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PES 2015- What needs to be fixed

anonymadde

Registered User
Well i must say im impressed by PES 2015. It is by far the best PES in many years. However, there are some things that really are bothering me.

1: Training mode: This COMPLETELY SUCKS! Now im talking about the open training mode. I remember in previous PES-versions when you could repeat situations just by pressing pause and choose which moment you would like to repeat. The game had a memory for about 10 seconds. This was excellent when you wanted to practice certain situations. Like, you had the ball at the cornerflag and had the AI against you and wanted to dribble him. If you lost the ball, you could just repeat this moment. Why this disappeared i have no clue. This is far better then any other training mode i've ever seen. You could repeat situations untiil you reached excellence. Please patch this in, shouldnt be too much work. Now i must setup the same situations if i want to practice them, which takes a lot of time.

2: The AI has some magic ability to read my through balls eventhough they are facing the other direction. This is supposed to be a simulator. This is arcade-style. Just ridicolous. And they are even capable of in the same move pass the ball to their teammate, still facing the other direction. This is just not realistic. For me, this brings the gameplay down a lot.

3: The dribbling. I fint it hard to execute feints in tight situations, which is where you need them. Maybe its just me, i don't know. I just think the response time is too long.

4: I've played through one season in master league. I've had 4 freekicks. In total. Most of them in the middle part of the plan. While the AI opponents get about 10 freekicks. It seems like the AI can tackle perfect in every situation, and even when they do tackle bad, the ref lets it go. Oh, but once, the AI actually got a yellow card. This really bothers me. I've never had a freekick that is even close to goal.

5: The menus sucks, but that's not new. They're lagging, but that's not new.

6: Why does most players have the physical status of a 80-year old smoker? Many players can't play longer than 60-70 minutes without getting completely exhausted. Do you realize that this is supposed to be top-trained athletes? I get that you want to make the physical ability a bigger deal, but this is just ridicolous. FIX THIS!

I still love the game though... For me, the absolutely most important thing to fix is the AI defenders ability to intercept throughballs while facing the other way. This is so unrealistic. Well. Thats all from me.
 

ListerOfSmeg

Registered User
It may just be me, but I really struggle to play a straight pass through the lines in midfield. It just seems to always lock on the the defender in the middle of a large space.

The players don't always pass it quick enough.

Too often, I tackle somebody and the ball bounces back to them.

There seems to be no online co-op. I mean what the fuck? It's basic.
 

St Miguel

Registered User
AI LAZY Pressing

Im playing Master League with hardest difficulty. In a league game between Burnley - Manu. 24 mins. played match is 0-0. I have a ball on my side with and COM players are just stepping 3-4 meters away from my defender.

They dont even try to press or win the ball. I left the pad and Com is players are just waiting....

Thats bit stupid if some Burnley can take valuable points from big teams like that.

Nowdays many teams press high and with great force. I could take a pee and Manu team nicely waited me to get back with no action.

I also tried this against Barca and Barcelona as well seem to be happy with a draw against West Bromwich. Just waiting me to approach.

Hardest difficulty really????

Not very tactically wise, or realistic. Could this be fixed???
 

anonymadde

Registered User
I've now recognized that in order to get freekicks, you must use feints. That's when the referee blows the whistle in your favor. I must say that the game has grown on me. I like it more than i did before, but still, there are some issues that must be taken care of.

1: My teams AI is retarded. Balls are loose, and the AI just stands there without even trying to reach it. I cant control more than one player at a time, and because the L1 button doesn't always switch to the best placed player, it often happens that my controlled player is too far away, and the nearest AI-player stands there like a retard and let the opponent take control of the ball. I want my AI to fight for a loose ball when im controling another player. Because that's what real players do. They don't just stand there, the try to reach the ball with every thing they got.

The physical status: I'm playing with 4-3-3 formation. In every match, at least 2 of my strikers, my offensive midfielder and my wingbacks are completely out of stamina in the 60-65 minut. And i don't use the run button except when i have a lot of space to run in. This is ridiculous. Real players dont get exhausted each and every game. They get exhausted when they're playing multiple matches in a shirt period of time. Most substitutions that are made aren't made because the actual player is tired.

I have a talented 18 year old midfielder in y team, whom i want to play. Only problem, he's a defensive midfielder. I can't let him jump in a match, because all my strikers and wingbacks are exhausted, so i need to substitute them instead.

I wonder how Konami every year succeeds in to taking some stupid decision that ruins the game. last year the decision was to even release PES 14, the biggest joke i've ever seen. This year they decided that football players are smokíng, beerdrinking 50-year old truckdrivers. I just wonder why? How the hell is this a improvement?

Annd still i love the game... The pitch is yours Konami, however there are som weed that needs to be taken care of.
 

St Miguel

Registered User
My First Season in Master League is behind.


I play PES15 with PS4.



Gameplay feels quite realistic, dynamic and solid. Games are really unique and feeling is great. There is still few issues playing against COM.

These few stupdities should and also could be fixed with an update.


COM Lazy Pressing and poor defending

COM defends poorly fast paced runs. I have a few speedsters in my team and almost every time with a ball i can just run to opposite box. Computer doesnt even try to stop them with sliding tackle they rather watch me to run through than take a foul. That's why there is also no injuries in master league (Also no injuries in training) and very few fouls as well. I really dont understand why com is often so passive???

