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[TEAMS] Classic Clubs by Various Editors

EnglishSnake

Registered User
A lot of questions, I will try my best.

1) No duplicates, so no two of the same teams either. Although we may use older players with real faces in some clubs. Mostly old players that are close to retirement but this will be kept to a minimum.

2) We will try our best to assign to the most appropriate club but as you would know, many opinions will differ. My advice is for people to make necessary transfers themselves if they wish differ than we chose.

3) We are doing this project with Pes Universe and they will disperse the content. Meaning we can 'piggy back' off their optionfile. We will sacrifice the bundesliga for our content although a few can be added to 'other European teams'.

4) The first 20 teams will be straight forward. We are using teams/players from the PEU league. Each team will slot in there. The 2nd and if 3rd and 4th will be a little more complicated but I'll address that closer to the time.

5) On this file it will only be classic clubs but when you play a master league you will notice national team selections will contain the best players of each nation. Naturally making an 'all star' national team.

6) These types of teams haven't been fully planned as of yet although it is completely possible. In the second update we will have a MLS all time team for example.

The main purpose of this file is for Master League use. IMO the structure we are using is the best way of doing it. I must warn though, once in a ML teams will from the start making transfers. This is unfortunate but if we were too use ERA teams they would become a lot more redundant quicker than All Star teams. Plus they are much harder to compile without duplicates.

When people start playing the ML they will discover the joy of no duplicates. Things like team of the month/tournament will not look silly by having two Ronaldos for example. They will look epic. Searching for players will seem more authentic for transfers etc. There will be draw backs though. Players won't have 'superstar' status etc because this is something specific to each player, meaning we can not change but in time as the ML progresses these things will happen.

Thanks for the quick replies.

All i play is ML anyways tbh with the EPL and Championship so im happy to know it is mainly for offline.

Regarding point 4 would you more or less overwrite a national team such as Iraq or just less popular clubs in the america/second divs.

As for point 6 would you be willing to take possible requests from people or would a poll be more or less a simpler thing since everyone would want a different person such as Adebayo Akinfenwa for example.
 

h777

Registered User
Thanks for the quick replies.

All i play is ML anyways tbh with the EPL and Championship so im happy to know it is mainly for offline.

Regarding point 4 would you more or less overwrite a national team such as Iraq or just less popular clubs in the america/second divs.

As for point 6 would you be willing to take possible requests from people or would a poll be more or less a simpler thing since everyone would want a different person such as Adebayo Akinfenwa for example.

Iraq?! How dare you, that is half my subscribers on YouTube lol and I'm being completely serious. No national teams mate. In edit mode you can alter via national team selection if you wish so.

Also Pes Universe has other classic contributors but I'm not sure of what their plans are but it will not be part of this file as they aren't working with us.

Phase two will be Serie B. There are numerous reasons for this. All the good competitions is in Europe. Serie B has 22 clubs giving us 42 two tier division which I will set cup matches to 2 legs so no one gets an easy ride. Combine that with the champions league, Europa league, national duty etc and you will probably have the most difficult football game ever. If the AI is good of course and depending on skill preferences and control type choices as well. I played this fully manual on superstar on pes 16 and it was the toughest I've ever experienced.

We may do this mate but we have 65 teams fully typed up. Some may not see the light of day but we have a lot to get through. I don't know how long we will go on for but I can't commit to unplanned teams before we haven't done the ones we have planned.
 

Ratmundo

Registered User
A lot of questions, I will try my best.

1) No duplicates, so no two of the same teams either. Although we may use older players with real faces in some clubs. Mostly old players that are close to retirement but this will be kept to a minimum.

2) We will try our best to assign to the most appropriate club but as you would know, many opinions will differ. My advice is for people to make necessary transfers themselves if they wish differ than we chose.

3) We are doing this project with Pes Universe and they will disperse the content. Meaning we can 'piggy back' off their optionfile. We will sacrifice the bundesliga for our content although a few can be added to 'other European teams'.

