Professional Vs Top Player

[Stormrider]

Shouldn't it be 4* and 5* ?

I mean

Beginner *
Amateur **
Regular ***
Professional ****
Top Player *****

Was talkin bout ps2 versions. There was the same debate about which was harder 5* or 6*

 

[fideco]

I find "regular" level much more easy than 2009, because the pressure of the opposing defense is not realistic (too much low..)
Usually i play "professional" (one step below the maximum), but as said i'm not satisfied about AI gameplay building (lack of fair,no long range passing, no long range shots, no troughpasses).

 

[luikang]

Was talkin bout ps2 versions. There was the same debate about which was harder 5* or 6*

Ah ok, didn't know. :blush:

 

[Stormrider]

A big disappointment.
In both levels the AI gameplay bulding is poor and predictable (lack of fair..and too many crosses in the box..)
I have never seen a cool AI troughpass for example...
The defence phase instead is very good and balanced.
Another issue i noticed:
AI barely try a long shot range and often is inclined to pass the ball despite having spaces for good shooting opportunities.
This is especially irritating when the AI player has a high shot power and tec rating.
I hope this issue swill be addressed in final version..
Cheers

In the WE demo Gerrard, Henry, and Ibra are definitely not shy outside the box on Top Player and Super Star . In my eyes the CPU passing is mesmerizing on Super Star. Lots of 1-2s, neat lil passes into space, and choosing the right moments to cross. The Regular level also seems harder cuz they usually score on me, sometimes even twice but they never do in the Pes demo.

 

[Jonny16]

Yea ive noticed that when the AI are on the break or have a simple route to goal against you, they will do something weird or stupid so it looks like they are purposefully trying not to score or something!

Kinda frustrating when the aim of the game itself is to beat the other team by scoring!

 

[john4]

yeh, Ibra has had a few long range shots against me, nothing too devastating though. they sometimes shoot after a cleared coss which is nice to see, and in the WE demo we can actually hit it first time from a cleared cross, something we could not do in 09. anyways i think the AI is the best it has ever been in terms of playing like who ever is on the ball. When Babel gets subbed on he always trys to beat a player or two, i think he is certainly one for the ML team as he is quality but underrated! and no sane manager should play him left midefield! anyways its not the AI that dissapoints me, although on superstar there has been occasions where italy havent even had a shot against me till like the 80th minute. (guess im awesome or something!?)

 

[milly_willy]

I liked the stars. was kinda gutted when they took them out. I have the same feeling from the WE demo. I find it far more easier on Super Star mode, than on Top Player.

 

[Jonny16]

Yea i think in the WE demo (i downloaded it and its awesome!) the superstar difficulty is really good, Messi literally tore my defence apart and i didnt feel like the computer "cheated" to get a goal. Normally i feel like the computer score "cheap" goals and it got to me a lot!

 

[fideco]

Yea i think in the WE demo (i downloaded it and its awesome!) the superstar difficulty is really good, Messi literally tore my defence apart and i didnt feel like the computer "cheated" to get a goal. Normally i feel like the computer score "cheap" goals and it got to me a lot!

But the way to judge the AI should not be at superstar level
where AI attributes are boosted..
Professional level is imo the most appropriate...

 

[Jonny16]

But the way to judge the AI should not be at superstar level
where AI attributes are boosted..
Professional level is imo the most appropriate...

maybe but i just feel at that level the AI isnt actually trying to play football at all, they are just trying to stop you playing football, its like a struggle rather than an enjoyment.

 

[teddybear72]

its probably psycological and you try that bit harder?

 

[fideco]

You are right. This is one of the main weaknesses of AI and a sign of a unbalanced gameplay.
Pes 2010 has a good defense phase but fails to build different offensive action. They look all done in the same way (even if the teams are different) and do not vary almost never....
Playing at higher level than professional i see only more speed and precision in AI passes (not realistic). The lack of fair remains.

 

[shaun7]

^On Top player I noticed that Barcelona atttacks the same way as in reality.
Xavi with long passes to messi and he dribbles.
I think that the attacking AI should be better though.

 

[Jonny16]

If i were to say to everyone here, "Oh the computer has gone into superhuman mode!!!", would anyone know what i am on about?

 

[Rasmus]

^ Not me