The official "WE7:I Japan" impressions thread

[snoref]

Can someone with WE7I-Jap tell me whether WE7I-jap is worth paying for..are the upgrades from WE7 worth it or is there not much noticable difference between WE7 and WE7I-jap?

 

[Foxhound]

NOTE:the all star teams are not in winning eleven 7 i japanese version

 

[Winning 11]

Can someone with WE7I-Jap tell me whether WE7I-jap is worth paying for..are the upgrades from WE7 worth it or is there not much noticable difference between WE7 and WE7I-jap?

well here are the things I`ve heard about WE7I-Jap

+ the gameplay seems slower, and passing is faster
+ it`s hard to dribble, the game is focused more on passing
+ advantage rule has improved, and refs are better aswell.
+ the game supports english,spanish,italian,french,german and japanese.
+ some people say graphics are somewhat better than in WE7.
+ there`s 1 new stadium, and stadium names can be edited.
+ keeper`s outfits can be edited aswell.
+ only major trades from season 03/04..
+ crosses are better and headers are too.

That`s about it..so if you want those things above that you didn`t have in WE7 then you can buy the game for $64.90US Dollars, but if you don`t need this then getting WE7I-Japan is pointless.

 

[spiceaddict]

Too much offense

I jus played this one and all I can say is this game sux!!
Konami add so many BS, unnecessary, worse and unrealistic changes!!


Anyone else agree with John311?

I've only played WE7:I (Japan) a few times but it seems they've sacrificed a lot of realism for a little excitement. It's way too easy to score. So far I've had a bunch of exciting 3-2 and 4-3 games but I drop my nuts every time some average winger gets space, cause there's nothing my defenders can do against the pinpoint cross that comes screaming in. Even double teamed guys often get a decent crack at the ball. And I've seen about one corner kick headed in every game. That's just crazy. Not to mention the ludicrous amounts of space forwards find in the box.

WE7 (Japan) was maybe a little too defensive (especially the AI) but when you scored you could celebrate. Now you have to worry about popping in 3 more just to have a chance. Its hard to criticize the best footie game ever (after only a day of playing) but clearly Konami has overcompensated. Has anyone figured out how to play some decent defense so hard core gamer/football purists can get back to those 1-0 and 2-0 battles?

 

[Waiting For Incoming]

Please can someone answer this question, I have the Japanese version of WE7I, I found this info about the game at lik-sang and some of the stuff that it says are not on my one like attach attitudes in 4 directions, is that when you put the directional arrows on a player in formation>individual>attack? Also whats this montage function where you can create any type of face, it seems to be the same as the WE7 or PES3?? Read Below I got it from lik-sang.


The world's best players are in the game with real names. Your own world cup on your own TV!!

Attack Attitudes can now be selected up 4 directions, and 4 levels. Enjoy the detailed tactics in your team.

Player animations and ball physics has been enhanced...and greatly!!

Take part in the WEFA Championship, and aim to become Europe's strongest club team.

Referees now might take "Advantage calls", according to the situation. You can feel the real atmosphere of a football match.

EDIT mode has gotten better!! The "Montage function" allows you to create any type of face!!

 

[Cellini]

Won't the difficuty level (1*to 5*) alter the gameplay for different people.

My first game on 3* I beat Juve 3-1 with Barcalona. (Davids still has to be swapped over). Then I got beat 3-1 on 5* playing as Parma against Marsielle or Bologna. And scratched out a 0-0 on 4* playing Roma against Lazio.

I wouldn't be too harsh until I've had it a week or two, getting used to the controls. I think players gameplay does change as they learn the range of passing, dribbling and shooting that's possible in this version of the game.

If all else fails, and a common consensus emerges about flawed ratings (passing & heading speed too high compared to dribble speed?) then option files will probably start coming out to balance things up.

 

[larsson]

WE7 (Japan) was maybe a little too defensive (especially the AI) but when you scored you could celebrate. Now you have to worry about popping in 3 more just to have a chance. Its hard to criticize the best footie game ever (after only a day of playing) but clearly Konami has overcompensated. Has anyone figured out how to play some decent defense so hard core gamer/football purists can get back to those 1-0 and 2-0 battles?