4) The first 20 teams will be straight forward. We are using teams/players from the PEU league. Each team will slot in there. The 2nd and if 3rd and 4th will be a little more complicated but I'll address that closer to the time.

5) On this file it will only be classic clubs but when you play a master league you will notice national team selections will contain the best players of each nation. Naturally making an 'all star' national team.

6) These types of teams haven't been fully planned as of yet although it is completely possible. In the second update we will have a MLS all time team for example.

The main purpose of this file is for Master League use. IMO the structure we are using is the best way of doing it. I must warn though, once in a ML teams will from the start making transfers. This is unfortunate but if we were too use ERA teams they would become a lot more redundant quicker than All Star teams. Plus they are much harder to compile without duplicates.

When people start playing the ML they will discover the joy of no duplicates. Things like team of the month/tournament will not look silly by having two Ronaldos for example. They will look epic. Searching for players will seem more authentic for transfers etc. There will be draw backs though. Players won't have 'superstar' status etc because this is something specific to each player, meaning we can not change but in time as the ML progresses these things will happen.

Bloody Nora... even I want to play Master League now! :cool:
 

h777

Registered User
Bloody Nora... even I want to play Master League now! :cool:

You'll get to play after Christmas with all the faces you have to make for it lol. :)

It will be great fun mate, it blew my mind at times last year. The team of the months just make you go Wow. Certain players will make your life a nightmare like your Sindelar did to me on pes 16 lol. But it's all great fun because it is a test without the lag of online gameplay.

With the added tactics as well and if I can do them justice. Teams will be as diverse as they come.
 

lucashc2608

Registered User
Im ancious about it, waiting for that of, i love to play with the old players
I have did Adriano imperador and Roberto carlos and Ronaldinhos, if you guys want i share with you.
 

Ratmundo

Registered User
You'll get to play after Christmas with all the faces you have to make for it lol. :)

LOL :D

These two boys will be fighting to have the honour of playing alongside Peter Crouch in my team matey!!

 

h777

Registered User
LOL :D

These two boys will be fighting to have the honour of playing alongside Peter Crouch in my team matey!!


Crouchy will be in his element, battle of the over head kicks haha, great combo though. Lmao.

They both look class as well mate. :)
 

EnglishSnake

Registered User
Iraq?! How dare you, that is half my subscribers on YouTube lol and I'm being completely serious. No national teams mate. In edit mode you can alter via national team selection if you wish so.

Also Pes Universe has other classic contributors but I'm not sure of what their plans are but it will not be part of this file as they aren't working with us.

Phase two will be Serie B. There are numerous reasons for this. All the good competitions is in Europe. Serie B has 22 clubs giving us 42 two tier division which I will set cup matches to 2 legs so no one gets an easy ride. Combine that with the champions league, Europa league, national duty etc and you will probably have the most difficult football game ever. If the AI is good of course and depending on skill preferences and control type choices as well. I played this fully manual on superstar on pes 16 and it was the toughest I've ever experienced.

We may do this mate but we have 65 teams fully typed up. Some may not see the light of day but we have a lot to get through. I don't know how long we will go on for but I can't commit to unplanned teams before we haven't done the ones we have planned.

Only reason i do say nationals is because barring 1 or 2 players some national teams are like why?

As for PES universe not sure what they may do, possibly a few classics which were unlockables in PES5 for example but this OF your helping to do is more of a complete classic like with Leeds UTD and tony yeboah etc.

I thought div 2 of la liga would have been chosen before serie B since i tend to view as Italy as the stronger leagues in europe but really does not matter.

As for the 65teams i mean Konami will continue to patch this and update it which will play havoc with any OF but i expect you want the major teams to be done and dusted so ML is playable. With the odd players it would be more or less like the classic teams they added after PES 2013 with just a collection of random players stuck in a team just so you can buy in ML and play with, more of a fun thing to add but not essential or even create an empty slot so we can make and add our own players.
 

h777

Registered User
Only reason i do say nationals is because barring 1 or 2 players some national teams are like why?

