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The 'How are you doing in MLO' thread

lyc10

Registered User
I have replaced Ivarov with the very reliable Coupet 81 rating with 7 in form and he has been an absolute rock for me.
He hasnt made once single mistake now in almost 300 games played.
(Ivarov made one big mistake every other game)

Turned my team from 36 wins in 100 games to 65 wins in 100 games with him beeing the only change in those 200 games.

It should be said I almost only play coach mode and have a hell of a stellar team since I'm closing in on 1000 games played. (Yes, last coupple of weeks I've had had VERY little to do except PES. (Bedridden duh to an injury))

It consists of:

GK:
Coupet - 81

LB
Bale - 84
CB
Heinze - 82
CB
Hilton - 75
RB
Abate - 79

DM
Toulalan - 79
CM
Ireland - 72
CM
Gourcuff - 85

SS
Luis Garcia - 79
SS
Tevez - 86
CF
Inzagi - 79

My first two big signings were Abate and Bale and having really qualitly 2 way SB's have been crucial.
Also both Toulalan, Luis Garcia and Inzagi have been real monsters and are delivering way above there 79 rating.
I play an hard possession game with only 4 in player support. (The slider that decides the pace of your attacking-game) and usually see the ball possession end up over 60%.

But as you can see, that is quite the team and yet before I got myself a proper Goalkeeper I only managed to scrape out a winprocent of 36%.
The usuall senario beeing Ivarov "giving" (rebound) the ball to an enemy forward in the 80'th+ minute making the match a draw.

Hope that answers your question.
i bought toulalan too, absolutely brilliant considering he cost something like 2.5mil
 

foss

Registered User
i played my first tournament last night and it was awesome. i wish you got more money for quick match games, i get about 40k if i win.. in the tournament i was getting 80-90k for just drawing a match and i only won once so i don't recall what i won but it was a lot. i ended up not qualifying and mostly drawing but i still came out with 700k from playing in the qualifying for about an hour.

it's really hard to start building up but i have about 68-71 rated players.

ivarov was solid except for FKs he would just be rooted every time. i just replaced him with someone around the same rating and he's a lot better so far.

i've been relegated to D5 though as of yesterday. :(
 

Avelives

Registered User
Grr frustrating evening today, played twice lost twice, my worst day so far...
Theres two things which are really bugging me that im clearly missing.

1) What settings do people use to get their defense to sit right on top of my forwards, Ive tried deep and pushed up and whenever they have the ball my defenders are always miles away from them, yet when I pass forward they are literally in my pocket immediately.

2) How do people hold me off so easily, when I charge down people in defence they can often hold the ball while I have two people pressing them and still backpass it through my legs perfectly to someone else. On the other side when I have the ball and try to dribble their donkey defenders like Valeny just crage through my players like they dont exist and barely break stride? Is this cause they have pressing set really high or just some arcane skill Im not aware of??

Help much appreciated as atm I feel like im doing ok despite these things, if I could sort them out I would be alot better. Also worth noting I get quite low ping rates could that be a factor?
 

foss

Registered User
1) What settings do people use to get their defense to sit right on top of my forwards, Ive tried deep and pushed up and whenever they have the ball my defenders are always miles away from them, yet when I pass forward they are literally in my pocket immediately.

in game plan go down to the bottom toolbar and hit team tactics or something. you can set a slider left and right on things like DF line (set to high) and closing down (set higher).

2) How do people hold me off so easily, when I charge down people in defence they can often hold the ball while I have two people pressing them and still backpass it through my legs perfectly to someone else. On the other side when I have the ball and try to dribble their donkey defenders like Valeny just crage through my players like they dont exist and barely break stride? Is this cause they have pressing set really high or just some arcane skill Im not aware of??

it's just how the game plays. it's the same for everyone you just need to adjust.. just like people who are saying the shooting is off or something.. well it's not "off" it's just the way it is in this game. people seem to think a game should play and behave exactly as a previous version which when you think about it is silly
 

Avelives

Registered User
in game plan go down to the bottom toolbar and hit team tactics or something. you can set a slider left and right on things like DF line (set to high) and closing down (set higher).



it's just how the game plays. it's the same for everyone you just need to adjust.. just like people who are saying the shooting is off or something.. well it's not "off" it's just the way it is in this game. people seem to think a game should play and behave exactly as a previous version which when you think about it is silly

Thanks for the replies, on the first issue, I tried playing higher line with high pressing but still there seems to be tons of space for 90% of the peoples forwards I play against, by contrast my forwards always seem to be totally closed down before they even receive the ball... weird

The second point I hope I didnt come across as whiney, I dont expect to be brilliant, but its just atm I dont understand what I can do to keep hold of the ball in certain situations

Example - Today I was playing and my forward who is tall, strong (balance 83) and pretty quick (75/73 respectively) gets the ball, immediately Valeny is up his arse and running him down, I hold R2 (dribble) and try to sping round away from his momentum but he just literally barrels through me sends him stumbling like a tit and runs off with the ball without barely breaking stride. By contrast he get the ball with Espimas (who is pretty poor) and manages to sprint along the edge of my box with Nzonzi and Sivok right on top of him and to insult to injury shoots and scores... And he wasnt doing tricks, or dribbling just sprinting. Am I using X wrong in this new version? Should I be spamming it (pressing repeatedly) or holding it? If holding what direction should I pressing on the pad etc etc

Now Im perfectly happy to accept that he was obviously better at the game than me, but I need to know how to do things like that cause currently I havent a clue.

