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Seabass talks ml online, & stadium editor

LiL MeSsI

LiL MeSsI

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Thanks for that mate :) I was happy to take a look at the Stadium Editor and get good and confident comments from Seabass.. Hopefully it will come through as the leading Football game for the first time in this "Next-Gen" period "

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wipsnadepoo

wipsnadepoo

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Why is it that only PS3 & PC get to use audio files for team names & leagues... fark me what a joke! Stadium editor looks frikken flash though!
 
James_dean

James_dean

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The MLO looks really good. I´m not a fan of the online soccer gaming as I usually brake my keyboard when I lose ;) nah kidding. Can´t wait for the videos from the beta test and gamescon :) And I must say it´s really promising that there will be a online beta, for me it´s a sign that they have fixed the lag issues but if there´s the same amount of lag in the beta as in their last Pes games they will lose alot of money.
 
The Eristic

The Eristic

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So players are stocks, basically. Don't like it, makes it more difficult to build a team that is both unique AND quality. Dilutes the experience on both ends. :^(
 
shaun7

shaun7

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^I disagree. More challenge is a welcome and a bonus because like in real life. Get good results, which in terms mean more money, and then you can invest. But fail results, and you won't be able to get good players.
If there was a system where anyone can pick out a team, anyone would be Chelsea, Man utd, barcelona, real madrid...... and that would suck.
 
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Gerad

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I dont really like the transfer part, i just like the possibility of promotion, relism, euorpa league, fa cup football and champions league football

Then the whole stadium creator thing, i think im gonna cream myself
 
The Eristic

The Eristic

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shaun7 said:
^I disagree. More challenge is a welcome and a bonus because like in real life. Get good results, which in terms mean more money, and then you can invest. But fail results, and you won't be able to get good players.
If there was a system where anyone can pick out a team, anyone would be Chelsea, Man utd, barcelona, real madrid...... and that would suck.
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I'm not really talking about the payouts for success and failure. I just don't like the fact that everybody can purchase the exact same players. It actually makes the gameplay less challenging and interesting, because you know 90% of people will have (or at least be trying to acquire) the same 30 players within a couple weeks. It's not more difficult in a skill-based sense, but more tedious and potentially frustrating, in a "Jesus, I have to play against Rooney/Messi/Ronaldo/Torres/Drogba/Gerrard/Terry/Julio Cesar again?" way.

There should be, imo, one instance of each team and player per MLO server, which could be initially allotted in any number of ways. The current system accounts for many more players simultaneously, but is far less realistic and will suffer from the same balance and variety problems as regular VS matches (plus, given how empty Legends is much of the time, will MLO really need to be so huge and unrestricted? The average PES online player isn't dedicated to anything other than running down the wing with Messi and cutting it back). Now, if MLO can be played in private Communities, it would be fine, as the participants would be able to work out issues beforehand via competition stipulations.
 
heatuk10

heatuk10

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Yeah I think there should be 1 Rooney, 1 Messi etc per league and the team you get selected to you is just pot luck really or maybe better players start with weaker teams than the poorer players to even the game out!
 
shaun7

shaun7

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The Eristic said:
I'm not really talking about the payouts for success and failure. I just don't like the fact that everybody can purchase the exact same players. It actually makes the gameplay less challenging and interesting, because you know 90% of people will have (or at least be trying to acquire) the same 30 players within a couple weeks. It's not more difficult in a skill-based sense, but more tedious and potentially frustrating, in a "Jesus, I have to play against Rooney/Messi/Ronaldo/Torres/Drogba/Gerrard/Terry/Julio Cesar again?" way.

There should be, imo, one instance of each team and player per MLO server, which could be initially allotted in any number of ways. The current system accounts for many more players simultaneously, but is far less realistic and will suffer from the same balance and variety problems as regular VS matches (plus, given how empty Legends is much of the time, will MLO really need to be so huge and unrestricted? The average PES online player isn't dedicated to anything other than running down the wing with Messi and cutting it back). Now, if MLO can be played in private Communities, it would be fine, as the participants would be able to work out issues beforehand via competition stipulations.
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But if they lose, they won't be able to keep them. And besides, their wages will be really high, so you won't be able to keep all those players.
If the game will be really difficult in terms of keeping all the stars, then it's fine. But in the end, I think it will be difficult to keep on winning forever so at some point, you're gonna have to sell your stars. Seabass, made a point clear. IT'S BETTER TO RAISE YOUR OWN STARS AND BUY PROMISING YOUG PLAYERS INSTEAD OF BUYING THE WELL KNOWN ONES BECAUSE THEY'RE CHEAPER AND EASIER TO KEEP. ;) So, if the game will be difficult for you to keep all those stars, then it's fine. But if it will be easy, then there will be a problem.
Also, I don't think it's fair that only 1 man in a league could play with messi because that would become a first come first serve type of mode.


ALSO, THE OTHER THINGS YOU MENTIONED WERE GAMEPLAY ISSUES. If and I mean IF they are fixed, and you can defend well like in pes 6 and 5, then there won't be much of a problem with people abusing of the R1 button.:cool: I hope it's fixed though.
 
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Gerad

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shaun7 said:
IT'S BETTER TO RAISE YOUR OWN STARS AND BUY PROMISING YOUG PLAYERS INSTEAD OF BUYING THE WELL KNOWN ONES BECAUSE THEY'RE CHEAPER AND EASIER TO KEEP. ;)
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Yes

I remember playing in master league with manchester united and i had alan smith, i tried to sell him but he wouldn't go, then a few seasons later, hes world class and almost as good as rooney and ronaldo
 
The Eristic

The Eristic

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shaun7 said:
IT'S BETTER TO RAISE YOUR OWN STARS AND BUY PROMISING YOUG PLAYERS INSTEAD OF BUYING THE WELL KNOWN ONES BECAUSE THEY'RE CHEAPER AND EASIER TO KEEP. ;)
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You don't need to shout. I know that it's better to find hidden gems for cheap. I've never bought a "superstar" in all the years I've been playing ML. I spend hours searching for free transfers, kids in the last year of their contracts and under a certain salary cap. However, that's not the way the many other people play (or want to play), and it wouldn't surprise me if a load of people don't bother with it if the system won't allow them to buy and keep their heroes. Keep in mind, I'm in the US, so the number of PES players is tiny compared to Europe and Asia, and most of them don't know much about the sport beyond a superficial level.
 
shaun7

shaun7

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^I write in caps NOT TO SHOUT, BUT TO EMPHASIZE. :)
BTW, we need to see MLO in action before we make judgements. I think that's the safe approach and most fair I believe.
 
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