PES 6 Suggestions
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Jolly Roger
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I agree here
I keep playing Chelsea and Arsenal in the qualifiers and then after I make it through I keep getting Juve.
GEMLORD said:
I keep playing Chelsea and Arsenal in the qualifiers and then after I make it through I keep getting Juve.
Harry-Kewell
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Better (lifelike) pitches. 90% of them (in PES5) are crap!
Pro_Ev_King
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dragonfly said:
aahhh hate that fucking pitch aswell mate,a bit sore for the eye's lol
S-D-P
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i think the finishing animation is fantastic and very realistic, although at times some of the finishing does look silly. Like many people have already said there should be more realistic transfers in the master league and a more detailed master league would be better such as more of a management side to the game.paraic64 said:
best_at_pes
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Earings were in pro 4, no? I'm sure Adriano had a stud in his left ear because i used to see it playing it online on PC.cadey said:
There still are ear-rings in PES5 I thought.
One of the key suggestions, as far as I'm concerned, is to widen the scope of PES6. At the end of the day, in terms of data,m it shouldn;t be too difficult to incldue and succesfully implement at least the next tier down for the countries already represented. This would make Master league a lot better too. Even if the kits aren't licensed, I'd appreciate a championship as well as a premiership, if you get me. I know it would mean more player names, but fuck it, do it on 2 DVDs and make me install more. I don't care. As I say, if you just include more teams by having player lists, team names and kit colours, the amount of data required is minimal. I'm not too fussed by licensed kits - its nice, but hey, I'm a PC user and always get a patch so its no problem. Even if not, option files help a lot. But FIFA does have a clear advantage in this area, and I dont see why Konami could not do this - even all the way down to league two, for example - or if not, as I say, the top two tiers and then more teams from across Europe so that all in the UEFA cup and Champions league are represented.
One of the key suggestions, as far as I'm concerned, is to widen the scope of PES6. At the end of the day, in terms of data,m it shouldn;t be too difficult to incldue and succesfully implement at least the next tier down for the countries already represented. This would make Master league a lot better too. Even if the kits aren't licensed, I'd appreciate a championship as well as a premiership, if you get me. I know it would mean more player names, but fuck it, do it on 2 DVDs and make me install more. I don't care. As I say, if you just include more teams by having player lists, team names and kit colours, the amount of data required is minimal. I'm not too fussed by licensed kits - its nice, but hey, I'm a PC user and always get a patch so its no problem. Even if not, option files help a lot. But FIFA does have a clear advantage in this area, and I dont see why Konami could not do this - even all the way down to league two, for example - or if not, as I say, the top two tiers and then more teams from across Europe so that all in the UEFA cup and Champions league are represented.
And I have to say I think loads of the suggestions on here are fucking stupid.
Photo realisitic graphics? I think they already try, for gods sake, and of course they'll try to improve it. DUH.
Power bar for penalties
Power bar for ground passes
Indoor pitch like in FIFA 98 RTWC
All of the above are stupid. Who cares? There is a kind of power thing for ground passes already, and as for penalties, why bother? At the end of the day, it mostly comes down to the keeper guessing right, which is the case in real life too. Any more than that is a trivial affair, and hardly a neccessary improvement right now.
The obsession with licensing is stupid too. We all know why the premiership doesnt get licensed, its because they made a stupid licensing deal with EA. Again, I'm sure konami try and will do their best, but with option files and patches available for most, its not a major issue.
And why would you want to play as an international side in master league? Stupid.
Again with the more old-skool teams. Fine, but why bother, really? Its nothing really worth the fuss. The same applies with more old school players to choose from. fair enough for it to be something youd like to see, but surely there are much more important things?
The commentary I agree with - could be a lot better, but I still personally feel its not the be all of a football game.
3D crowd is another silly suggestion. it would be nice, but its not that easy to do, and its not really too important. I tend to watch the game, not the crowd.
Who really puts that much stock in official boots and so on?
walking away or arguing with the ref etc.. well.. hm. Kind of a ncie idea, but I think it should be more.. random, as managers cant control their plauyers when they do that. So players with low mentality (or maybe a new discipline stat) will occasionally kick up a fuss and get bookd for it or something. Then you might get pissed off with them and not play them!!
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I dont mean to just moan at people, but I really feel people get priorities wrong. Its fair enough to want little new things, but I really feel some things are much more worth the effort than others.
So yes.. further than my previous post.. a few suggestions.
More international teams and club teams woud make it a more complete experience.
More licenses if readily available.
Better commentary - concentrating on sensible reactions, less bugs and less stupid comments, rather than just adding more crap into the not-so-great system.
Players who retire for good in master league - maybe current young reserve players could generate next, followed by random names. That'd be fair enough because we don't know who will be around in 6 years as new players.
Some tweaks to animations and cut scenes as usual would be good, so yeah - some more realism in celebrations. Its not a key area, but if they have it, they might as well improve it.
I think a bit of randomisation in animations would be nice - so that if two players collide, they don't both fall in exactly the same way at the same time - so maybe we have 5 or so different animations for each one, and the same one cant play at the same time - so they all link in with the original start point but pan out differently. This would look a lot better.
Tweaking the refereeing is of course a problematic but fairly important one for the gameplay - same with the slightly bizarre offsides.
