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Pes 2009 Ps2 Major Glitch!!!

hellmo LFC

Registered User
I have the US version and have only had the Individual Stats glitch. I won a game 3-0 and scored a hat trick with the default players only to have the game freeze up after I tried to look at the Individual Stats. I have the reset prevention mode on and ended up forfeiting the match 0-3 because I had to reset. Man I was so pissed I haven't played the Master League since this happened. It's a shame and needs to be corrected
 

trevelyan

Registered User
I mailed Konami support 2 days ago but still no reply so I decided to call.

Here's how the conversation went:

Me: Hi, I have a problem with PES for my PS2, can you tell me if there are any known problems?

Konami girl: What problem are you having?

Me: Firstly, can you confirm if Konami are aware of a major problem with this game:

KG: Well, not really, what problem are you having?

Me: Well, I'd like to know if Konami are aware of any problems, you seem to be avoiding answering the question?

KG: Is it the subtitution problem?

Me: LOL


My point is, they know about the problem and they didn't wanna readily admit to it. She said that they've only been receiving reports of this problem since the start of this week and the support people are still to make an announcement.



Without a master league, it's just not worth playing. I've been playing PES since it was ISS and never seen a problem like this. In fact, I don't ever remember seeing any major type glitches. This is the first and it's a whopper. The only solution must be total product recall and replacement by working copies which I'm sure they don't have as yet. It seems that they've released a dud....wonder what they'll do.

BTW, here's the number to call (UK)

01895 446651


lol what a load of crap!
Im going to give them a ring now. Thanks for the number bro :)
 

ariesta_v

Registered User
I've got a little bit "trick" to resolve the "subs" glitch problems, is to make a subtitution during half time period. The downside of this trick, if you used all your subs option then got your player injured in the middle, or if you're not use all of it but the injured player is your "goal scorer" whom must be replaced, well lets just say you're out of luck, lol.
 

poppajay

Registered User
I am on my sixth season in bal mode and still havent had any problems!

That's because the problem doesn't exist in BAL mode, or at least there have been no reported problems with this mode yet.

Try a master league, do some subs, check post match player stats, and tell us what you find. You can usually get through 3 or 4 matches before the bug bites.
 

hodisgod

Registered User
substitution Bug

You are right. I already had the substitution bug before. Just 10 minutes ago, I experienced the game crash too. Something else I experienced is that my Game Plan changed by itself. Yea, X button changed to "CB Overlap" by itself. Seeing Silvestre(CB) joining attacks I checked the game plan and I saw that for X button "CB Overlap" was selected. Maybe I changed it unintentionally?! Hope I did! Strange!

PS: I love the gameplay.

I get the substitution bug all the time. I contacted Konami Europe and basically they said it's because iv'e edited the teams. They said delete all the data and start again without editing. tossers!
 

hodisgod

Registered User
I keep getting the substitution bug and this is the E-Mail i sent to Konami:

I am writing to complain about the substitution bug that ruins PES 2009.
As you are probably aware, it happens quite regularly that when you make a substitution in the game the player/S that you removed somehow re-appear back on the pitch after a couple of minutes. You cannot re-sub them and all players involved in the substitutions experience points are reduced to zero. If like me you buy this game predominantly to play the master league mode then the game is effectively ruined.
When you couple this problem with the fact that there are only two spare team slots to edit, meaning that my representation of the English Premiership in master league mode is infiltrated with foreign teams from the start, taking away the sense of achievement of qualifying from your domestic league to take on the cream of Europe and rendering the whole thing just plain annoying and pointless.
This is the third E-Mail address I've been given to complain about this problem, with the previous two U. K based Konami ones stating that they were aware of the problem but had no idea what,if anything was going to be done about it.
I have been buying this series since ISS on the PS 1, and despite the fact that Konami seem to be content with putting the bare minimum effort in to the game year after year ,regularly offering less than the previous version,I have never felt the urge to complain until now.
Can you honestly claim that this is a true representation of the modern game of Football ???
When Tottenham Hotspurs' ( English Premiership side, also known as North East London ) first game in what is supposed to be the Coca Cola Championship ( that's the English second division to you ) is away to Boca Juniors?????
If these monumental cock-ups can be resolved I might just consider persevering with this title , if not, and I never thought I would say it, it has to be FIFA from now on.
Or maybe Konami should finally do the decent thing and let E. A sports have their game engine, then Football fans around the world would finally get the game they deserve.

And this was thier reply:

Dear customer,

Thank you very much for contacting the Konami customer support team.

