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The Ultimate Classic Player Thread

YV84

YV84

Registered User
Hello Krookwk and the others,

How are you?

i repeat myself but your player are excellent, continue. Just to know you will update Schnellinger (absent in PES5), he's important for my future Milan ac of the 60's.

This is a link to a site with flag and emblem, particularly classic emblem (inetressant to do the classic jersey) and for example the old adidas logo:

http://www.sakax2.com/sakax2_html/nm_grid.html

bye
 
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beasley17

Registered User
Krookwk said:
As for the goal celebrations, I decided not to include them this time. The main reason was to give the players more personality but all players (bar Alan Shearer) celebrate differently when they score anyway. That is the reason, although maybe I will include them if requested.

How long do you have to wait to get PES5/WE9 beasley?
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I also find that the goal celebrations help give the players personality, and I'm still mildly irritated that I had to edit Hugo Sanchez in PES4 to make him do that forward flip after a goal. Don't break your back to find them, but if you know about certain players who like to celebrate certain ways, let us know, too.

To answer your question, the last two versions of Winning Eleven reached the U.S. in early February, so I'd expect this next one in about three months.
 
Krook

Krook

Ex-Classic Creator
Johnny HAYNES
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Description:

Voted 192nd in the 250 greatest european players of all time, he was the £100-a-week player who was loyal to Fulham for 18 years. Johnny Haynes also played for England in the 50's/60's and caused chaos in the Scotland defence when England won 9-3 and struck a hat trick against the Soviets in 1958.

Player Name-

Name: Haynes

Basic Settings-

Age: 25
Dom. Foot: R
Injury: A
Drib. Style: 4
F Kick: 1
Pen: 1
Growth Type: Standard

Position-

Fav. Side: L&R
AMF*, SS

Nationality: England

Appearance-
Head-
Face: Build Face
Skin Col: 1
Head H: +5
Head W: -1
Position: 0

Brows: 7/-2/-3/-2
Eyes: 11/0/-3/0/0/1/Brown 2
Nose: 1/-2/+3
Cheeks: 6/+1
Mouth: 5/+3/0
Jaw: 8/-2/+1

Hairstyle-
Type: Special
Shape: 208

Hair Colour-
Type: Pattern
Pattern: 10

Physique-
Height: 176
Weight: 70
Body: 3
Neck L: -1
Neck W: +2

Accessories-
Sleeves: Auto
Socks: 2

Ability-
Attack: 87
Defence: 53
Balance: 72
Stamina: 86
Top Sp: 77
Accele: 80
Respnse: 82
Agility: 76
Drib Acc: 85
Drib Spd: 81
S-P Acc: 96
S-P Spd: 91
L-P Acc: 98
L-P Spd: 93
Sht Acc: 82
Sht Pwr: 87
Sht Tech:80
F Kick: 73
Curling: 71
Header: 76
Jump: 74
Techniq: 85
Aggress: 80
Mental: 88
Kp Skill: 50
Tm Wrk: 95
Consist: 7
Condit: 6
Wk Acc: 6
Wk Freq: 6

Special Ability-

Positioning *
Playmaking *
Passing *
Post Player *
Centre *
1-Touch Pass *
 
Krook

Krook

Ex-Classic Creator
It was only right that my first newly created player would be Johnny Haynes.

R.I.P.
 
silomaen

silomaen

Registered User
I found out an improvement in pes5 from pes4: it's much easier to create classic teams!
U just use the "My best eleven" feature in Master League and you can save a team of classic players, and their original stats stay the same. It only takes about 80 kb on your memory card, so you can create dozens of teams.

In pes 4, when you did the same, the stats of the classic players would go back to when they were 17... basically they would suck ass.

I use 2 memory cards with identical option files, and then I use the second memory card to create teams with(I can just transfer players to e.g. real madrid and start master league, save my best eleven, and quit. Then i can use that team on the other mem card)...

So now I wondered if someone could help me out to fill in the gaps in the squad list for the different teams I wanna create.

Here are my suggestions for 2 teams(not complete):

Classic Real Madrid:
F. Hierro
Di stefano
Gento
M. Laudrup
Bernd Schuster?
Haller
Michel ?
Didi
W. Samuel
Anelka
Seedorf
Makelele
Illgner
Hugo Sanchez
Raymond Kopa ?
Samuel Etoo
Redondo
Suker
Butragueno
Owen
Mijatovic

Classic Barcelona:
luis enrique
lineker
p. andersson
m. laudrup
neeskens
hagi
maradona
ronaldo
figo
zubizarreta
Bernd Schuster?
romario
stoichkov
dani
kiko
vitor baia
rivaldo
guardiola
fabregas
r. koeman
cruyff
bakero
beguiristain
babangida
kluivert

I mostly use players that are already in the game, since I'm not really good at appearences or stats.
I'm also working on a classic version of: Ajax, Milan, PSV, Juve, Inter, bayern, arsenal, Man u, Liverpool, lazio, dortmund, spurs.
Or perhaps: best of world cup 90, world cup 94, best of east-europe.. and so on... the possibilities are endless...

