change a players face, hairstyle and even weight to keep the game bang up to date. For example you can make Wayne Rooney fatter and give Becks his even more girly hairdo should you feel the need.
One thing I haven’t mentioned during this review is that by playing matches and winning Cups you are awarded WEN points. What’s a WEN point I hear you ask? Well it’s a cunning ploy by Konami to put in a few extra features that you have to work to achieve. Certain points unlock certain things such as extra hairdos, extra teams and other delights that I won’t ruin for you.
The Master League also returns and from what I can tell there isn’t much that has changed. There is one thing that has though; you now have 4 divisions to work your way through as opposed to the 3 in PES2. Again you start with the same band of no hopers and have to build them into a team capable of challenging for titles. Much wheeling and dealing is required in order to make your team the team of your dreams but it’s a good way of putting some players together who you would never see in real life, unless you support Chelsea.
Overall it’s a good addition to the series and has enough features to make you want to keep coming back for more. You can now officially bin every other football game you have; this is the only one you will need.
Plus Points
- New player animations
- Now replay at any time, yes they have finally listened
- More teams
Minus Points
- Still no ref on the field at all times
- Crossing requires much more practice
- Dammit, can’t come up with 3…..
Final Score 9.5 out of 10 – Football perfection
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At the start of July I was asked if I wouldn’t mind writing a review for Winning Eleven 7. I thought, “It shouldn’t be too tough after all I have been playing the game in its various forms for the last few years, how much different can it be?”
How wrong I was, playing the game in its native language is baffling no matter how many years you have been playing the WE/PES series.
Anyway I was asked and seeing as the boss is currently on a tour of the Philippines looking for a wife with no possible method of contact I suppose I have to carry on regardless.
On booting the game for the first time you get an intro that is similar to the one that started PES2 but instead of the wonderful display of finishing you are treated to some of the most dismal defending that makes even Sunderland’s back four look good.
After watching that you get some cheesy Yank announcing that you are now playing “Winning Eleven 7” just in case you were unsure as to which game you had started. Then the main menu appears and something strikes you straight away, it’s in English! Before you get too excited and dash off to order it I have to warn you, the main menu is currently the only menu that is in English, everything else is in Japanese.
So we now move onto how the game actually plays. Some people have been complaining that the new game `feels` different from the previous version. I will admit that during my first few games I also thought it felt different but it wasn’t a bad thing it was just that it was a slightly new system. The way the ball moved was different and it wasn’t until I had those few games under my belt that it dawned on me, it was more realistic. It reacts like a real football would, when Zidane has it for instance he pings passes left, right and centre without breaking his stride. On the flip side of that we have Heskey and although he is a good target man he can’t pass the ball for toffee. As I said it’s more realistic. Konami have also tweaked the striking animation so it now looks like your player is actually striking the ball as a real footballer would. Next we have the way the players move. In PES2 it wasn’t really that bad, you could pick out the players who had their own signature moves, with WE7 it’s pretty much the same but the variety with other players is also part of the game in as much as they all seem to have their own way of running and moving with the ball.
There is also a new addition when playing the game. Those who have been reading the forums will have seen it being referred to as `Libeiro Grande` mode. This is a nod to the shoddy game that pioneered the idea; unfortunately the game engine wasn’t up to much, thankfully with WE7 it works very well. On starting the game in this mode you pick the one player who you want to be for the whole 90 minutes. You may think it sounds a bit dodgy but believe me timing your runs as an attacker takes a bit of practice. The camera in this mode works as it does when you are playing as the whole team, its follows the ball so you need to rely on the scanner even more when flying solo. All in all it’s a good addition to the game and adds a bit more to the way you play.
Now we move onto the sound in the game. I’m no expert but to me it sounds exactly the same as WE6 did. The commentary may well be new and improved if you are Japanese but for me Kabira and his mate may well as well not have bothered turning up in the recording booth. The stadiums will also seem like much quieter places for those of us who added one of the many chant patches to our other versions. There are some noises from the stands when you score or there is a Thomas Repka style challenge on the pitch. Apart from that not much has changed, ah well you can’t have it all.