As for PES universe not sure what they may do, possibly a few classics which were unlockables in PES5 for example but this OF your helping to do is more of a complete classic like with Leeds UTD and tony yeboah etc.

I thought div 2 of la liga would have been chosen before serie B since i tend to view as Italy as the stronger leagues in europe but really does not matter.

As for the 65teams i mean Konami will continue to patch this and update it which will play havoc with any OF but i expect you want the major teams to be done and dusted so ML is playable. With the odd players it would be more or less like the classic teams they added after PES 2013 with just a collection of random players stuck in a team just so you can buy in ML and play with, more of a fun thing to add but not essential or even create an empty slot so we can make and add our own players.

Key to an optionfile working smoothly is working together because of specific player slots, team slots etc. This is what we are doing. Pes Universe is actively working with us. Alister PesUni (site admin) has been building teams and is a big part of this project. You could say we are part of them. Many of their editors have already helped and will help in the future. The concept we are implementing has not been dreamt up a week before pes 17, but months in the planning.

There is no problem creating another profile and implementing other classic structures but that will be for you and others to decide. Minipulation is always possible, it is question of manual customisation by the user.

We could have problems from Konami, but this is nothing new. I built mine optionfile twice last year because of them so let me worry about them and I will try to keep everyone right. :)

Leave the small nations alone lol.
 

Ratmundo

Registered User
Classic Manchester United Squad

Bill Foulkes & Bobby Charlton



Bryan Robson & David Beckham


Denis Irwin & Denis Law


Duncan Edwards & Edwin van der Sar


Eric Cantona & Gary Neville


George Best & Jaap Stam


Johnny Carey & Mark Hughes


Nemanja Vidic & Nicky Butt


Norman Whiteside & Paul Scholes


Peter Schmeichel & Rio Ferdinand


Roy Keane & Ruud Van Nistelrooy


Ryan Giggs & Steve Coppell


Tommy Taylor & Tony Dunne
 

Ratmundo

Registered User
Classic Arsenal Squad

Alex James & Charlie George


Cliff Bastin & David O'Leary


David Rocastle & David Seaman


Dennis Bergkamp & Eddie Hapgood


Freddie Ljunberg & Ian Wright


Jack Kelsey & Kenny Sansom


Lee Dixon & Liam Brady


Martin Keown & Nigel Winterburn


Nwankwo Kanu & Pat Rice


Patrick Vieira & Paul Merson


Ray Parlour & Robert Pires


Robin Van Persie (IN GAME) & Sol Campbell


Thierry Henry & Tony Adams
 

Ratmundo

Registered User
Classic Santos Squad

Calvet & Carlos Alberto


Cesar Sampaio & Clodoaldo


Coutinho & Dalmo


Dorval & Edu Cracena (IN GAME)


Edu & Elano (IN GAME)


Gilmar & Giovanni


Joel & Leo


Lima & Mauro Ramos


Mengalvio & Pagao


Pele & Pepe


Pita & Rildo


Robinho (IN GAME) & Rodolfo Rodriguez


Toninho Guerreiro & Zito
 

Mikeav2010

Registered User
Oooohhhh Ratmundo!! Just...Simply Amazing!!

IM SO EXCITED!!!! :D

But two questions! Some of these dudes are in the world/european classics, when the OF becomes available, will they become duplicates or will they simply be transferred from the world classics to their classic team?

Also, i have noticed that when i imported Zenit for example, it used some spaces in my created players. Will the same happen for your OF?

How then, can i remove a spot from the created players yet still keep the player in the team?
 

bw88

Registered User
The thought of this OF makes me really excited. A few questions, sorry if these have been asked already...

Once installed, will live updates ruin the teams?

When is it likely to be 100% complete?

Thanks.
 

