Stop Kidding Urselfs
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oseedo
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come on everyone knows what can be improved with pro it obvious, it jus whether konami will invest some of that hard earned cash we give them to do it.
fake things happen on pro all the time we all know that, sometimes it's the only way i think i lose. but saying the result is determined before the game has started. then Konami must like me alot, and i can't be as good as i think i am. i understand your rant, but it went to far with the match fixing thing.
its your style of play bruv
fake things happen on pro all the time we all know that, sometimes it's the only way i think i lose. but saying the result is determined before the game has started. then Konami must like me alot, and i can't be as good as i think i am. i understand your rant, but it went to far with the match fixing thing.
its your style of play bruv
doyin
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Are you talking to me or the person who started this thread?
MatTheCat
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Ah yes, you will be referring to the godwful fucking pes god-mode whereby the AI decides to spice up the action by favouring one team for a period of time, for one half, or even sometimes for a whole game. This blatant cheating AI has been very apparent in the game ever since PES5, was at its worst in PES6, and is still very bad in PES2008.
I haven't read the rest of this thread but no doubt there are a whole host of fanboys claiming no such cheating AI exists and/or people claiming 'yes, but that is real footie' etc etc...
I have also been a huge PESfan since day one but feel that series peaked at PES3 at least in terms of gameplay balance, and that any gameplay improvements made since then have been hampered by newly introduced AI flaws, gameplay imbalances, and downright cheap AI. Needless to say I took my copy back to store for a refund and havent had one single game on it in over 8 months.
PES2008 is fucking shit.
I do play the Wii version from time to time however.
thank you someone with abit of a brain on this site, all others tink YEA I'M AMAZING, I'M UNBEATABLE, IF FUKIN AI!! people who think there amazing this si for you,. . . . .
THE GAMES ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, IS NO MATCH FOR YOUR
NATURAL STUPIDITY!!
PESFan92
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God almighty the Ai & Online is so dam awful . They just seem to score whenever they want. Its even worse online!. First off, goalkeepers seem to suffer from Jens Lehmann syndrome. The "cheats" online who use the cutbacks really annoy me, now i don't mind it being used once or twice but its when they use it time and time again it frustrates me.
I have also been a PES fan ever since i played ISS and as MatTheCat said, it was at its peak in the days of PES3, after PES4 it went downhill, and FIFA started coming back.
Now? I prefer FIFA/Euro2008 over PES2008, but I play PES3 over both FIFA08.
Whats more, instead of spending £40 on PES2008, or FIFA,you can now go down to GameStation or CashConverters and pick up a copy of PES3 for about £3.
I have also been a PES fan ever since i played ISS and as MatTheCat said, it was at its peak in the days of PES3, after PES4 it went downhill, and FIFA started coming back.
Now? I prefer FIFA/Euro2008 over PES2008, but I play PES3 over both FIFA08.
Whats more, instead of spending £40 on PES2008, or FIFA,you can now go down to GameStation or CashConverters and pick up a copy of PES3 for about £3.
DM86
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Well the title of this forum sums it up perfectly.
End of the day, mugs (like myself included) get excited about the release of the new PES Game release & every year something always manages to disappoint us.
I am not entirely interested in licenses and 100% perfect kits. That stuff is just a bonus if they do it for us. Providing they put a good editting engine within the next installment e.g(the proper templates for the nike, adidas, puma, umbro & diadora kits) then let us upload our own graphics onto the game to each individual teams kits (shirts, shorts & socks) then i'd be happy for another sound.
There is plenty you can do within the game, either it be Master League, cup or league tournaments or turn to the online mode (very overated might I add,I get more disappointed with the fact every person you play picks either Inter, UTD OR Barca over the lag - bores me to death)
That said, with the inclusion of the CL License this year, something will no doubt be thrown in to ruin it. Like you can only play with the licensed teams on the CL mode (if it is its own mode) or they will leave 1 of the licensed leagues out this year in order to free up fundsto incorporate the CL license.
Only thing left to say is don't be getin yaselfs too excited just yet, it will no doubt end up pissin us off as it does al the time.
End of the day, mugs (like myself included) get excited about the release of the new PES Game release & every year something always manages to disappoint us.
I am not entirely interested in licenses and 100% perfect kits. That stuff is just a bonus if they do it for us. Providing they put a good editting engine within the next installment e.g(the proper templates for the nike, adidas, puma, umbro & diadora kits) then let us upload our own graphics onto the game to each individual teams kits (shirts, shorts & socks) then i'd be happy for another sound.