The way the players actually look has always been the cause of much discussion. This version is no different; we have all the recognisable players in the game even those we don’t want to look at, mentioning no buck toothed Brazilians by name as I think they know who they are. There is also a huge amount of in game editing options available to you. You can change a players face, hairstyle and even weight to keep the game bang up to date. For example you can make Wayne Rooney fatter and give Becks his even more girly hairdo should you feel the need.
One thing I haven’t mentioned during this review is that by playing matches and winning Cups you are awarded WEN points. What’s a WEN point I hear you ask? Well it’s a cunning ploy by Konami to put in a few extra features that you have to work to achieve. Certain points unlock certain things such as extra hairdos, extra teams and other delights that I won’t ruin for you.
The Master League also returns and from what I can tell there isn’t much that has changed. There is one thing that has though; you now have 4 divisions to work your way through as opposed to the 3 in PES2. Again you start with the same band of no hopers and have to build them into a team capable of challenging for titles. Much wheeling and dealing is required in order to make your team the team of your dreams but it’s a good way of putting some players together who you would never see in real life, unless you support Chelsea.
Overall it’s a good addition to the series and has enough features to make you want to keep coming back for more. You can now officially bin every other football game you have; this is the only one you will need.
Plus Points
- New player animations
- Now replay at any time, yes they have finally listened
- More teams
Minus Points
- Still no ref on the field at all times
- Crossing requires much more practice
- Dammit, can’t come up with 3…..
Final Score 9.5 out of 10 – Football perfection
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Zygalski
Administrator
Just had a game as Wales V Italy.
Bellamy was brought down on the edge of the area.
Foul given.
Wasn't sure what would happen as the foul was on the line.
Video of ref pointing to the spot!!!
-----------Excellent!!!!!!!----------
Giggs (commentator prounces him like Pires with a G - Gires)
SCORES!
Won 1-0.
The video was a great touch.
Bellamy was brought down on the edge of the area.
Foul given.
Wasn't sure what would happen as the foul was on the line.
Video of ref pointing to the spot!!!
-----------Excellent!!!!!!!----------
Giggs (commentator prounces him like Pires with a G - Gires)
SCORES!
Won 1-0.
The video was a great touch.
J
jag87
Guest
Gires? my we6fe used to sound like Gigerson for Giggs! LOL
Zygalski
Administrator
I won the world cup with a goal in extra time.
It was a silver goal not a golden goal as I thought it would be.
Nice to know they keep up to date.
Thing is, at the end pages of the cup, it showed I won 1-0 but the big score under that said 2-0 to me.
Played a Libero Grande match as Beckham.
It finished 1-0 with a 35m Beckham free kick into the top right corner, YES!
It was a silver goal not a golden goal as I thought it would be.
Nice to know they keep up to date.
Thing is, at the end pages of the cup, it showed I won 1-0 but the big score under that said 2-0 to me.
Played a Libero Grande match as Beckham.
It finished 1-0 with a 35m Beckham free kick into the top right corner, YES!
J
jag87
Guest
how do you access the 'libero grande' menu zy?
J
jag87
Guest
how do you access the 'libero grande' menu zy?
Zygalski
Administrator
Before the match, go to the controller select screen.
You can press L1 or R1 to change the level of player switching between Manual and Auto.
Keep pressing L1 to put it all the way to Manual.
Then press L1 again - this is the "Libero Grande" mode and when you go to the formation screen, it lets you select which player you want to play as.
(I managed to accidentaly access this mode in my first two matches in WE7 when I didn't know what I was doing)
You have to play with the normal cameras and they focus on the ball and not your player so you have to use the scanner and not rush about like a headless chicken.
As Beckham, I played in some amazing through balls to Owen and Vassell but they didn't manage to score.
You can press L1 or R1 to change the level of player switching between Manual and Auto.
Keep pressing L1 to put it all the way to Manual.
Then press L1 again - this is the "Libero Grande" mode and when you go to the formation screen, it lets you select which player you want to play as.
(I managed to accidentaly access this mode in my first two matches in WE7 when I didn't know what I was doing)
You have to play with the normal cameras and they focus on the ball and not your player so you have to use the scanner and not rush about like a headless chicken.
As Beckham, I played in some amazing through balls to Owen and Vassell but they didn't manage to score.
J
jag87
Guest
just tried it with Ruud Van Nistelrooy. Scored twice!!