The Ultimate Classic Player Thread

[YV84]

Krookwk, i saw this creation of John Charles, and i fell that he was overrated too(even if he was an incredible and wonderful player, for me in the top 10 of football history) but i thought that you can try to do it more realistic(i tried but like you i haven't many information).

 

[tom pain]

Krookwk, i saw this creation of John Charles, and i fell that he was overrated too(even if he was an incredible and wonderful player, for me in the top 10 of football history) but i thought that you can try to do it more realistic(i tried but like you i haven't many information).

I'm guessing your referring to mine. Well put it this way: I've read his aytobiography 4 times, read countless articles on him and seen plenty of clips. Of course it's hard to create a player you've never seen play but consider this: he was voted the greatest foreign player to play in Serie A. Ahead of Platini, Van Basten, Maradona and Zidane.

 

[Krook]

The legend John Charles

The only stats I think should be revised would be his defence and his agility.

This all depends on whether you created him to make as much impact in the modern game, as he did back in the 50's/60's? Do you think he would be rated the same if he was playing now? That's my argument.

Also did he play all those positions? I've read he plied his trade at centre-half and centre-forward, but I didn't know he was a wing forward as well.

Either way, he was a great player and it's a shame there's not much footage of him in action.

 

[Krook]

That's alot of classics!

I know you're already working on some of these, but here's the first installment of my suggestion list.

That's a long list, beasley17!

There are many there that I intend to create, but not even half of those have I even looked into. But if I continue to create at the rate I am, it will only be a matter of time before most of them will be done.

If I request any pictures or information about these other players, will you be able to give it? (No worries if you can't)

Anyway just keep on an eye on this thread.

 

[Krook]

Heard of him?

Here's another.....

Bernard VUKAS
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Info:

Voted 71st in the 250 greatest european players of all time

Description:

Born in Zagreb, he won the title three times with Hajduk Split in the 1950s and scored 300 goals in 615 outings, later joining Bologna. Captained Yugoslavia, winning 69 caps.

Name: Vukas

Position: CF*
Nation: Croatia

Basic-

Age: 28
Foot: R
Constit: A
F Kick: A
Pen: A
Goal C1: 16

Appearance-

Head-
Skin Col: 1
Face: 229
Colour1: 1
Colour2: Light Blue 1

Hairstyle-
Type: Very Short 2
Shape: 1
Front: 9

Hair Colour-
Type: 12

Facial Hair-
Type: 92
Colour: Same as hair

Physique-
Height: 170
Weight: 70
Body: 5

Strip Fit-
Sleeves: Seasonal
Socks: 2

Ability-
Attack: 90
Defence: 42
Balance: 77
Stamina: 84
Top Sp: 80
Accele: 86
Respnse: 93
Agility: 85
Drib Acc: 83
Drib Spd: 80
S-P Acc: 76
S-P Spd: 74
L-P Acc: 72
L-P Spd: 73
Sht Acc: 94
Sht Pwr: 80
Sht Tech:92
F Kick: 70
Curling: 68
Header: 84
Jump: 82
Techniq: 87
Aggress: 90
Mental: 85
Consist: 7
Kp Skill: 50
Tm Wrk: 75
Condit: 7
Wk Acc: 5
Wk Freq: 5

Special Ability-
Positioning *
Reaction *
Scoring *
1-1 Scoring *

To play 615 games (Maldini has only played 530+ for Milan) AND score 300 goals is not a bad record at all!

I have plenty more to come, but post other legends (that don't appear on other threads) you think should be included in this thread.

 

[YV84]

hello huys,

krookwk continue your creation i like them very very much

to answer to tom pain, i want to say to you that i've created many classic player just reading some information or stat about them on internet and i know taht it's hard to do a player. but don't worry about John Charles, i've creating him with your stat ( lol!) because i like him very much and because he was a fabulous player, and like Krookwk said, who will come here and say to us that the stat are wrong, nobody.

so, will this thread has a long life and that the creation continue(maybe i will post some player created by me and my french friends, classic legend who are not mentionned here or in pes(and there is a lot!!)

bye

 

[Krook]

To your point, YV84. As long as people creating these players take a bit of time and consideration into bringing life to these players, then this is the whole point to the thread. May it have a long life.

Saying that, I would not mind others giving their opinion on any of my creations, or stats & info you may think I have got wrong.

Also YV84 post your list of players you and others have created, myself & others may be interested.

 

[beasley17]

I can give you photos. Are there particular players you'd like me to start off with, or should I just post photos as I find them?

Also, I already requested stats for a number of classic players on the German site http://pes-x.de/, and the users there (plumbum, sol, and mxbirthdefect) created them for me -- a lot of German and Italian players. If you like, I can post those here.