RedTed

Registered User
Classic Arsenal Squad

Alex James & Charlie George


Cliff Bastin & David O'Leary


David Rocastle & David Seaman


Dennis Bergkamp & Eddie Hapgood


Freddie Ljunberg & Ian Wright


Jack Kelsey & Kenny Sansom


Lee Dixon & Liam Brady


Martin Keown & Nigel Winterburn


Nwankwo Kanu & Pat Rice


Patrick Vieira & Paul Merson


Ray Parlour & Robert Pires


Robin Van Persie (IN GAME) & Sol Campbell


Thierry Henry & Tony Adams

Ratmundo you are an artist, superb faces!
 

h777

Registered User
Oooohhhh Ratmundo!! Just...Simply Amazing!!

IM SO EXCITED!!!! :D

But two questions! Some of these dudes are in the world/european classics, when the OF becomes available, will they become duplicates or will they simply be transferred from the world classics to their classic team?

Also, i have noticed that when i imported Zenit for example, it used some spaces in my created players. Will the same happen for your OF?

How then, can i remove a spot from the created players yet still keep the player in the team?

It should not effect this as we are not using created player slots. As for the euro/world classic. For the moment I will ignore them. They can be turned off if I'm correct (Master league) as it was in pes 16 and will only effect the players currently in that squad. So not necessarily legends but whoever is in there.

Stat wise for each team we are nearly 100%. So far no problems for me but I have not updated my own game with current kits etc. I intend to do after and also won't be downloading any other user generated teams. Reason being is if they are not compatible with our file, they may delete some of our data.

[MENTION=235815]bw88[/MENTION] I have had no problems as of yet with live updates. When in exhibition mode they can be turned to normal and everything edited will return.

As for release, I hope within the next 2 weeks for the first 20 teams. I do not promise but I hope.
 

Ratmundo

Registered User
Oooohhhh Ratmundo!! Just...Simply Amazing!!

IM SO EXCITED!!!! :D

But two questions! Some of these dudes are in the world/european classics, when the OF becomes available, will they become duplicates or will they simply be transferred from the world classics to their classic team?

Also, i have noticed that when i imported Zenit for example, it used some spaces in my created players. Will the same happen for your OF?

How then, can i remove a spot from the created players yet still keep the player in the team?

Thank you buddy... h777 will answer your questions mate, I'm just a face maker ;)

Ratmundo you are an artist, superb faces!

Thank you very much RedTed :)
 

Mikeav2010

Registered User
It should not effect this as we are not using created player slots. As for the euro/world classic. For the moment I will ignore them. They can be turned off if I'm correct (Master league) as it was in pes 16 and will only effect the players currently in that squad. So not necessarily legends but whoever is in there.

Stat wise for each team we are nearly 100%. So far no problems for me but I have not updated my own game with current kits etc. I intend to do after and also won't be downloading any other user generated teams. Reason being is if they are not compatible with our file, they may delete some of our data.

[MENTION=235815]bw88[/MENTION] I have had no problems as of yet with live updates. When in exhibition mode they can be turned to normal and everything edited will return.

As for release, I hope within the next 2 weeks for the first 20 teams. I do not promise but I hope.

Hi H777, thanks for the reply, good to know that it wont fill up any created slots. That way, i can fill up more of Ratmundo's faces hahaha!

And never mind about the teams, i put another team over Zenit that team didnt require created player slots, so i was able to delete the Zenit guys.

And yes, you are right, you can turn off legends in ML.

Thank you very much!
 

Ratmundo

Registered User
I think it would be better if we kept this thread as an Information and questions only thread.

So any future faces or squads that I personally create, I will upload only in my own thread in the editing section.
 

Mikeav2010

Registered User
I think it would be better if we kept this thread as an Information and questions only thread.

So any future faces or squads that I personally create, I will upload only in my own thread in the editing section.

I hope Materazzi is part of that!!! :D:D:D

Another question! When this OF comes out...where will it be saved? What league...i do would like it to be part of the European League so that the teams appear in the UEFA. But, then i would have to give up the Bundesliga. Unless, i move the Bundesliga to the Other European Teams and then screw those teams..hahaha!
 
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