If we could somehow create a good list for each team, and create the players that are missing from the game, we could make this game just a little bit better for a lot of people.

So how about it guys?

Please comment...
 
B

beasley17

Registered User
Sounds terrific, though I'm not sure whether rosters for Classic Milan, Juve, Ajax, etc. should be on this thread or have its own separate thread. I'm leaning toward the latter, because I'm afraid that if we post lists for those teams, it'll give rise to arguments like whether Schuster and Laudrup should be on Classic Real or Barca, and that's not what this thread is for. Still, if it's that easy to create so many different kinds of all-star teams in PES5, that makes this thread even more helpful. And, as you mentioned, creating those classic club teams could help us on this thread in deciding which players to create next. My advice would be to post your classic rosters on your own thread (or better yet, revive one of the many old threads about those subjects) and then check back here and make recommendations about missing players. Having links between the threads would be great as well. Anyone else have any ideas?
 
Krook

Krook

Ex-Classic Creator
beasley17 said:
Sounds terrific, though I'm not sure whether rosters for Classic Milan, Juve, Ajax, etc. should be on this thread or have its own separate thread. I'm leaning toward the latter, because I'm afraid that if we post lists for those teams, it'll give rise to arguments like whether Schuster and Laudrup should be on Classic Real or Barca, and that's not what this thread is for. Still, if it's that easy to create so many different kinds of all-star teams in PES5, that makes this thread even more helpful. And, as you mentioned, creating those classic club teams could help us on this thread in deciding which players to create next. My advice would be to post your classic rosters on your own thread (or better yet, revive one of the many old threads about those subjects) and then check back here and make recommendations about missing players. Having links between the threads would be great as well. Anyone else have any ideas?
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Yeah totally agree with that. Although I do intend to have classic teams on the menu, the players come first and obviously when all the players are made will the classic teams be completed. But as it stands I want to recreate all my previous creations from PES4, only when that is done will I concentrate on classic teams.

While I welcome talk here about it, it may be better as beasley says to start a new thread. If we all agree I will start one or someone else can. It will be a great help having requests that I can add to my "to do list".

I think that as the two threads are to work together, shall I be the one to start a new thread? Let me know what you think.

Thanks Silomaen for the info. it's very useful.
 
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Gerd_Muller

Registered User
Hi Krookwk, the Haynes was a succes(spelling??) But do you realy think he should have more than 95 in passing+long passing??
 
Krook

Krook

Ex-Classic Creator
Gerd_Muller said:
Hi Krookwk, the Haynes was a succes(spelling??) But do you realy think he should have more than 95 in passing+long passing??
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His long passing was the best part to his game, for which I gave him a 98, one from perfect. And 95 for short passes maybe could be 96 or 97, but I didn't want to overrate him. I felt it was fair how I rated him. Feel free to change his stats if you don't agree but personally I wouldnt give him 99's for both long passes and short passes.
 
Krook

Krook

Ex-Classic Creator
Gerd_Muller said:
Have you more good players to post??:)
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Yeah, Bettega, Boniperti & Sivori. All three great Juventus players who were dropped from PES5.

I should have all the classic players dropped from PES5 done by the end of the weekend so then I can move on to the others.
 
Krook

Krook

Ex-Classic Creator
Giampiero BONIPERTI
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Description:

Named by Pelé as one of the top 125 greatest living footballers, Giampiero Boniperti was great winger and goal scorer for Italy and Juventus. For the latter, he played 444 games from 1946 to 1961.

Player Name-

Name: Boniperti

Basic Settings-

Age: 29
Dom. Foot: R
Injury: B
Drib. Style: 2
F Kick: 1
Pen: 1
Growth Type: Std/Lasting

Position-

Fav. Side: RS/RF
WF*, CF, SS, SMF

Nationality: Italy

Appearance-
Head-
Face: Build Face
Skin Col: 1
Head H: 0
Head W: -2
Position: 0

Brows: 10/-1/-1/0
Eyes: 11/0/-1/00/1/Light Blue 2
Nose: 7/+2/+1
Cheeks: 2/+2
Mouth: 6/+2/+1
Jaw: 8/0/+1

Hairstyle-
Type: Special
Shape: 208

Hair Colour-
Type: Pattern
Pattern: 13

Physique-
Height: 175
Weight: 77
Body: 2
Neck L: 0

Accessories-
Sleeves: Auto
Socks: 2

Ability-
Attack: 86
Defence: 52
Balance: 80
Stamina: 90
Top Sp: 88
Accele: 86
Respnse: 81
Agility: 80
Drib Acc: 84
Drib Spd: 82
S-P Acc: 83
S-P Spd: 74
L-P Acc: 77
L-P Spd: 78
Sht Acc: 85
Sht Pwr: 83
Sht Tech:84
F Kick: 64
Curling: 69
Header: 67
Jump: 70
Techniq: 84
Aggress: 80
Mental: 88
Kp Skill: 50
Tm Wrk: 72
Consist: 7
Condit: 8
Wk Acc: 5
Wk Freq: 5