 

[Gerd_Muller]

I can give you photos. Are there particular players you'd like me to start off with, or should I just post photos as I find them?

Also, I already requested stats for a number of classic players on the German site http://pes-x.de/, and the users there (plumbum, sol, and mxbirthdefect) created them for me -- a lot of German and Italian players. If you like, I can post those here.

thx for that site

 

[Krook]

I can give you photos. Are there particular players you'd like me to start off with, or should I just post photos as I find them?

Also, I already requested stats for a number of classic players on the German site http://pes-x.de/, and the users there (plumbum, sol, and mxbirthdefect) created them for me -- a lot of German and Italian players. If you like, I can post those here.

Yeh if you can, they're might be a few that I was going to create, so that would save me some time. The more players that feature on the thread the better I say.

At the moment I've got plenty that I wanna do first, so I'll give you a shout about some photos soon. Cheers.

To the point of the post, I'm currently creating Allan SIMONSEN, Florian ALBERT & Danny BRANCHFLOWER, but info is limited. If anyone has any idea on these players, e.g. strongest parts to their game, please let me know. I can post early drafts of these players if you want to give me an opinion on them. Thanks.

 

[YV84]

hello everybody,

Krookwk you're right for Vukas, he's croatian (look here, good site for the nationality and height/weight of legend http://web1.fussball-liveticker.de/weltfussball/spieler_profil.php?id=31875 )

I can post here players like: *Hector RIAL(real madrid of glorious 50-60's)
*Ladislao KUBALA(Fc Barcelona of 60's, THE legend in the FCB)
* SANTAMARIA(defender of glorious Real Madrid 60's)
* ZITO(midfielder of Brazil 58(symphony with Didi) and Glorious Santos of Pele )

say me if someone want one of them i will post it in the next days

 

[Krook]

if someone want one of them i will post it in the next days

Those players I intended to create so If you post them that will save me time. No rush.

Cheers for the Vukas info, I have edited the post accordingly, (the height and weight are the hardest to get right) thanks.

 

[Krook]

Paul McGrath & Steve Staunton

Beasley17, as I'm a Villa fan I have already created some classic players that played for them, Paul McGrath & Steve Staunton. So here you go!

Paul MCGRATH
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Name: McGrath

Position: CBT*
Nation: Ireland

Basic-

Age: 29
Foot: R
Constit: A
F Kick: A
Pen: A

Appearance-

Head-
Skin Col: 3
Face: 15
Colour1: 1
Colour2: Brown 2

Hairstyle-
Type: Very Short 2
Shape: 3
Front: 1

Hair Colour-
Type: 9

Facial Hair-
Type: 116
Colour: Same as hair

Physique-
Height: 182
Weight: 85
Body: 7

Strip Fit-
Sleeves: Seasonal
Socks: 2

Ability-
Attack: 44
Defence: 87
Balance: 90
Stamina: 85
Top Sp: 68
Accele: 70
Respnse: 88
Agility: 67
Drib Acc: 66
Drib Spd: 64
S-P Acc: 69
S-P Spd: 68
L-P Acc: 66
L-P Spd: 64
Sht Acc: 68
Sht Pwr: 78
Sht Tech:65
F Kick: 62
Curling: 60
Header: 80
Jump: 78
Techniq: 70
Aggress: 58
Mental: 86
Consist: 8
Kp Skill: 50
Tm Wrk: 80
Condit: 7
Wk Acc: 4
Wk Freq: 4

Special Ability-
D-Line Control *


Steve STAUNTON
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Name: Staunton

Position: SB*, CBT
Nation: Ireland

Basic-

Age: 27
Foot: L
Constit: A
F Kick: A
Pen: A

Appearance-

Head-
Skin Col: 1
Face: 167
Colour1: 1
Colour2: Light blue 1

Hairstyle-
Type: Straight 1
Shape: 1
Front: 8
Volume: 1

Hair Colour-
Type: 19

Physique-
Height: 183
Weight: 68
Body: 5

Strip Fit-
Sleeves: Seasonal
Socks: 2

Ability-
Attack: 70
Defence: 84
Balance: 83
Stamina: 85
Top Sp: 80
Accele: 76
Respnse: 78
Agility: 70
Drib Acc: 75
Drib Spd: 73
S-P Acc: 68
S-P Spd: 70
L-P Acc: 67
L-P Spd: 72
Sht Acc: 69
Sht Pwr: 87
Sht Tech:66
F Kick: 68
Curling: 69
Header: 76
Jump: 81
Techniq: 70
Aggress: 68
Mental: 76
Consist: 6
Kp Skill: 50
Tm Wrk: 80
Condit: 5
Wk Acc: 5
Wk Freq: 5

Special Ability-
Side *

2 down, many more to go!