The presentation isnt that important to me, as its better as it is than it was before, but yes, certainly it could do with some work.
If we're going to be fussy about kits and so on, I'd like to see third kits. Shouldn't be a mor issue to add them as far as I can see. It's just a matter fo not being bothered if it doesn't happen, but to be fair, its not a priority.
Photo realisitic graphics? I think they already try, for gods sake, and of course they'll try to improve it. DUH.
Power bar for penalties
Power bar for ground passes
Indoor pitch like in FIFA 98 RTWC
All of the above are stupid. Who cares? There is a kind of power thing for ground passes already, and as for penalties, why bother? At the end of the day, it mostly comes down to the keeper guessing right, which is the case in real life too. Any more than that is a trivial affair, and hardly a neccessary improvement right now.
The obsession with licensing is stupid too. We all know why the premiership doesnt get licensed, its because they made a stupid licensing deal with EA. Again, I'm sure konami try and will do their best, but with option files and patches available for most, its not a major issue.
And why would you want to play as an international side in master league? Stupid.
Again with the more old-skool teams. Fine, but why bother, really? Its nothing really worth the fuss. The same applies with more old school players to choose from. fair enough for it to be something youd like to see, but surely there are much more important things?
The commentary I agree with - could be a lot better, but I still personally feel its not the be all of a football game.
3D crowd is another silly suggestion. it would be nice, but its not that easy to do, and its not really too important. I tend to watch the game, not the crowd.
Who really puts that much stock in official boots and so on?
walking away or arguing with the ref etc.. well.. hm. Kind of a ncie idea, but I think it should be more.. random, as managers cant control their plauyers when they do that. So players with low mentality (or maybe a new discipline stat) will occasionally kick up a fuss and get bookd for it or something. Then you might get pissed off with them and not play them!!
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I dont mean to just moan at people, but I really feel people get priorities wrong. Its fair enough to want little new things, but I really feel some things are much more worth the effort than others.
So yes.. further than my previous post.. a few suggestions.
More international teams and club teams woud make it a more complete experience.
More licenses if readily available.
Better commentary - concentrating on sensible reactions, less bugs and less stupid comments, rather than just adding more crap into the not-so-great system.
Players who retire for good in master league - maybe current young reserve players could generate next, followed by random names. That'd be fair enough because we don't know who will be around in 6 years as new players.
Some tweaks to animations and cut scenes as usual would be good, so yeah - some more realism in celebrations. Its not a key area, but if they have it, they might as well improve it.
I think a bit of randomisation in animations would be nice - so that if two players collide, they don't both fall in exactly the same way at the same time - so maybe we have 5 or so different animations for each one, and the same one cant play at the same time - so they all link in with the original start point but pan out differently. This would look a lot better.
Tweaking the refereeing is of course a problematic but fairly important one for the gameplay - same with the slightly bizarre offsides.
The presentation isnt that important to me, as its better as it is than it was before, but yes, certainly it could do with some work.
If we're going to be fussy about kits and so on, I'd like to see third kits. Shouldn't be a mor issue to add them as far as I can see. It's just a matter fo not being bothered if it doesn't happen, but to be fair, its not a priority.
thats the kind of thing I mean though Greeny. It has a place, but in almost any football match, how much are these things used? Admittedly a very few players use flair in the middle of games on a fairly regular basis, but its not usually a trademark "move", more incredible awareness and ball control. There's no real way to implement that effectively! Even then, very few players do this - most of the time, good football is about doing the basics very well indeed! I think the basic dynamics of the game are things that should be concentrated on, not arcadey / fifa style "special moves"...
Ko_nami
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rkinder said:
Completely agree.
The regeneration thing in the Master League in both PES4 and 5 is completely unrealistic in my opinion.
Konami should adopt the same strategy as SIgames used to for the Champ Manager/Football Manager games.
What would happen in the old Champ Manager games is, a player such as Rivaldo would reach a certain age (say 35) and retires. He would return in the game (2 seasons later) as a 16 year old with a different name but with the same mental attributes, same nationality and the same potential as the original Rivaldo.
Konami should do something similiar for the Master League in PES6 in my opinion.
greeny
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oh no I would not want to go that far with every one having super moves it would get very boaring very quickley.But just a few more trade mark moves like you have the bergkamp turn now and the robana shot great moves that you have to master to pull off I would not want to go over the top and lose the realism pro evo is famous for.rkinder said:
Fair enough then - but I'd put them in as complicated moves to execute and moves that unless puled off at exactly the right time and in the right place will go wrong.. like.. moves that quite a few players can try, but that most fuck up most of the time, and a few, like Bergkamp with that turn, will be able to do it more than most. As I said, if you watch a game, this stuff plays very little role - but I'm glad you agree the importance is the realism.
chrisadr
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This has probably been mentioned before but Im getting a little tired of players getting injured and then limping off the field (when subbed) the same way every time. The injuries could sure use a bit more variety I think. Maybe have ankle, knee, thigh, and head injuries.
Its not really a big deal but since this post is for PES 6 ideas, I thought I might as well throw it out there.
Its not really a big deal but since this post is for PES 6 ideas, I thought I might as well throw it out there.