Special Ability-

Passing *
Scoring *
Centre *
 
Krook

Krook

Ex-Classic Creator
Roberto BETTEGA
----------------------

Description:

Voted 148th in the 250 greatest european players of all time, a strong header of the ball with two good feet. He played for Juventus and starred in the 1978 World Cup, sadly he missed out on the '82 World Cup due to the injury, the tournament that Italy won that year. He scored 129 in 326 for Juventus & 19 in 42 for Italy.

Player Name-

Name: Bettega

Basic Settings-

Age: 28
Dom. Foot: R
Injury: C
Drib. Style: 1
F Kick: 1
Pen: 1
Growth Type: Standard

Position-

Fav. Side: L&R
CF*, SS

Nationality: Italy

Appearance-
Head-
Face: Build Face
Skin Col: 1
Head H: +1
Head W: -1
Position: 0

Brows: 13/-2/-3/-2
Eyes: 28/0/-3/+1/-2/2/Brown 2
Nose: 4/0/+1
Cheeks: 5/0
Mouth: 16/+2/0
Jaw: 2/-2/+1

Hairstyle-
Type: Special
Shape: 109

Hair Colour-
Type: Pattern
Pattern: 11

Physique-
Height: 184
Weight: 79
Body: 2
Neck L: -1
Neck W: +2

Accessories-
Sleeves: Auto
Socks: 2

Ability-
Attack: 90
Defence: 51
Balance: 74
Stamina: 78
Top Sp: 80
Accele: 85
Respnse: 96
Agility: 86
Drib Acc: 74
Drib Spd: 69
S-P Acc: 72
S-P Spd: 68
L-P Acc: 67
L-P Spd: 65
Sht Acc: 93
Sht Pwr: 85
Sht Tech:90
F Kick: 77
Curling: 68
Header: 95
Jump: 90
Techniq: 76
Aggress: 84
Mental: 87
Kp Skill: 50
Tm Wrk: 72
Consist: 5
Condit: 5
Wk Acc: 7
Wk Freq: 6

Special Ability-

Positioning *
Scoring *
1-Touch Pass *
 
Krook

Krook

Ex-Classic Creator
Omar Enrique SIVORI
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Description:

Voted 65th in the 250 greatest european players of all time, Sivori was a swaggering inside left who was adept at nutmegging. He with John Charles helped Juventus win three scudetti. On the international stage he represented Argentina 19 times until he switched nationality and played for Italy in the 1962 World Cup finals in Chile.

Player Name-

Name: Sivori

Basic Settings-

Age: 25
Dom. Foot: L
Injury: B
Drib. Style: 4
F Kick: 1
Pen: 1
Growth Type: Standard

Position-

Fav. Side: LS/LF
AMF*, SS, CF

Nationality: Italy

Appearance-
Head-
Face: Build Face
Skin Col: 1
Head H: +4
Head W: +3
Position: +3

Brows: 16/-2/-3/0
Eyes: 11/0/-3/-1/+1/2/Brown 2
Nose: 1/+1/+3
Cheeks: 5/+2
Mouth: 13/+1/0
Jaw: 2/-1/0

Hairstyle-
Type: Special
Shape: 229

Hair Colour-
Type: Pattern
Pattern: 11

Physique-
Height: 170
Weight: 71
Body: 2
Neck L: -1

Accessories-
Sleeves: Auto
Socks: 3

Ability-
Attack: 92
Defence: 46
Balance: 72
Stamina: 70
Top Sp: 88
Accele: 87
Respnse: 93
Agility: 85
Drib Acc: 94
Drib Spd: 90
S-P Acc: 85
S-P Spd: 80
L-P Acc: 83
L-P Spd: 76
Sht Acc: 90
Sht Pwr: 74
Sht Tech:85
F Kick: 67
Curling: 70
Header: 67
Jump: 63
Techniq: 96
Aggress: 95
Mental: 85
Kp Skill: 50
Tm Wrk: 55
Consist: 4
Condit: 4
Wk Acc: 3
Wk Freq: 3

Special Ability-

Dribbling *
Playmaking *
1-1 Scoring *
Outside *
Sliding Tackle *
 
Krook

Krook

Ex-Classic Creator
Gerd_Muller said:
what did you say when the in game classics comes??
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I don't fully understand what you mean, if you are talking about the classic players that were in PES4 but not in PES5, I said that I will have them all done by Sunday.

Is that what you meant?
 
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