So whats the reason that KONAMI is doing such a bad job?

[MysteryMan]

With PES 2008 and also PES 2009 , I mean seriously its not the 90's anymore , its next generation gaming , they should make VAST improvements yet they managed to make a even worse game with PES 08 and now with 09 improved it ever so slightly.
Lets forget about the huge AI problems .... fine lets forget about horrible animations and rest of the problems , why can't they just add simple things like more stadiums , more stats , more unique dribbles , shots and movements of players like for example Nba 2k9 which has like 100 different animations for player shots , movement , dribbles etc.. and trully makes players unique...
Why can't they at least add as simple as both line ups for teams at the start of the match and then the pitch and formations of both teams? I mean come on ... this is completely ridicilous , is this a team made of kids or something? I seriously don't get it , are they completely non creative or what? If they are not capable of fixing huge bugs and problems why don't they at least add little things that would make a big difference and show that they are making an effort? Seriously , whats the deal?

 

[Gato]

They trying to get the maximum profit, with a minimal invest. That's all. Business stuff.

 

[iamcanadianeh]

They trying to get the maximum profit, with a minimal invest. That's all. Business stuff.

I would think it's more likely due to techincal difficulties with going next-gen. It clearly hasn't been easy for them.

:no:

 

[dan80]

or maybe sebass needs to be sacked

 

[iamcanadianeh]

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, and comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds, who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."

-- Theodore Roosevelt

 

[Can-o-Mark]

"This kinda sucks."

-- Me

 

[Dale C.]

With PES 2008 and also PES 2009 , I mean seriously its not the 90's anymore , its next generation gaming , they should make VAST improvements yet they managed to make a even worse game with PES 08 and now with 09 improved it ever so slightly.
Lets forget about the huge AI problems .... fine lets forget about horrible animations and rest of the problems , why can't they just add simple things like more stadiums , more stats , more unique dribbles , shots and movements of players like for example Nba 2k9 which has like 100 different animations for player shots , movement , dribbles etc.. and trully makes players unique...
Why can't they at least add as simple as both line ups for teams at the start of the match and then the pitch and formations of both teams? I mean come on ... this is completely ridicilous , is this a team made of kids or something? I seriously don't get it , are they completely non creative or what? If they are not capable of fixing huge bugs and problems why don't they at least add little things that would make a big difference and show that they are making an effort? Seriously , whats the deal?

Fuck all that shit, did you just compare an NBA game with a football game? :shocking:

 

[jenicek68]

ROME rised and falled few times.. USA raised and falling now.. EUROPE raised and falling, China used to be most advanced nation in the World, than falled, than raised again and falling now.. , Egypt used to be most advanced nation in the world.. Like with everything.. Where is no bottom, there is no Top, where is white, there must be black.. People just get used to nice improvements from PES and then konami make biggest mistake they could and did PES 08.. Now PES 09 is big improvement, but people just caunts that PES 08 never came and looks back for PES 6 overlooking how PES 09 advanced since last time..

 

[Usul]

Great Empires and gaming companies, are pretty fucking far from being comparable, on any level.

pategato is right. They are merely cheap and incompetent bastards, always have been.

The simplest thing that they could have always done flawlessly, without much expense, is their option files, and they have always been flawed.

The Japanese people have always been renowned for trying to achieve perfection in almost every aspect of life, but the ancestors of these fools are stirring in their graves as i type this.

 

[RN50]

To be Fair Pro Evo 09 is a Vast Improvment to Pro Evo 08. If they make an improvement as much as 08-09 for 10 then it will be 1 hell of a game.

It just these tiny things that piss me off about the game, ie Stats being well off, Need More Stadiums.

Oh an a better Master League!

 

[Hunter]

If they're incapable of making an online game in the year 2008 then it's clearly game over for Konami. They managed it perfectly for PES6, but for PES08 and PES09 they have failed badly online - I think this shows exactly how much the series is disintegrating.

 

[KingPen]

Fuck all that shit, did you just compare an NBA game with a football game? :shocking:

Its a good comparison... as a matter of fact its that sort of comparison that has seen fans of football gaming clamoring for the 2k team to make a soccer game.

 

[Baddar]

Closed.

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