Can´t agree. Don´t blame the game if you can´t control it
I admit that I got stuck on 4*, 10 mins games, I win about 5-6 matches out of 10, but very rarely score more than 2 goals. I would say there are 3 goals per match on the average, for both teams together.
I reached the WC final yesterday with Argentina and scored 20 goals, let 8 in, in 7 matches, but there is a 4-0 against Saudi Arabia in the preliminary round included

 

[rip-soldier]

there is a patch out for we7i(jap) with real kits..
i opened a topic in the editing section..
http://forum.pesinsight.com/showthread.php?t=7420

 

[John311]

well I do live in US now but before I lived in China for 19 yrs, so my English is very limited. anyway, I play WE series from WE3 and didn't miss a single installment. but IMHO WE7I is a step backward (with WE3's pass and long range shot, WE4's dirbbling) sure those additional animations are coo but they can't change the gameplay. I can tell by far this is the 2nd easiest WE I played, the passing turn to be very likely to FIFA(accurate, fast), the shot/header become so easy, the comp defenders are so stupid, everybody is so slow and weak(body wise), this is not the "perfect" WE I was looking for, so Im going back to play WE7, peace.

 

[Winning 11]

well I do live in US now but before I lived in China for 19 yrs, so my English is very limited. anyway, I play WE series from WE3 and didn't miss a single installment. but IMHO WE7I is a step backward (with WE3's pass and long range shot, WE4's dirbbling) sure those additional animations are coo but they can't change the gameplay. I can tell by far this is the 2nd easiest WE I played, the passing turn to be very likely to FIFA(accurate, fast), the shot/header become so easy, the comp defenders are so stupid, everybody is so slow and weak(body wise), this is not the "perfect" WE I was looking for, so Im going back to play WE7, peace.

Larsson, GFK, do you agree with this. ??

 

[larsson]

no, like I said, I don´t agree, and it´s harder than WE7, at least for me

 

[rip-soldier]

there is one thing thats irritating me a bit about the game, it seems that every player has a powerfull shot now.. i scored many great and beautifull long distance goals in the few days that i'm playing this game, even with the most 'unknown' players in the game..?? never scored so many in we7 in such a short period. I score them sometimes in we7, this afternoon i scored a great shot from about 30m with Zidane in we7, but eeeey, ZIDANE thats a great player, he can do it, and then again you need some luck with such a shot, just as in real life.

And players seem to fall on the ground for no reason, verry verry irri.

btw, i agree on SOME points John311 said..

Still a great game tho.

 

[larsson]

I think shots are far better than in We7, where almost every shot was blocked and it was almost impossible to score from 30m, even with players like Becks or Zidane, it happened sometimes, but mostly because of the keepers stupidity and not because of the shot technique and power. I mean, when I´m watchin Premier League I see at least 2 or 3 long distance goals per gameday, even from average players. You really think that an average player can´t score from 25-30m ?
Also the players falling is realistic I think, they just slip, that´s normal, happens sometimes, I even got a penalty for a diver , but since this situations happen very rarely it´s ok to me.
2 other things are negative for me, but I´ve posted that already, the passing is a little bit to fast, it takes some time till you get used to it, and the teams play a little bit to offensive IMO, they´re using pressing almost all the time, it´s harder to built up a game, you have to be quicker, otherwise you´ll lose the ball.

 

[rip-soldier]

I think shots are far better than in We7, where almost every shot was blocked and it was almost impossible to score from 30m, even with players like Becks or Zidane, it happened sometimes, but mostly because of the keepers stupidity and not because of the shot technique and power. I mean, when I´m watchin Premier League I see at least 2 or 3 long distance goals per gameday, even from average players. You really think that an average player can´t score from 25-30m ?
Also the players falling is realistic I think, they just slip, that´s normal, happens sometimes, I even got a penalty for a diver , but since this situations happen very rarely it´s ok to me.
2 other things are negative for me, but I´ve posted that already, the passing is a little bit to fast, it takes some time till you get used to it, and the teams play a little bit to offensive IMO, they´re using pressing almost all the time, it´s harder to built up a game, you have to be quicker, otherwise you´ll lose the ball.

