Firstly i think i should say i am a huge football fan. And am a huge gaming fan.
I started playing footie games on the Amiga 500 with Kick Off being the first one that i put a lot of hours into. From that went to Microprose Soccer,Sensible World Of Soccer, World Cup Football, Super Soccer, International Superstar Soccer (old name for PES), Fifa, Total Football, And of course PES. Massive fan of football games.
I am not a fan of just one game but of many games. With anything in life at one point something you think is the best will not always be the best. In terms of games some games have their golden years and then are replaced by another. That is how it is. I am not a die hard fan of just one series is the point i'm trying to make.
I have played the WE Demo and compared it to the PES demo and i think people are exagerating how good it is to be honest. The only difference as in real difference i noticed was the response times in passing. Everything else seemed the same. The AI seemed the same, the crossing seemed the same, the penalties seemed the same, the running and moving seemed the same, the passing seemed the same, the through balls seemed the same and so on.
Now there is clear improvement in the WE demo but in my eyes that improvement is minimal. And the fact we are happy to see passing response times increased just shows how poor the old demo really was.
Let's be honest here. The game is now 2nd best to Fifa. Not in every area but in most. You can happily play them both but when you play PES you wish a lot of things from Fifa were in there. And it is the same with Fifa, when you play that you wish some of the things in PES were in there.
But the difference is the things that i want from Fifa in PES are the looks and presentation, the things which really don't matter too much. Because the old classic's through history did not look so great, they did not have these shiney lifelike character models. What they had was gameplay.
I think that since PES has become a yearly thing it has lost sight of this and has concentrated on the looks of the game more then the playing side of the game. PES10 looks great. Looks better then Fifa10.
Konami need to take the game away and spend as long as is needed to create the game we all want from them. We know they can do it, they have done it in the past. But each year this gen since it has been an annual game they have come up short. I think this year if the game play's like the WE demo will probably be my least favourite from the series. And that is down to gameplay, nothing else. You can see the potential but it never quite get's there.
What they could do would be to release the game and then just update it every year, charge people for the updates rather then the full game because they are just too similar.
I have always believed that a game should take as long as it needs to be made. It should not be rushed, it should not be released simply to meet a deadline. If something is not working in it and your only weeks from release then be honest and say it is not ready, then delay it. People will be unhappy about the delay but that will be forgotten when the final game is released and is much better.
So i think going to a yearly format has really hurt the series of PES.
Maybe if this one is as expected does not so well they should remove it from the yearly release format, and take as long as it takes.
I started playing footie games on the Amiga 500 with Kick Off being the first one that i put a lot of hours into. From that went to Microprose Soccer,Sensible World Of Soccer, World Cup Football, Super Soccer, International Superstar Soccer (old name for PES), Fifa, Total Football, And of course PES. Massive fan of football games.
I am not a fan of just one game but of many games. With anything in life at one point something you think is the best will not always be the best. In terms of games some games have their golden years and then are replaced by another. That is how it is. I am not a die hard fan of just one series is the point i'm trying to make.
I have played the WE Demo and compared it to the PES demo and i think people are exagerating how good it is to be honest. The only difference as in real difference i noticed was the response times in passing. Everything else seemed the same. The AI seemed the same, the crossing seemed the same, the penalties seemed the same, the running and moving seemed the same, the passing seemed the same, the through balls seemed the same and so on.
Now there is clear improvement in the WE demo but in my eyes that improvement is minimal. And the fact we are happy to see passing response times increased just shows how poor the old demo really was.
Let's be honest here. The game is now 2nd best to Fifa. Not in every area but in most. You can happily play them both but when you play PES you wish a lot of things from Fifa were in there. And it is the same with Fifa, when you play that you wish some of the things in PES were in there.
But the difference is the things that i want from Fifa in PES are the looks and presentation, the things which really don't matter too much. Because the old classic's through history did not look so great, they did not have these shiney lifelike character models. What they had was gameplay.
I think that since PES has become a yearly thing it has lost sight of this and has concentrated on the looks of the game more then the playing side of the game. PES10 looks great. Looks better then Fifa10.
Konami need to take the game away and spend as long as is needed to create the game we all want from them. We know they can do it, they have done it in the past. But each year this gen since it has been an annual game they have come up short. I think this year if the game play's like the WE demo will probably be my least favourite from the series. And that is down to gameplay, nothing else. You can see the potential but it never quite get's there.
What they could do would be to release the game and then just update it every year, charge people for the updates rather then the full game because they are just too similar.
I have always believed that a game should take as long as it needs to be made. It should not be rushed, it should not be released simply to meet a deadline. If something is not working in it and your only weeks from release then be honest and say it is not ready, then delay it. People will be unhappy about the delay but that will be forgotten when the final game is released and is much better.
So i think going to a yearly format has really hurt the series of PES.
Maybe if this one is as expected does not so well they should remove it from the yearly release format, and take as long as it takes.
