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Pro Evo World of Soccer?

cheezy

Registered User
i don't know if anyone remembers SWOS, aka Sensible World Of Soccer? although the graphics sucked big time (i'm talking a '95 amiga game based on a '93 engine) the fast paced but still very realistic gameplay was really fun. but what made the game really great was the humongous database with +20.000 players from all possible clubs & leagues all around the world (mostly europe though), from iceland to albania, AND the possibility to be both manager of your team (buying and selling players) and actually playing ball yourself!!!

what i'm trying to say is this:

what PES/WE needs to become the greatest computer game of all time is not a new load of petty details like shirts getting dirtier over a game or fancier bench graphics, but this: A COMBINATION OF CLUB MANAGEMENT OPTIONS AND PES GAMEPLAY + A HUGE CLUB/PLAYER DATABASE !!!

the fun of taking a team from the english 3rd division into the champions league over the years, while building up your club AND actually playing your own games is really tremendous...

you don't need a management system as complex as e.g. championship manager, but a decent slightly simplified engine that allows you to buy and sell players from clubs all over the world and to get your budget going

so here is a list of some suggestions for my dream version of PES:

1. improved database with entire leagues & teams (if the licenses are too expensive, use fake names that can be edited) and more national squads. also the lower divisions of the major leagues (england, spain, italy, germany, france...) should be playable! a good search engine would come in handy when you're dealing with a large player database and looking for a good transfer

2. improved editor with the possibility of creating new players, teams and possibility to design new leagues

3. enhanced management options such as buying/selling players, stadium improvement, youth squad training, sponsoring, scouting...

4. new 'interactive' stadium graphics that show the stadium you have built yourself, with visual attendance (eg pre season friendly with almost empty stands and top league matches at full capacity)

5. possibility to get sacked as a player/manager and/or change teams during the game (eg job offers when you're playing good, warnings from the chairman when you're making a mess of it)

...

there are plenty more ideas where this came from, but i'll give it a rest here :)

is there any chance someone at KCET could be reading this???

keep up the great work!!!



...forgive me, i had to get this off my chest
 

Zygalski

Administrator
We'd all like those things to happen.
But they would have to put a lot of effort into it, as well as a lot of money, which they are not fans of.

Can you imagine how many fake player faces and names they'd have to make up, along with the commentary for them?

We can be hopeful and positive though!
 

cheezy

Registered User
if they would at least provide us with a good editor which allows us to create players, teams and leagues, we'd be able to achieve some of it ourselves...
 

Robinho

Registered User
more spaces for club teams that we could even go to the trouble of creating, instead of having to edit/remove a club fully in order to have a new 1 that we actually want. ie hamburg are awful ive never played with them, so they got booted for auxerre
 

Zygalski

Administrator
How would it work if you want to play your master league team (with one hamburg player you bought) against someone else's where there is no hamburg?

Too much editing and it has to stay a one player game.

There should be more universal and improved editor.
 

Robinho

Registered User
I would never buy a Hamburg player 'cos they're all shit :p

nah i know what you're saying but i'm happy it being a 1-player game. when i play against my mates we just play with club/national teams
 

hitmanuk2k

The Boss
and yes.... the 2,000th post! lol, sorry.... just a bit pleased with how the forums are developing so quickly :)
 

MaX_NormaL

Registered User
SWOS was brilliant, wish I still had me old Amiga now.:(

Wouldn't mind waiting longer fr them to implement any of that stuff in the new game, maybe PES4 though.;)
 

Zygalski

Administrator
You could probably play it on your PC with an Amiga emulator is you have the disks (or somehow download them).
 

NIBOD

Registered User
couldn't agree more Cheezy,SWOS was a great game,the best until the evolution series came along.The points you made would surely make this the greatest fotty game ever made
 

mikeom1

Registered User
It is indeed evertonarelush, they should have emphasised the need to own an original copy of the game :)
 

Zygalski

Administrator
I bought 2 or 3 versions of SWOS back in the olden Amiga days.
I just mentioned that they were available for free somewhere but I didn't know where so I didn't say.

It was a classy game but sometimes you would lost money due to gate receipts for no apparent reason
(Win the premiership, Champion's League, FA Cup and League Cup having won Every match and still lose money?! :rolleyes: )
 

Lisbon67Seville03

Registered User
does anyone remember the SWOS for PC with the scratchy voiced guy doing commentary and all he would ever do was shout "REFEREE!" man, good times. i remember how good man utd were in SWOS for amiga tho, i would always crush my dad as them.
 

Nifty1Pound50

Insert user title here
SWOS is indeed a brilliant game. Probably better than Championship Manager, if you take into account when it came out etc.

The reason PES will never be so big database-wise, is because it's a console game. CD's are limited. On the PC it's doable because there's all this extraction and zipping up business, and a PC has all this memory where you install to, and it has RAM for file-swapping, etc.

PS2's don't do all of this on such a great scale. PES2 (and probably the sequels to it) all do what they're supposed to do - let you play football. The fact is, the perfect football game would be a cross between CM (Championship Manager) and PES2. The fact that the level of detail from each could not be taken makes this impossible.

If only it were though...

(agreed about the ability to edit and ADD - as opposed to replacing - data)
 
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