Anyways thanks for the reply man
 

lyc10

Registered User
Grr frustrating evening today, played twice lost twice, my worst day so far...
Theres two things which are really bugging me that im clearly missing.

1) What settings do people use to get their defense to sit right on top of my forwards, Ive tried deep and pushed up and whenever they have the ball my defenders are always miles away from them, yet when I pass forward they are literally in my pocket immediately.

2) How do people hold me off so easily, when I charge down people in defence they can often hold the ball while I have two people pressing them and still backpass it through my legs perfectly to someone else. On the other side when I have the ball and try to dribble their donkey defenders like Valeny just crage through my players like they dont exist and barely break stride? Is this cause they have pressing set really high or just some arcane skill Im not aware of??

Help much appreciated as atm I feel like im doing ok despite these things, if I could sort them out I would be alot better. Also worth noting I get quite low ping rates could that be a factor?

i seem to be having the same problems, fuck sake, giersen is pushing me off the ball with his shitty 69 body balance
 

ng_501

Registered User
i seem to be having the same problems, fuck sake, giersen is pushing me off the ball with his shitty 69 body balance

lol the original sb EL Mxxxx always kill my pedro (pedro body balance is low anyways), but perhaps in the new pes they use weight for defense and balance for offense
 

Avelives

Registered User
lol the original sb EL Mxxxx always kill my pedro (pedro body balance is low anyways), but perhaps in the new pes they use weight for defense and balance for offense

You might be onto something there, worth investigating at least. I might buy a few pie eaters and see what the effect is.

Actually thinking about it that cant be right, balance is used in offense and defence, but perhaps you are partially right in that the new version may put more importance on body weight rather than just overall balance, so a fat sod like Valeny even with his average strength ends up being quite effective... hmm?

I know in older versions excess body weight was generally a disadvantage but with speed merchants toned down and no more super sprinting thats not so much an issue now, so perhaps its worth hiring a team of fatties.

That still doesnt explain how slim rubbish players like Espimas can hold off 2 or 3 of my players at a time though, there must be a skill or setting involved that im not privvy to.
 

ng_501

Registered User
You might be onto something there, worth investigating at least. I might buy a few pie eaters and see what the effect is.

Actually thinking about it that cant be right, balance is used in offense and defence, but perhaps you are partially right in that the new version may put more importance on body weight rather than just overall balance, so a fat sod like Valeny even with his average strength ends up being quite effective... hmm?

I know in older versions excess body weight was generally a disadvantage but with speed merchants toned down and no more super sprinting thats not so much an issue now, so perhaps its worth hiring a team of fatties.

That still doesnt explain how slim rubbish players like Espimas can hold off 2 or 3 of my players at a time though, there must be a skill or setting involved that im not privvy to.

but thats kinda make sense that like messi's balance is not low right? so he is rarely lose balance when he is dribbling. but when someone who is literally "bigger" than him but with lower balance should able to knock him down
 

Avelives

Registered User
but thats kinda make sense that like messi's balance is not low right? so he is rarely lose balance when he is dribbling. but when someone who is literally "bigger" than him but with lower balance should able to knock him down

Well for one Messi is a bad example cause hes a special case in this game, but I get your point. I cant say really cause Im not even sure if this is whats happening.

All I can say for certain while at work without being able to test it out is that defenders like Valeny who are utter crap but a bit fat can literally face rape me off the ball without breaking sweat, where as my superior defenders need to double or triple team people like Espimas just to clear the ball for a throw in... Im not saying the game is at fault, cause clearly most people dont have this problem but obviously there is something im missing.
 

Katt3n

Registered User
i bought toulalan too, absolutely brilliant considering he cost something like 2.5mil

Indeed, I'm acually having problem seeing anyone to replace him ever. There isnt alot of good defensive DMF's with his passing-capabilites.
 

MaccyP2909

Registered User
Gutted! :crymore:

Just missed out on Qualifing in the D5 cup! Won three in a row with a +4 GD but top 16 was +5 GD. Oh well there's another comp later hopefully I'll do a bit better. Would love to get a chance in the knockout rounds plus the 400k bonus I've heard to get for qualification would be very nice!
 

lyc10

Registered User
Indeed, I'm acually having problem seeing anyone to replace him ever. There isnt alot of good defensive DMF's with his passing-capabilites.

there are a few, but they're worth way too much, i'd rather spend some money on other positions before i look into it more, besides why replace him if hes doing perfectly fine
 

Montanaro

Registered User
I'm thinking of dropping K Davies for Tim Cahill for CF.

Davies isn't the fastest but has 90 body balance and 90ish header stats, but 73/74 shot accuracy. He gets goals ocassionally and his 7 form is nice (plus he's cheap) but he tends to miss a shots due to his accuracy, and his heading skill rarely comes into play.

So I think Cahill would be a better fit, same form, better teamwork, better technique and shot accuracy, same body balance, slightly faster, better passer (good for lone striker) and better at heading. Plus he has good skill cards like maurading, 1 touch instead of Davies chasing back card.
 

Katt3n

Registered User
there are a few, but they're worth way too much, i'd rather spend some money on other positions before i look into it more, besides why replace him if hes doing perfectly fine

Yeah ofc, if money was no issue whatsoever there are a coupple (With X Alonso as the top-choice) but the difference isnt really that big.

And yes, as long as Toulalan is doing his job there is no point in swaping for someone else. (acually he will be the 2nd last player to get swaped from my current starting 11. (With Tevez prolly never getting swapped.))
 
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