Ok it was hard to score a goal from 30m+ in we7, but it was possible, this afternoon i scored a FANTASTIC goal with Zidane, an no, it was no mistake by the keeper, it just was a great powerfull shot that went in via the bar in the top corner.
another thing is crosses, crosses are improved in we7i, you can give fantastic realistic crosses in we7i, BUT again, it seems that almost every player now can give fantastic beckham like crosses, in we7 crosses were a lot harder and most of the time the crosses went too high, but what i liked about we7 was that players who were left feeted could not give a good cross with their right feet, the ball went way wide when they try to do it with their weak feet. i felt that it was pretty realistic..
but what i noticed in we7i is that even when a player gives a cross with their weak feet the cross is almost always still perfect, bit unrealistic if you ask me. i dont agree with your opinion on the 'players just fall' point. they fall too often if you ask me, i was playing a game yesterday and i gave a long ball too one of my forwards, he fell.. when i pushed start to wach the replay, i wanted to know why he fell, i saw that BOTH of my forwards fell at the same time.. well, maybe the pitch was slippy??? don't know.

I agree with your last points..

But the game is great because now you can play some nice football because of the new passing system witch is a uber great system, i don't mean the speed by that but it feels as if you got more control over your passes now. I love the way your forwards move in this game, they seeke space much much better.

 

[larsson]

Ok it was hard to score a goal from 30m+ in we7, but it was possible, this afternoon i scored a FANTASTIC goal with Zidane, an no, it was no mistake by the keeper, it just was a great powerfull shot that went in via the bar in the top corner.

Only had a few long distance goals in WE7, and I played it since August, I think it was a little bit unrealistic, also the COM didn´t score. Now it´s very cool I think, play around 10 matches daily (10 mins, 4*) and score one long distance goal in those matches. Well, if you´re a WE7 god it may be unrealistic, but for normal players the amount of long distance goals is just perfect

another thing is crosses, crosses are improved in we7i, you can give fantastic realistic crosses in we7i, BUT again, it seems that almost every player now can give fantastic beckham like crosses, in we7 crosses were a lot harder and most of the time the crosses went too high, but what i liked about we7 was that players who were left feeted could not give a good cross with their right feet, the ball went way wide when they try to do it with their weak feet. i felt that it was pretty realistic..
but what i noticed in we7i is that even when a player gives a cross with their weak feet the cross is almost always still perfect, bit unrealistic if you ask me.

That´s a matter of personal taste I suppose, actually crosses and headers were the most annoiyng part of WE7, and I´m not saying it only now, I did already in my WE7 review a few months ago
I love the crosses in WE7:I, a lot of players can play beatiful crosses with their weak foot in real footie, still you can change stats if you feel it´s not realistic, just decrease the long shot accuracy and speed+ weak foot accuracy and frequency, I modify the stats in every WE version, which takes me always whole days.

i dont agree with your opinion on the 'players just fall' point. they fall too often if you ask me, i was playing a game yesterday and i gave a long ball too one of my forwards, he fell.. when i pushed start to wach the replay, i wanted to know why he fell, i saw that BOTH of my forwards fell at the same time.. well, maybe the pitch was slippy??? don't know.

Well, that´s indeed bad luck , I scored one goal so far because of the last defender slipping, and I saw 1 or 2 penalties after divers, so I think, that´s only from my personal experience, the amount of this slippings and divers is realistic. If it would happen all the time that would be indeed crappy
Often players fall before corners, but it happens also in real life. Although it looks not so stupid in a real match

I love the way your forwards move in this game, they seeke space much much better.

Yes, that´s really a huge improvement, you can play perfect through passes now, but you need some skill and experience for that. I also like it that you can clear the ball perfectly after corners now, no ping pong situations in the box anymore

 

[Winning 11]

I should be playing WE7I-Jap tomorrow, so expect my own personal WE7I-Jap review.

 

[GFK]

I should be playing WE7I-Jap tomorrow, so expect my own personal WE7I-Jap review.

Im curious...

Larsson, GFK, do you agree with this. ??

And no I dont agree, WE7I is definately a step FORWARDS, its not easy at all im still playing at 4 * although Im getting better in it. Sometimes I still lose with 2-3 for example, so its definaltely harder. And Im sure you will think the same way.

 

[Zygalski]

Is WE7:IJ running on 60Hz?

I like the game and it seems like 5* is harder than 5* on all the previous versions.
I've played quite a few matches on it now. I have lost one match in 10 to the CPU on 5* and don't concede many goals. 2-player games are all wins for me, partly due to the opposition not adapting to the new style of play required in the game. Maybe soon....

 

[larsson]

All NTSC games are running at 60 Hz.

 

[Paolo]

Has anyone got any footage of the new game (goals or normal play)? I'd like to see the new passing speed in action, and the off-the-ball movement of the forwards.