There is plenty you can do within the game, either it be Master League, cup or league tournaments or turn to the online mode (very overated might I add,I get more disappointed with the fact every person you play picks either Inter, UTD OR Barca over the lag - bores me to death)
That said, with the inclusion of the CL License this year, something will no doubt be thrown in to ruin it. Like you can only play with the licensed teams on the CL mode (if it is its own mode) or they will leave 1 of the licensed leagues out this year in order to free up fundsto incorporate the CL license.
Only thing left to say is don't be getin yaselfs too excited just yet, it will no doubt end up pissin us off as it does al the time.
shankly is god
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your a lil high strung eh "MATE" i was a bit drunk when i wrote that so yer i guess i jumped to conclusion...that said it pisses me off when people say i love pes and pes fan etc then go on to say how konami has let us down etc etc... i just say voice your opinion ofcourse but you cant change anything we just have to say what we feel and hope the next version is what we all want..... i dont share the same bad points as a few people in this forum on the game, but i have been pissed of with it sometimes....
Amateur
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That's also the kind of thing that really annoys me.. the predictable cutbacks that (for some reason) are impossible to stop. The Defensive Play needs more depth and substance -because- the advantage of an Attacker over a Defender is laughable.
Defenders are simply spectators watching how the opponent will score the next goal -Konami- needs to fix this flaw, it is extremely boring.
your ranking going from 6000 to 4000 means its gone up dickface, if numer 1 is the best number 3939 is better than 6000odd.......
and about the goalkeeper thing, try playing football and see how easy it is to predict where somebody is going to shoot, let alone the henrys of the game, you say your know where they are going, bull, all you can do is guess in such a situation.the game does have problems but non of them you mention, if you had of talked about the lag online, the fact that the ref send you off for feck all or the fact that defending sucks on the game i would of been with you but the reasons you give im afraid i have never had anyproblems with sorry for the dickface insult but you make a point that is totally wrong
shankly is god
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i hear you man, you made the proper shout out.....those things need improved considereibly, and i aint had a problem with those things either...
1 dickface! people on ere have agreed with me if u read the post correctly, an 2 i'm a great gueser of where the ball is goin in wat part of the goal, its natural reaction ot me now, am always in the right plce right time. . . just wrong game!! and have u ever wonderd " how the fuk did he beat me. . . ." as in a realy awful player wid terrible ratin an hardly any wins. . . . A.I mate as sum1 sed on ere, end of!
MatTheCat
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Yup.
I have often likened the PES AI to a game of table football where the surface/table tilts in a certain direction for a period of time. Obvioulsy when the table titls in your favour you can do nothing wrong and everything you try will work, when it tilts against you then you cannot do anything right and everything will go against you. The difference between the cheating PES AI and the titling table football is that the tilt on the table is blatantly obvious for all to see. The cheating PES AI takes someone with at least two brain cells to notice.
Amateur
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Yes the AI gets annoying some times -but- still, that happens a lot of times in real-life. Sometime everything goes your way -and- other times, things go against you. Sometimes I actually prefer it when everything is going the Computer's way because it makes a tougher challenge.
But anyways, if Konami manages to get the randomness OUT -then- it would be great. Because the annoying thing is that the computer randomly decides. But if Konami manages to introduce some kind of in-game Mentality gauge, or something to determine the Confidence Level of a team (and players) -then- I think that could solve that issue.
Because, that's an essential part of Football.. sometimes the little team wins over the big team because everything went their way -and- a lot of this haves to do with the INDIVIDUALS of the teams. Maybe some new feature such as an in-game Confidence gauge could determine each player's Mentality throughout the game.
Like for example, if your playing against Man Utd -and- you completely shut out Cristiano Ronaldo and Rooney -then- your team will gain in confidence and the momentum will be more on your side. I think that by doing something similar -Konami- could get rid of the randomness that fucks up the play (sometimes).
Red Owl
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I don't agree with any of that, and the only two main issues I have with the game I don't believe you have mentioned. (Although your typing hardly makes it crystal clear what you're saying).
1 - Goalkeepers (not when you use the GK cursor, just in general. In fact usually the opposition keepers. They are basically completely and utterly useless. If they spilled more crosses, didn't get every one-on-one but held on to or at least kept out the majority of shots, they'd be highly realistic.
2 - Editing. Just look at the kit editor. It's feeble. But then FIFA doesn't have one does it?