Even if com is losing its not pressing harder. COM is just waiting me to get to the opposition zone. If I stop with a ball on my zone COM stops as well. They seem to be happy with a losing. Then time runs out. Must be a glitch. The COM shouldn't certainly act that way! And i play with the hardest difficulty??? Not very realistic i think.

COM Breakaways

When on a breakaway COM almost every time Chips the ball over goalie. And Always perfectly. Not Just Messi, Everyone. Seems easier than it is. Thats the only goal pattern that seems to happen quite often.

These problems are just when playing against COM.

Poor Statistics

Basically i think ML database is still very thin.
Why there are no player or team histories. I used to play 10 year lasting careers. Nowdays the game seems to forget everything that has happened year ago when season ends. Could there be some statistics from past years. Does it take too much memory? When i played Pes 5 i could see my teams success from the past. And there was also some hall of fame player performance stats.

Prozone is the nowdays thing. So why PES 2015 (Greatest Football game on earth) lacks the stats. This might be hard to fix but should be taken care at least next years version. Wider stats data would make the whole career system much more authentic.

Still have to say im very happy that i chose PES before Fifa this year.
 

brownyyy

Registered User
I must say on the hole pes 15 has been a very good game however I do have some major and a few minor gripes that in my opinion need to be patched.

SPEED
I realise in FIFA Speed in broken however PES 15 in my opinion has shackled Fast players to much the idea of the double tap RB is stupid fast players are fast with and without the ball. I cannot count the amount of times a player like Raheem sterling has been disposed because his speed has been nullified. I realise that fast players are usually over powered however it is some player main attribute and taking it away is not the way to do it. If you want to counter it give it a penalty like not as good directional change so you cannot cruise through a team but do not make speed useless.

FULL MANUAL
This may just be me but Full manual settings seem to be very broken and the direction does not seem to be based on the direction the analog stick is facing for both shooting and passing. it may be more inconsistent than anything.

FINESSE SHOOTING
Is it me or does the RT make your player stop dead and make iot harder to place a shoot also this seems to change the shot into an assisted shot as you loose abit of the control ( sorta the opposite of what it supposed to do) Also all shot don't have to curl that really annoys me surely this should be based on how far down you squeeze the trigger for more freedom.

ANIMATIONS
GET RID OF THE STUPID BARGE ANIMATION it is impossible to choose to shrug of an opponent you either have to turn away from which ever way you are travelling or loose the ball. It also makes it impossible to take on the CPU without using skill moves which was I though at least a selling point of this game.
Make the animations a slave to the gameplay not the other way around like.
Getting tackled and your player stopping dead.
You cannot get out of the animation of you are being held of behind a player.
ETC

TACKLING
This is one of the weakest part of the game why is every tackle a lunge if you hold A it will lunch or the player will run straight past you. There is not speed between sprint and run so holding the play up does not work if you are touch tight.

KEEPERS
They are inconsistent and looking at replays shows that keepers let in easier saves the ones they keep out. Also bringing out your keeper is useless as on higher difficulties every CPU players has a perfect lob in their locker.

DIFFICULTY
NO FOOTBALL GAME GETS THIS BUT MAKE A GAME HARDER BY OTHER MEANS THAT ALLOWING THE CPU TEAM TO NOT BE BOUND BY THIER STATS.
Fellani cannot catch sterling slow players are slow fast players are fast
strong players are strong weak players are weak.
Opponent players cannot all have worldys all the time just to make it harder.
Simple facts are not followed on the cpu to add difficulty which beaks the game.

EDIT
Why can you make 4 outfield kits but on 1 keepers kit STUPID and you still cannot mix and match shirts shorts and socks. Why fans have been asking for the basic feature for years.
Why no numbers or special characters on the team banners again stupid.
Why is there only like 13 stadiums you do realise that there is a bunch of empty space on the disc there is NO reason you cannot just add either place holder stadiums that fans fan edit of allow us to build a stadium using pre made assets.

You need to realise that not having licenses is not a bad thing as it allows you to let fans go wild.
Fans have spent weeks making their favourite teams kits and modelling their faces put in the assets so they can edit more not less then you do not need to pay for licenses at all because the community will add all that for you like they always have.
Give people the keys and they will build whatever they want.
Make a website where you can download these things to the game and you will gain so many players.


COMMENTARY
Seriously why bother having it when it is this bad. save some money but just not having it in pes2016 if you arnt going to try.


I do really enjoy this game. It is good but it could be great with help from the community.
the ball is your court KONAMI lets see if you actually look at the forum
 

IronCity

Banned
I feel the ball miraculously finds a CPU player when I tackle the ball away from a CPU player much too often. Sometimes the ball will get there with an unbelievable angle just so it can be delivered. Was a big complaint of mine on EA FIFA and disappointed to see it here on PES (ps3).

Human player needs some option to go up for a header on a personal goal kick. CPU will win it every time, with a perfectly placed header to another CPU player for the quick counter. My player remains in a locked, bent over stance, while the CPU has full reign to jump over me.
 
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