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this doesn't change the fact that the XBOX 360 PES6 has full analogue. i hope to God the new game has full analogue and isn't AI guided. I HOPE THEY LISTENED. i think they listened to my moaning about keeper cursor anyway.
i think in controller config they still give you the option to allow the click for manual passing. at least i think they do in 2009 (although manual passing has been no good since PES6). without the click, passing is far more difficult because you can't aim before applying power, you have to judge both instantly.i started to train my manual passes in WE6 and i mastered it in WE7. i played with national champs and they always been amazed how i can do superb pass, even superb goal (lob the keeper from 30 yards or do a beckham-goal from 50 yard when the keeper is not there from doing a clearence), and also a heel foot goal when the player is not looking the net.
PES, from 2008 screw it up by making the pass faster and more ground, the opposite player can always cut my manual pass (or O pass) by head, and if i passed it more high, the ball will be too long and can't stop (every professional footballer can always stop the ball by adding some spin when he pass the ball).
that too-ground-shit was even tamed by me by adding R2 to long manual passes.
and now in PES2010 they change the method again and remove the option to make R3 necesary to press. now we must only use right stick to do manual pass (type 2 in option), but i prefer type 1 (with R3), and now konami make L1+R3 manual keeper! i'm frustated...
oh and konami still didn't fix the freekick shit. it's when you take a FK and the opposite player can have his player stand just right in front of the net. it's ridiculus, real players won't do that
Whilst getting humped 9-0 in the process.
The problem with manual passes in past iterations of Pes is that simply weren't really all that manual. For a start, you are stuck with only 8 possible directions but in PES 2009 this is more like 4 directions as most of the time the diagonal stick flick will not register.
In short, the manual pass is a clumsy poorly implemented 'addition' to the game which albeit, does have its uses and as Neokubrik has pointed out, some nefarious game wrecking uses at that. I never knew about the Long Ball Type 5 exploit but I certainly used to take huge revenge on the cut-back queens in PES 2008 with my long pass goals from practically the half way line. This worked until Konami released a patch which simply nerfed the Long high manual pass from a certain area of the field.
If you had played FIFA, you would be in no doubt that using the left stick to implement a first touch control is by far the best thing that the left stick could be used for in footie game. This is somethign which FIFA really has got spot on and hopefully PES will imitate just as FIFA has matched and beaen PES by essentially copying the PES game engine to a great extent but then improving upon it.