You have reported an error of which we are aware. In order to help you
further, please answer the following questions:

-Was a memory card used or not?
-What teams were used?
-Was the formation of the team modified?
-Who was substituted for whom?
-What stadium was selected?
-Have you edited any of the players or teams?
-Please describe step by step what happened before the problem occured

Also, please delete all savegames related to PES 2009 from your memory card
and try again.


We apologize for the inconvenience this problem may have caused you.

And my reposte:

What ?? so your saying you can't edit the game in any way or its going to fuck it up!!!

DON'T TAKE THE PISS!!!!
 

channelle

New Member
got a copy last night after waiting a year.. then found 2 amazing glitches!!
1) when making a sub the player you actually bring on doesn't actually come on but instead is blacked out!

2) when you finish a match and wanna find out who was man of the match it just crashes!!

to be honest it seems to happen randomly but still..
Im so disappointed about this was really enjoying the game up until i came across this. anyone else have the same problem?

it happens on world tour mode when the mission is to score with a substitute, wot a balls up!
 

trevelyan

Registered User
I keep getting the substitution bug and this is the E-Mail i sent to Konami:

I am writing to complain about the substitution bug that ruins PES 2009.
As you are probably aware, it happens quite regularly that when you make a substitution in the game the player/S that you removed somehow re-appear back on the pitch after a couple of minutes. You cannot re-sub them and all players involved in the substitutions experience points are reduced to zero. If like me you buy this game predominantly to play the master league mode then the game is effectively ruined.
When you couple this problem with the fact that there are only two spare team slots to edit, meaning that my representation of the English England League in master league mode is infiltrated with foreign teams from the start, taking away the sense of achievement of qualifying from your domestic league to take on the cream of Europe and rendering the whole thing just plain annoying and pointless.
This is the third E-Mail address I've been given to complain about this problem, with the previous two U. K based Konami ones stating that they were aware of the problem but had no idea what,if anything was going to be done about it.
I have been buying this series since ISS on the PS 1, and despite the fact that Konami seem to be content with putting the bare minimum effort in to the game year after year ,regularly offering less than the previous version,I have never felt the urge to complain until now.
Can you honestly claim that this is a true representation of the modern game of Football ???
When Tottenham Hotspurs' ( English England League side, also known as North East London ) first game in what is supposed to be the Coca Cola Championship ( that's the English second division to you ) is away to Boca Juniors?????
If these monumental cock-ups can be resolved I might just consider persevering with this title , if not, and I never thought I would say it, it has to be FIFA from now on.
Or maybe Konami should finally do the decent thing and let E. A sports have their game engine, then Football fans around the world would finally get the game they deserve.

And this was thier reply:

Dear customer,

Thank you very much for contacting the Konami customer support team.

You have reported an error of which we are aware. In order to help you
further, please answer the following questions:

-Was a memory card used or not?
-What teams were used?
-Was the formation of the team modified?
-Who was substituted for whom?
-What stadium was selected?
-Have you edited any of the players or teams?
-Please describe step by step what happened before the problem occured

Also, please delete all savegames related to PES 2009 from your memory card
and try again.


We apologize for the inconvenience this problem may have caused you.

And my reposte:

What ?? so your saying you can't edit the game in any way or its going to fuck it up!!!

DON'T TAKE THE PISS!!!!

lol i spoke to them on phone and got this story also.. What a load of rubbish!
 

trevelyan

Registered User
I think i have found away around this..
Try changing the commentary language to italian or spanish.
Had a few games last night with not one glitch. i remembered my friend had a scrartched disc once and that if you changed the language his game would work.
Guess the ps2 lens would read from a different part of the disk!?

Anyway try it. Im not a 100% on this but it was all good last night..
:)
 

stalfoss

Registered User
The sub stuff havent happened to me. BUT the game crashes from time to time when i want to check stats after a game. I often happend after i played around 6-10 matches in a row..... It have happend to me around 5 times, and Im saving after every match now.... only prevention!
 

timstone

Registered User
Sub Glitch!

Yep. I've had the same problem, I was gonna take it back today, but thought I'd check online first and it looks like everyone has the problem!

I'll be emailing Konami also!
 

