RAMAXWY
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don't forget the KONAMI developers that came along with him.......and their great marketing team.
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don't forget the KONAMI developers that came along with him.......and their great marketing team.
The_Difman
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That's maybe the lamest excuse I've heard since Seabass said he couldn't get 360 directions on Xbox 360 lol
Tech_Skill
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Totally agree.
You know why EA made all those changes to the manager mode?
You know why they fine tuned the results, transfer and data?
You know why the sorted the ball issues etc?
Becuase this bloke listens
Twitter him, he might come back to you if he can
No fucking lies, bullshit, excuses.
Not saying he's perfect, but lets say this.
Theres a reason pes now have feedback forum on the major sites.......
And rutter is the reason.
The final peices in the fifa jigsaw are Longevity and Individuality
This year they are trying to sort out the longevity.
Lets see.
Perfectstrik
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most magazines and journos last year clearly prefered pes09 to fifa09 and still play pes09 over fifa to this day as do most pes fans even though they do nothing but bitch about it because pes is more of a game and always will be.
as for this broken promises and we have heard it all before lets look at the bigger picture.
konami have implemented a state of the art graphics engine,tactical slider(that works),card system and are now in the process back at there hq of refining the 360 movement system and adding all the animations and new tricks that they have spent the last year motion capturing to deliver a product that is breathtaking.
Do you seriously think they have put all this work in to release a game that still uses pes09 animation set.........no!! you guys are so short sighted and dont understand anything about the final stages of game developement or seem to realise that fifa is at the gold stage of development ready for print and circulation to the press.
Look at pes2010 at gamescom you can see theres still running animations to be added and much more and it probably already has as pes2010 is probably about 90% ready in japan.
as for this broken promises and we have heard it all before lets look at the bigger picture.
konami have implemented a state of the art graphics engine,tactical slider(that works),card system and are now in the process back at there hq of refining the 360 movement system and adding all the animations and new tricks that they have spent the last year motion capturing to deliver a product that is breathtaking.
Do you seriously think they have put all this work in to release a game that still uses pes09 animation set.........no!! you guys are so short sighted and dont understand anything about the final stages of game developement or seem to realise that fifa is at the gold stage of development ready for print and circulation to the press.
Look at pes2010 at gamescom you can see theres still running animations to be added and much more and it probably already has as pes2010 is probably about 90% ready in japan.
Desijut
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he did just not on the d pad "Difman"
RAMAXWY
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this isn't an excuse its a fact and afterwards the game improved drastically.
i'm not saying its a bad thing but its not all RUTTER.
The_Difman
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Let's FIFA 10? lol
The_Difman
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shankly is god
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Testify my brother...
@ Tech - your talking about fifa 10 there which does look amazingly improved but if it still has that 1 issue that pisses me off where playing on pro all defenders are faster than worldclass forwards...im going to pass im afraid
The_Difman
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I've got no problems with Gary Neville being faster than Fernando Torres ... its realistic
lolDon't forget the crab walking too
RAMAXWY
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Doesn't matter who's doing it ... at least we're getting 2 decent games this year
YUP looks like it and i will be getting both this year again unless the DEMO'S convince me otherwise.
The_Difman
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Same as me ... same as the last 2 years
shankly is god
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I've got no problems with Gary Neville being faster than Fernando Torres ... its realistic
Don't forget the crab walking too
There are many issues with fifa but i can live with them but having like you said a 35 years old who was slow even in his peak...faster then torres, messi etc is too much...
I will be buying both games also as they both offer diff things but if i had a gun to me head i would chose pes anyday just cant live with out it lol
and my girl hates it ha ha
Tech_Skill
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Then pass mate, seriously, doesnt bother me, I dont care which game people play, its just when people make absurd statements about 50% builds being shown at gamescom, cos i dont buy that and if it is true, then seabass should quit.
iosonocanadese
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I'm not saying FIFA hasn't improved, and having been a part of developing the new series of Champ Man games (post-SI) he should know a thing or two about manager modes. That aspect doesn't interest me nearly as much as in-game action, though that's just me. If I want a management game, I buy Football Manager.
To me, though, the FIFA strategy remains the same as it always was, new developer or not. The hype about the new development team is just that, hype, and that further fuels the consensus among many that FIFA is superior. The last 2 years FIFA has just added new features and hasn't improved their still-poor AI or the lack of variation in gameplay much at all. It's still a better game than it was in previous years, but I'm not blinded by FIFA fanboyism. Reading the game developer's Twitter and talking as if he's your best friend, dude, you're a fanboy. No getting around it.
For me, this is the bottom line... I get bored of FIFA a lot more quickly than I get bored of PES, some editions of which I've never tired of at all.
Also, people will like Rutter because he's from a football nation. A knock against FIFA people always had was that it's developed by Canadians, this is no longer so.
To me, though, the FIFA strategy remains the same as it always was, new developer or not. The hype about the new development team is just that, hype, and that further fuels the consensus among many that FIFA is superior. The last 2 years FIFA has just added new features and hasn't improved their still-poor AI or the lack of variation in gameplay much at all. It's still a better game than it was in previous years, but I'm not blinded by FIFA fanboyism. Reading the game developer's Twitter and talking as if he's your best friend, dude, you're a fanboy. No getting around it.
For me, this is the bottom line... I get bored of FIFA a lot more quickly than I get bored of PES, some editions of which I've never tired of at all.
Also, people will like Rutter because he's from a football nation. A knock against FIFA people always had was that it's developed by Canadians, this is no longer so.
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Perfectstrik
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go on the fifa forums and beat your drum its starting to grate..........so you prefer EA GOOD FOR YOU BUT I DONT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT ON A PES FORUM!!!!!!
I personally think fifa10 looks average and dull and nothing like the real game its just to abstract and removed from the roots of football plus its a boring slow take on the real game thats no fun focusing to much on set plays and rubbing shoulders with defenders and is a cold heartless,souless rendition of football.You like it that way good for you.
now go and polish dave ruttlers knob on his forums..........
The_Difman
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Shall we just turn this thread into "Rutter Vs Seabass: Who Would Win In A Fight?"
shankly is god
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My money is on the ring girl
Tech_Skill
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Seabass is killing pes mate, why people cant see that i dont know. One of the biggest liars in gaming.
The things he said about pes 2008 being a great game, then admitted it was half finished and thought about scrapping it, then he said they would only release the next game if it was ready no matter what, even if it took years, now hes saying he cant imagine not bringing out a pes every year.
Lie after lie.
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