 

[Krook]

Boniek / Deyna

Beasley17, I noticed Boniek & Deyna on your list, so for you & others here they are. Someone had already created them for Pro Evo 3 and I updated it, so here is what I have for them.

Zbigniew BONIEK
------------------

Info:

Voted 35th in the 250 greatest european players of all time

Description:

Juventus had to spend £1.1M to prise Poland's greatest player from Widzew Lodz, but in return won the European Cup and the Cup-Winners' Cup, Boniek scoring the winner in the latter. He starred in three World Cups, but was at his peak as Poland reached the semi-finals in 1982.

Name: Boniek

Position: SMF*, OMF, CMF
Nation: Poland

Basic-

Age: 26
Foot: L
Constit: A
F Kick: B
Pen: A
Goal C1: 16

Appearance-

Head-
Skin Col: 1
Face: 157
Colour1: 1
Colour2: Brown 2

Hairstyle-
Type: Curly 1
Shape: 2
Front: 5
Volume: 2
Hair Colour-
Type: 12

Facial Hair-
Type: 24
Colour: Same As Hair

Physique-
Height: 191
Weight: 76
Body: 5

Strip Fit-
Sleeves: Seasonal
Socks: 2

Ability-
Attack: 90
Defence: 58
Balance: 72
Stamina: 95
Top Sp: 86
Accele: 91
Respnse: 87
Agility: 85
Drib Acc: 88
Drib Spd: 90
S-P Acc: 86
S-P Spd: 87
L-P Acc: 84
L-P Spd: 86
Sht Acc: 91
Sht Pwr: 87
Sht Tech:90
F Kick: 82
Curling: 86
Header: 85
Jump: 81
Techniq: 90
Aggress: 88
Mental: 95
Consist: 8
Kp Skill: 50
Tm Wrk: 87
Condit: 7
Wk Acc: 7
Wk Freq: 6

Special Ability-

Dribbling *
Post Player *
Playmaking *
Both Feet Feint *
1-1 Scoring *
Outside *


Kazimierz DEYNA
------------------

Info:

Voted 100th in the 250 greatest european players of all time

Description:

Catalyst for Poland's coming of age in the 1970s, finishing third in the 1974 World Cup. His 1978 transfer fee to Manchester City rumoured to be £110, plus office equipment.

Name: Deyna

Position: CMF*, OMF
Nation: Poland

Basic-

Age: 27
Foot: R
Constit: B
F Kick: E
Pen: A
Goal C1: 33

Appearance-

Head-
Skin Col: 1
Face: 142
Colour1: 1
Colour2: Black 2

Hairstyle-
Type: Straight 2
Shape: 1
Front: 6
Volume: 2

Hair Colour-
Type: 9

Physique-
Height: 180
Weight: 77
Body: 5

Strip Fit-
Sleeves: Seasonal
Socks: 2

Ability-
Attack: 88
Defence: 68
Balance: 74
Stamina: 77
Top Sp: 83
Accele: 86
Respnse: 85
Agility: 87
Drib Acc: 95
Drib Spd: 90
S-P Acc: 92
S-P Spd: 89
L-P Acc: 97
L-P Spd: 95
Sht Acc: 86
Sht Pwr: 84
Sht Tech:94
F Kick: 96
Curling: 97
Header: 83
Jump: 80
Techniq: 96
Aggress: 82
Mental: 94
Consist: 6
Kp Skill: 50
Tm Wrk: 94
Condit: 6
Wk Acc: 7
Wk Freq: 7

Special Ability-

Dribbling *
Post Player *
Playmaking *
Passing *
Both Feet Feint *
Penalties *
Outside *

Boniek is supposed to be in PES 5 so it'll be interesting to see how closely they rate him to this.

 

[Krook]

Allan Simonsen

Allan SIMONSEN
-----------------

Info:

Voted 72nd in the 250 greatest european players of all time

Description:

Was named European footballer of the year in 1977 and was at his prime for Monchengladbach and Barcelona. Even had a brief spell at Charlton.