NextBigThing

Registered User
I keep getting the substitution bug and this is the E-Mail i sent to Konami:

I am writing to complain about the substitution bug that ruins PES 2009.
As you are probably aware, it happens quite regularly that when you make a substitution in the game the player/S that you removed somehow re-appear back on the pitch after a couple of minutes. You cannot re-sub them and all players involved in the substitutions experience points are reduced to zero. If like me you buy this game predominantly to play the master league mode then the game is effectively ruined.
When you couple this problem with the fact that there are only two spare team slots to edit, meaning that my representation of the English England League in master league mode is infiltrated with foreign teams from the start, taking away the sense of achievement of qualifying from your domestic league to take on the cream of Europe and rendering the whole thing just plain annoying and pointless.
This is the third E-Mail address I've been given to complain about this problem, with the previous two U. K based Konami ones stating that they were aware of the problem but had no idea what,if anything was going to be done about it.
I have been buying this series since ISS on the PS 1, and despite the fact that Konami seem to be content with putting the bare minimum effort in to the game year after year ,regularly offering less than the previous version,I have never felt the urge to complain until now.
Can you honestly claim that this is a true representation of the modern game of Football ???
When Tottenham Hotspurs' ( English England League side, also known as North East London ) first game in what is supposed to be the Coca Cola Championship ( that's the English second division to you ) is away to Boca Juniors?????
If these monumental cock-ups can be resolved I might just consider persevering with this title , if not, and I never thought I would say it, it has to be FIFA from now on.
Or maybe Konami should finally do the decent thing and let E. A sports have their game engine, then Football fans around the world would finally get the game they deserve.

And this was thier reply:

Dear customer,

Thank you very much for contacting the Konami customer support team.

You have reported an error of which we are aware. In order to help you
further, please answer the following questions:

-Was a memory card used or not?
-What teams were used?
-Was the formation of the team modified?
-Who was substituted for whom?
-What stadium was selected?
-Have you edited any of the players or teams?
-Please describe step by step what happened before the problem occured

Also, please delete all savegames related to PES 2009 from your memory card
and try again.


We apologize for the inconvenience this problem may have caused you.

And my reposte:

What ?? so your saying you can't edit the game in any way or its going to fuck it up!!!

DON'T TAKE THE PISS!!!!


GUYS THIS IS IMPORTANT I HAVE FOUND A WAY TO STOP THE SUBSITIUTION BUG but before telling i got the exact same reply from konami and they never replied again -.- . SO TO STOP THE SUBSITUITION BUG YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE SUBSITUTED PLAYERS ARE NOT SET PIECE TAKERS OR PENALTY TAKERS MEANING LET'S SAY IF YOU WANT TO SUB RONALDO OUT MAKE SURE U CHANGE THE FREE KICK TAKER TO ANOTHER PERSON THEN SUB HIM OUT AND THE BUG DID NOT OCCUR FOR ME . IF IT STILL HAPPENS I'M SORRY BUT I AM SURE THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO STOP IT NOW :):)
 

Scayziecell

Registered User
how many games has this worked for u?? im guessing if thats wat makes the subs glitch the if u do 3subs n one of them is a kick taker all the subs u made at that one point will be reversed! im guna play a PES marrathon tonight n test this theory n ill report the findings later. ive also been keeping a check of when the glitch happens to see if it may have a pattern to it if ur theory doesnt work, thanks.
 

NextBigThing

Registered User
how many games has this worked for u?? im guessing if thats wat makes the subs glitch the if u do 3subs n one of them is a kick taker all the subs u made at that one point will be reversed! im guna play a PES marrathon tonight n test this theory n ill report the findings later. ive also been keeping a check of when the glitch happens to see if it may have a pattern to it if ur theory doesnt work, thanks.
I've played like 8 matches without getting the glitch as long as i adjust the free kick taker settings :) do post the result here as i forgot to mention it worked on my psp i dunno bout the ps2 :) i'm sure its the same problem
 

ERR

New Member
Substitution bug

I've played like 8 matches without getting the glitch as long as i adjust the free kick taker settings :) do post the result here as i forgot to mention it worked on my psp i dunno bout the ps2 :) i'm sure its the same problem

I wish your remedial measure were correct. Unfortunately, switching the set-piece taker prior to effecting a substitution does not seem to offer a long-lasting solution to the problem. Whilst playing Konami Cup last night with MU, I happened to substitute Park Ji Sung (who was not assigned any set-piece responsibilities) with Tevez. As graphically detailed throughout this forum, Park remained on the pitch - and Tevez's name was blacked out meaning that I could no longer bring him on!!:shocking:

Last night was actually the first time that I had to endure the overwhelming torment of witnessing the bug in action. It is profoundly frustrating as the game itself is a real gem - a superlative and unsurpassed simulation of football replete with smooth polished gameplay. Does anyone know whether Konami will issue a new batch of PES 2009 in the not-too-distant future in order to remedy this problem? Alternatively, does anyone have a permanent solution to resolving the bug issue? On another note, I have yet to test the theory as to whether (as suggested by someone else in this forum) switching the commentary language to Spanish or Italian offers a definitive panacea:unsure: ... I urgently look forward to receiving any new information on this pressing topic ...
 

