Swap Wings (Strategy Buttons)

[KHAN257]

when I use the Strategy Buttons offline and online in whatever formation and sliders etc the swap wings does not work. for example during a game i press Triangle (assigned for Swap wings) i want to move Ryan Giggs to the Right wing from the left and swap Nani to the Left wing from the right. But this activation of the Button does not make the players swap wing - during game.

has anybody had this problem, Im I doing something wrong etc do I need to mess with the managment Edit etc.


Can someone Please help me on this.

 

[Avelives]

I think, and I may be wrong, but it seems that swap wings does not actually well, swap wings at all.

If you watch the pitch graphic when choosing it it shows the opposite wing pushing forward. It seems that its basically the same command as opposite wing attack from last year just given a new misleading name for a reason best known to Konami. I think its suggests its easier to 'swap wings' cause the opposite one is pushed up and more likely to be in space but its a very badly named strategy imo

 

[u1tradt]

The swap wings function doesn't mean your SMFs/Wingers will swap positions with each other, it basically means that whenever you are in possession and attacking then the SMF/WF will try to find himself space for you to switch flanks and cross the ball to him. This way the defence is more likely to be on the back-foot if you're finding it hard to break through, even through the wings.

If you want your wingers to swap positions during play then make sure you play 3 forwards (2 SS's or WF's and 1 CF) and change 'position switch' in 'team style' to high (frequent), that way your forwards will do their best to confuse the opposition and the midfielders are more likely to get involved also, a lot like Barca really.

 

[Montanaro]

pretty pointless tactic IMO.

 

[KHAN257]

The swap wings function doesn't mean your SMFs/Wingers will swap positions with each other, it basically means that whenever you are in possession and attacking then the SMF/WF will try to find himself space for you to switch flanks and cross the ball to him. This way the defence is more likely to be on the back-foot if you're finding it hard to break through, even through the wings.

If you want your wingers to swap positions during play then make sure you play 3 forwards (2 SS's or WF's and 1 CF) and change 'position switch' in 'team style' to high (frequent), that way your forwards will do their best to confuse the opposition and the midfielders are more likely to get involved also, a lot like Barca really.

absolutely correct, well detailed ur answer,

the only problem is when using position switch i.e. at high say 17/18, my full backs bomb forward into centre attack and even find themselves as SS, leaving me open at the back. is there anyway where u switch upfront with a solid line of back four in defence ?

 

[KHAN257]

I think, and I may be wrong, but it seems that swap wings does not actually well, swap wings at all.

If you watch the pitch graphic when choosing it it shows the opposite wing pushing forward. It seems that its basically the same command as opposite wing attack from last year just given a new misleading name for a reason best known to Konami. I think its suggests its easier to 'swap wings' cause the opposite one is pushed up and more likely to be in space but its a very badly named strategy imo

yes you're right. Konami and Seabass have mislead us on the term "swap wing" it should be as u say "opposite wing attack". Shame on you Konami. actually Swapping wing should be in the game as a stragey button like the others and pes 6.

 

[Zorac1979]

yep it's "Swap wings" with the ball not "swap wingers" it makes it easier to hit cross field balls, like u1tradt said, to opposite SMF/WFs.

 

[Maurice78]

basically what i told you in the first answer Khan

 

[klashman]

Translations issues, that's why people are having trouble understanding the tactics. i think the translation between Japanese and English is what's causes this problem. It's been like this since the beginning back in ISS TBH!

 

[u1tradt]

the only problem is when using position switch i.e. at high say 17/18, my full backs bomb forward into centre attack and even find themselves as SS, leaving me open at the back. is there anyway where u switch upfront with a solid line of back four in defence ?

This may be to do with your set-piece settings. Some teams by default have a couple defenders join the attack, however you can change this in the set-piece settings section (go to the bottom) and choose for yourself which of your defenders should and shouldn't join the attack. If that doesn't work then it probably is just down to the frequent position switching.

 

[iamcanadianeh]

If you want them to swap, then go into the gameplan screen and swap them. Or else, I think you could create a "plan B" strategy where they swap.

 

[Montanaro]

If you want them to swap, then go into the gameplan screen and swap them. Or else, I think you could create a "plan B" strategy where they swap.

There are quite a few tricks you could pull with a plan A or Plan B strategy.

For instance, flooding the box by switching to plan A, or drop EVERYONE into defense with Plan B. Or as you mentioned, flip sides (still don't know why this would do any good in PES)

 

[sweetmusicman]

I never understood this Plan A and Plan B thing? Is it a strategy that one has to set up and the save as plan a or b? And the as the game progress you trigger them to come into play. If so how does one do that?

 

[joekim1]

you have to set up diff formations for plan A and plan B and use them by pressing start and whatever key you assign it to in the game. its the formation switch thing.

 

[alx-9]

I never understood this Plan A and Plan B thing? Is it a strategy that one has to set up and the save as plan a or b? And the as the game progress you trigger them to come into play. If so how does one do that?

The Plan A and B options are there so that you can quickly change tactics without having to pause the match. The changes can be as big or small as you like: maybe just swap your wingers around.

What I do is have Plan A for a super all out attack option. If I'm losing in the last 15 minutes or things just aren't going my way at all, I'll switch to plan A with just 2 defenders, a few mids and the rest all up front. A now or never approach.

Plan B is the opposite: if I'm winning but being dominated, I'll activate plan B in which all my players go as far back as possible, don't offer support during attack etc. Basically park the bus in front of goal.


Another big advantage of Plan A and Plan B is that your opponent can't see those tactics as far as I'm aware. So he will only be able to tell you've changed by observing the players different behavior during the match. If you change your starting formation whilst the game is paused, your opponent can see you make all sorts of changes and might then adapt to your new tactics.

 

[wipsnadepoo]

Ok I realise now we are a little off topic but how do I set up and execute these plans A & B? I haven't found anything in the guide I got with the game?

Cheers lads

 

[FutebolArte]

would be better if it were named switch wings

 

[alx-9]

Ok I realise now we are a little off topic but how do I set up and execute these plans A & B? I haven't found anything in the guide I got with the game?

Cheers lads

Go to gameplan. At the bottom there are options like formation, set piece tactics etc. I think all the way on the left is something called Strategy. There are 4 options: (for the xbox 360) the A button, the B button, the X button and the Y button. For the PS3 that would be x, circle, square and triangle.

If you click on one of them, you will open a new sublist with all the different 'advanced tactics' you can do. Amongst those are Plan A and Plan B (all the way at the top if I remember correctly).

Click on that and you will have a sort of mini gameplan where you can move players about on the pitch as well as changing settings like pressure, support, defensive line, etc.


Thats basically where the Plan A and B are and how to use them. I hope this helps!