bluechampion
Registered User
After many months of not playing WE/PES 2011, I picked it up recently. My God, it’s so bad. I don’t even know how I managed to play this game before. I had also made several attempts to improve the game through player and tactic edits. Fair to say, I don’t think I ever solved the problem.
But this time though, I had to get this working. I know that this great football season is coming to an end in a few weeks and I need to have my WE/PES in place.
I know my problems with WE/PES 2011 and I have found my solutions. You can call me whatever - crazy, lunatic, idiot - whatever. These solutions work for me. If you haven’t tried, don’t run me down or my ideas. If you have tried and didn’t improve your experience considerably, please do elaborate. Probably, we can come up with something better through our discussions. Here we go!
My problems with Winning Eleven 2011 (or PES 2011).
1. The pitch looks smallish
2. The animations are clunky
3. The game moves faster than the real game
4. There are no midfield battles
Here is my solution:
1. Reduce the height of all players by 20 cms
2. Reduce the top speed for all by 10 points
3. Reduce the short passing speed for all by 10 points (min 60)
I know what you’re thinking. This looks so inorganic and unscientific and stupid. Firstly, you might wonder what does height have to do with fluid play. Secondly, you might think that the reduction is height is disproportionate.
First up, the height of each player (in WE/PES) has a big effect on his animation cycle. In Pro Evo, try handling two players who have the exact same stats with one being 185 cms and the other being 155 cms. When you’re controlling these two players, you’d realise that the animations of the 155 player are very smooth in comparison.
A 20 cms reduction on a short player would have a bigger effect than on a taller player. You’re right but in the absence of a proper PS3 option file editor, we need to do the quick and dirty to get what we want.
The reduction in height actually makes the pitch look bigger and also the wide cam much much better. The biggest benefit is that the animations now look smoother. Hope you can see the logic. With longer limbs, the time it takes to complete the animation cycle is more and with shorter limbs, its quicker and smoother. This is quite normal in real life football too. The taller the players are the clumsy their movements look.
Before you slate this idea, pick any two teams and make these changes. This would take about 5-10 minutes of effort. If you too realise that this has improved the game tremendously, you can then extend this for more teams. I have now done this for the top four/six teams in the English, Italian and Spanish leagues.
Tactics Update: For all the teams, I had also set the build-up play as ‘defensive’ (6 or less) and also the defensive line as ‘deep’ (6 or less). Now the game flows like a proper football game. There is build-up play. There are midfield battles. Now Winning Eleven looks so good, so real that my desire for the game is well and truly back!
But this time though, I had to get this working. I know that this great football season is coming to an end in a few weeks and I need to have my WE/PES in place.
I know my problems with WE/PES 2011 and I have found my solutions. You can call me whatever - crazy, lunatic, idiot - whatever. These solutions work for me. If you haven’t tried, don’t run me down or my ideas. If you have tried and didn’t improve your experience considerably, please do elaborate. Probably, we can come up with something better through our discussions. Here we go!
My problems with Winning Eleven 2011 (or PES 2011).
1. The pitch looks smallish
2. The animations are clunky
3. The game moves faster than the real game
4. There are no midfield battles
Here is my solution:
1. Reduce the height of all players by 20 cms
2. Reduce the top speed for all by 10 points
3. Reduce the short passing speed for all by 10 points (min 60)
I know what you’re thinking. This looks so inorganic and unscientific and stupid. Firstly, you might wonder what does height have to do with fluid play. Secondly, you might think that the reduction is height is disproportionate.
First up, the height of each player (in WE/PES) has a big effect on his animation cycle. In Pro Evo, try handling two players who have the exact same stats with one being 185 cms and the other being 155 cms. When you’re controlling these two players, you’d realise that the animations of the 155 player are very smooth in comparison.
A 20 cms reduction on a short player would have a bigger effect than on a taller player. You’re right but in the absence of a proper PS3 option file editor, we need to do the quick and dirty to get what we want.
The reduction in height actually makes the pitch look bigger and also the wide cam much much better. The biggest benefit is that the animations now look smoother. Hope you can see the logic. With longer limbs, the time it takes to complete the animation cycle is more and with shorter limbs, its quicker and smoother. This is quite normal in real life football too. The taller the players are the clumsy their movements look.
Before you slate this idea, pick any two teams and make these changes. This would take about 5-10 minutes of effort. If you too realise that this has improved the game tremendously, you can then extend this for more teams. I have now done this for the top four/six teams in the English, Italian and Spanish leagues.
Tactics Update: For all the teams, I had also set the build-up play as ‘defensive’ (6 or less) and also the defensive line as ‘deep’ (6 or less). Now the game flows like a proper football game. There is build-up play. There are midfield battles. Now Winning Eleven looks so good, so real that my desire for the game is well and truly back!