Name: Simonsen

Position: CMF*, OMF
Nation: Denmark

Basic-

Age: 25
Foot: R
Constit: A
F Kick: A
Pen: A
Goal C1: 7

Appearance-

Head-
Skin Col: 1
Face: 19
Colour1: 1
Colour2: Brown 2

Hairstyle-
Type: Curly 1
Shape: 3
Front: 5
Volume: 3

Hair Colour-
Type: 12

Physique-
Height: 176
Weight: 74
Body: 5

Strip Fit-
Sleeves: Seasonal
Socks: 2

Ability-
Attack: 86
Defence: 56
Balance: 78
Stamina: 84
Top Sp: 86
Accele: 92
Respnse: 85
Agility: 82
Drib Acc: 92
Drib Spd: 81
S-P Acc: 92
S-P Spd: 90
L-P Acc: 85
L-P Spd: 83
Sht Acc: 84
Sht Pwr: 80
Sht Tech:82
F Kick: 76
Curling: 80
Header: 74
Jump: 75
Techniq: 91
Aggress: 86
Mental: 80
Consist: 6
Kp Skill: 50
Tm Wrk: 85
Condit: 6
Wk Acc: 6
Wk Freq: 7

Special Ability-

Dribbling *
Reaction *
Scoring *
Both Feet Feint *
Outside *

 

[Krook]

Florian Albert - A true legend!

Florian ALBERT
----------------

Info:

Voted 74th in the 250 greatest european players of all time.

Description:

Played for the Ferencvaros team that beat Juventus in the 1965 Fairs Cup Final. Outwitted Pele's Brazil in 1966 World Cup, European footballer of the year in 1967.

Name: Albert

Position: CF*, OMF
Nation: Hungary

Basic-

Age: 26
Foot: R
Constit: A
F Kick: D
Pen: A
Goal C1: 12

Appearance-

Head-
Skin Col: 1
Face: 199
Colour1: 1
Colour2: Light Blue 1

Hairstyle-
Type: Very Short 2
Shape: 1
Front: 3

Hair Colour-
Type: 10

Facial Hair-
Type: 28
Colour: 4

Physique-
Height: 186
Weight: 76
Body: 4

Strip Fit-
Sleeves: Seasonal
Socks: 2

Ability-
Attack: 92
Defence: 43
Balance: 82
Stamina: 85
Top Sp: 80
Accele: 90
Respnse: 88
Agility: 85
Drib Acc: 96
Drib Spd: 84
S-P Acc: 92
S-P Spd: 90
L-P Acc: 86
L-P Spd: 85
Sht Acc: 92
Sht Pwr: 87
Sht Tech:95
F Kick: 90
Curling: 85
Header: 75
Jump: 80
Techniq: 93
Aggress: 95
Mental: 81
Consist: 7
Kp Skill: 50
Tm Wrk: 85
Condit: 6
Wk Acc: 6
Wk Freq: 6

Special Ability-

Dribbling *
Scoring *
Playmaking *
1-1 Scoring *
1 Touch Pass *
Outside *

This guy was a legend but as each year goes by he gets less recognition. Anyone seen his goal he scored against Brazil in '66?

 

[YV84]

Hello,

I will post 2 players today, the both Real Madrid Legend: Santamaria and Rial
i want to say that all of the players that i will post here are made by myself or by my Friends(a special dedicate to the big creator of them Buchwald and the german specialist Kilybrazzo), so all the indication are in french si if i forget to translate one of them say me.

And Krookwk, I think about a legend rarely mentionned who is maybe the best polish player of all time: Wilimowski (who scored 4 times against Brazil in the WC 1954(i think?), if you van create him it wil be great...

 

[YV84]

Jose Emilio SANTAMARIA

He was in the legendary team of the great Real Madrid in the 50-60's

Nationality: Uruguay (then spanish like Di Stefano, Kubala and many other...)
CB*/DMF
28 years old
Foot: right

Building Face:
skin1
19 3 -3
4 0 -1 0 1 1 blue 2
3 -1 0
1
3 -1 +1 -1
1 0 +1

straight 1 1 14 1
coul 18

178cm-68kg
morpho 3
Head: +2/0
neck +2


40
89
92
77
77
76
78
76
67
66
70
72
71
73
68
75
68
63
59
84
88
68
79
88
6
50
67
6
4
4
marking; d-line control

 

[YV84]

Hector Rial

Hector RIAL
he was in the great Real Madrid of the 50's-60's too, the perfect plus for Gento
Nationality: Argentina (then Spanish)
30years old
Foot; left
OMF*/SMF/CMF

building face
skin1
3 3 -3
11 0 -1 -1 2 brown 1
3 0 0
2
3 0 0 0
1 -2 +1

straight1 1 2 2
coul 11

176cm-78kg
head +4/-3

80
63
76
77
80
81
85
81
80
78
88
89
94
91
90
86
89
88
90
90
88
88
86
90
7
50
96
6
4
4

leader,passing,pass ss ctrl, centre, outisde

Zito and Kubala will be post in the next few days

 

[Krook]

Wilimowski

This is a picture of Ernest Wilimowski.

Damn! I thought Peter Beardsley was ugly!