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Some issues can be fixed with stat change, some not.

MysteryMan

Registered User
Well I was playing around with the editor and I edited some stats in this 2nd demo.

Mainly I edited 2 teams : Bayern and Inter in my case

What I did was I edited the players to make them more realistic based on real life so I lowered shooting acc since everyone's aim was supernatural good, I lowered all the passings because passes were superhuman good too ( even with not so good passers ), I lowered dribble acc and dribble speed substantially ( specially for defenders ), lowered attack and defence stats a bit aswell, and some other stats a bit aswell.

The end result is that players feel alot more realistic, defenders no longer have the ball glued to their feet, all midfielders no longer can pass Xavi like passes and attackers no longer have superhuman shooting acc where 99% of the shots go on goal.

Editing stats therefor fixes some issues and im sure PSD will fix it properly if not we can always edit them ourselfs, but there are still some issues left that the stat changes can't fix.

-Goalkeepers still suck, its laughable how much they still suck actually.

-Players still run straight when you make a through pass no matter whats happening around them they will keep running ( even if the opposition will intercept the pass they will keep running until it happens ).

-Players freezing sometimes, sometimes when you have set pieces or when the opponent GK has the ball your players can't sprint ( where is the freedom KONAMI promised us? Pes 2012 is as much assisted and unfree as 2011 is ).

-Reverse catch up bug where when the attacker goes past your defence you CAN not catch him no matter what is still here... not sure how to fix this with stats even lowering dribble acc doesn't help it seems like its a similar story as the old catch up bug from 2011 where no matter what stats the game forces you and your players can't run faster than the attacker does.

-Sometimes you will pass the ball to the player between your target even if you ramp up the power to the max

-Cursor switching still seems akward to me?

And there are alot more minor things but these are my main gripes that need immidiate attention.

KONAMI is incompetent as far as im concerned, after years and years and after getting feedback from the fans , FEEDBACK on EXACTLY whats wrong they are still incapable of fixing those problems.

I just hope jenkey can fix some of these problems at least and the others are fixed by stat changes so that we at least have a decent enough game worth playing.
 

coolio_jack

Registered User
Stats change doesnt solve anything, the whole point of PES is playing it against other humans, whether its online, going for pes session to your friends house or playing some offline tournaments.

And in all of that default settings and stats are used.
 

MysteryMan

Registered User
Stats change doesnt solve anything, the whole point of PES is playing it against other humans, whether its online, going for pes session to your friends house or playing some offline tournaments.

And in all of that default settings and stats are used.

Yeah it doesn't solve it for online but it does solve it for offline and thats a big part of the game, I play offline quite alot, ML, BL etc. Its at least something..
 

DIECI

Registered User
Stats change doesnt solve anything, the whole point of PES is playing it against other humans, whether its online, going for pes session to your friends house or playing some offline tournaments.

And in all of that default settings and stats are used.

ya nothing beats playing a human, especially your friend who's sitting next to you on the couch and waching him go crazy when you beat him hahah!
 

skickahit10

Registered User
Well I was playing around with the editor and I edited some stats in this 2nd demo.

Mainly I edited 2 teams : Bayern and Inter in my case

What I did was I edited the players to make them more realistic based on real life so I lowered shooting acc since everyone's aim was supernatural good, I lowered all the passings because passes were superhuman good too ( even with not so good passers ), I lowered dribble acc and dribble speed substantially ( specially for defenders ), lowered attack and defence stats a bit aswell, and some other stats a bit aswell.

The end result is that players feel alot more realistic, defenders no longer have the ball glued to their feet, all midfielders no longer can pass Xavi like passes and attackers no longer have superhuman shooting acc where 99% of the shots go on goal.

Editing stats therefor fixes some issues and im sure PSD will fix it properly if not we can always edit them ourselfs, but there are still some issues left that the stat changes can't fix.

-Goalkeepers still suck, its laughable how much they still suck actually.

-Players still run straight when you make a through pass no matter whats happening around them they will keep running ( even if the opposition will intercept the pass they will keep running until it happens ).

-Players freezing sometimes, sometimes when you have set pieces or when the opponent GK has the ball your players can't sprint ( where is the freedom KONAMI promised us? Pes 2012 is as much assisted and unfree as 2011 is ).

-Reverse catch up bug where when the attacker goes past your defence you CAN not catch him no matter what is still here... not sure how to fix this with stats even lowering dribble acc doesn't help it seems like its a similar story as the old catch up bug from 2011 where no matter what stats the game forces you and your players can't run faster than the attacker does.

-Sometimes you will pass the ball to the player between your target even if you ramp up the power to the max

-Cursor switching still seems akward to me?

And there are alot more minor things but these are my main gripes that need immidiate attention.

KONAMI is incompetent as far as im concerned, after years and years and after getting feedback from the fans , FEEDBACK on EXACTLY whats wrong they are still incapable of fixing those problems.

I just hope jenkey can fix some of these problems at least and the others are fixed by stat changes so that we at least have a decent enough game worth playing.

Sounds promising!
 
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