Scayziecell

Registered User
subs glitch results

well in a long stint i played 17 games in a row with my master league side,and the results are inconclusive!.
each of these matches i made substitutions as i would normally at the times i would normaly n took off the people i would. the glitch ocurred 4times out of the 17, most matches i tried the SET PIECE idea here are my results.

0 = No Glitch
x = Glitch
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 x 0 0 x 0 x 0 0 0 x

as u can see i went 7 games without the glitch occuring making subs and using this set piece idea, but on the 8th GAME i subed NASRI for SRNA at Half-Time, n bout 10-15mins into the second half NASRI appeared back on the field.

The 2nd time the glitch occured i subed BEN ARFA + GIOVANI for NASRI + IRELAND and within 2mins they wer back on.

for the 12th match i tested the set piece idea by subing M.PETROV off (Who takes my long range FKs + Left Corners) still with him taking those kicks n the glitch didnt happen.

in the 13th match sumthin wierd happened, i subed WRIGHT-PHILLIPS for GIOVANI, the glitch occured, it showd on the subs menu WP was back on the field n GIOVANI was blacked out, but GIOVANI was on???

in the final match i subd GOMIS for JO early in the second half, that was fine, but later when i subd ROBINHO + WRIGHT-PHILLIPS for BOJAN KRKIC + M.ZARATE and the glitch happened almost instanly.

so my results are inconclusive, im trying to stpo a link between each sub that made the glitch happen cus something HAS to be triggering the glitch when u make certain subs? the only thing i can see in these subs is that atleast one of the original players being subed started the game as a set piece taker but i dont think thats it!! wats really annoying with the glitch happening on ML is that the players who the glitch happens to (originals and layers who r subd on) dont get any rating cus the game is obviously suppose to crash n if u go back to the ML menu without going to individual game records the players dnt get a rating so no stats increase, even if uve scored 4GOALS (has happened to me).

please post any help thanks.

its really annoying now and im guna get onto Konami again today n find out wats going on cus thers no excuse for this.
 

NextBigThing

Registered User
well in a long stint i played 17 games in a row with my master league side,and the results are inconclusive!.
each of these matches i made substitutions as i would normally at the times i would normaly n took off the people i would. the glitch ocurred 4times out of the 17, most matches i tried the SET PIECE idea here are my results.

0 = No Glitch
x = Glitch
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 x 0 0 x 0 x 0 0 0 x

as u can see i went 7 games without the glitch occuring making subs and using this set piece idea, but on the 8th GAME i subed NASRI for SRNA at Half-Time, n bout 10-15mins into the second half NASRI appeared back on the field.

The 2nd time the glitch occured i subed BEN ARFA + GIOVANI for NASRI + IRELAND and within 2mins they wer back on.

for the 12th match i tested the set piece idea by subing M.PETROV off (Who takes my long range FKs + Left Corners) still with him taking those kicks n the glitch didnt happen.

in the 13th match sumthin wierd happened, i subed WRIGHT-PHILLIPS for GIOVANI, the glitch occured, it showd on the subs menu WP was back on the field n GIOVANI was blacked out, but GIOVANI was on???

in the final match i subd GOMIS for JO early in the second half, that was fine, but later when i subd ROBINHO + WRIGHT-PHILLIPS for BOJAN KRKIC + M.ZARATE and the glitch happened almost instanly.

so my results are inconclusive, im trying to stpo a link between each sub that made the glitch happen cus something HAS to be triggering the glitch when u make certain subs? the only thing i can see in these subs is that atleast one of the original players being subed started the game as a set piece taker but i dont think thats it!! wats really annoying with the glitch happening on ML is that the players who the glitch happens to (originals and layers who r subd on) dont get any rating cus the game is obviously suppose to crash n if u go back to the ML menu without going to individual game records the players dnt get a rating so no stats increase, even if uve scored 4GOALS (has happened to me).

please post any help thanks.

its really annoying now and im guna get onto Konami again today n find out wats going on cus thers no excuse for this.

Sorry it did not work but i hope it did get better and occur less frequently.
 

nyasson2

Registered User
look the way i see it is that we shoudn't b having to find ways around it, there shud not be a problem at all!! me and alot of people have spent money on a game that don't work?! no!! its not right i say everyone shud complain period
 
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