Tired of ML budget!!

[sktaxi]

Every season in master league i have difficulty to pay my salaries, staff and so on.

I have reduced the team up to 20 players and even so, i can't pay it.

I started with real madrid and in the first season i bought fabregas, iniesta, xavi, balotelli, pato. Sold many players to have some money.

After 3 seasons i'm still unable to pay for everything. In the last season the AI even reduced Youth team and supporters budget and it also reduced all my staff to the minimum.

After a season with low cost staff, youth team, supporters and 20 players only i was unable to pay again. And i won every competition.

My salaries are 105k. It isn't that much..

Can you tell me what are your budgets, salaries, youth and staff costs please? So i can compare

 

[[Shabadoo]]

It's low cos you spent a crap load of money in the first season, you should only sign players you need in first season, if your real madrid you already have lass diarra, xabi alonso and kaka to play in midfield and benzema or higuain to play up front, your signings, despite being good ones, were unneccesary. Straight away your salary will have been high cos you will have sold crappy players and then bought who you did which will ultimatly highten your team salery cost...

I suggest you sell a couple of players with a highish wage you don't play alot and just win as many games as possible, concentrate more on the CL and league, even if your knocked out of the copa del ray, cos i think you get £15m for winning the CL and £8m for winning the league or the other way round, can't remember.

Who did you sell? I'm guesing Khedira was one of them?

 

[LOL-ness]

I have a similar situation as OP, also playing as Real Madrid and I've only bought Thomas Müller, Lahm and Vidic to strengthen my defenses and to give me more options in SS players, and ended up selling surplus players like Higuain, Benzema and Canales and made some money off them. In the end, I kept a team with only 19 players: Starting 11, 7 subs and 1 reserve. Even then, I've ended up having my supporters budget cut to lvl 4 by the 5th season due to money problems, although I've barely managed to avoid going negative.

Another thing I don't understand is why the game would try to cap the amount of sponsorship budget I get. I was constantly reloading my ML save file whenever I get a sponsorship offer to see if I can get a signing with a larger sum of money, but I ended up getting similar offers. After that, I went to check the sponsorship budget level year-by-year and I find that every year it's around £30-33 million annually, even with sponsorship changes. My team salary alone costs at least triple that amount, and the game still expects me to be able to maintain my team? I am starting to understand why some people recommend playing a 5-year ML only, as you're sure to go in the red by the 5th year if you started with a good team.

 

[pesral]

Its the same problem with previous version of PES. I won everything in every season, eventually my players got lots of individual awards which make my players' market value rises. The salaries became madness. I didn't even have the chance to buy a new player. Every season, I have to sell at least one player in order not to get bankrupt.

 

[Skeezix]

I have never had problems like that.
I am with Liverpool and I have like 300 million, and it keeps raising every season instead of going down. And I didn't won the Premiership and Champions League this past season, so I didn't have that money.

But I sold Reina like for 25 million and Agger like for 45, Torres for 60 million or something like that.

Just sell those players that cost too much and you can easily can find anyone who can do the same but it is chaper.

When I receive an offer for a lot of money I rarely thought twice (just in the case of players that I really want like Gerrard) but if I see something like those offers, I sold them, I can find something who can do the same and cheaper.

My salary is like 80 million per year and I have 28 players, still including some big salaries like Gerrard, Carragher, Ribery, Rooney.

 

[u1tradt]

I don't see how people can have this problem, it's so damn easy to overcome. Right now I'm in my fifth season and have £120mil just sitting there and I'm well into September so all salaries and costs have been paid; all staff, youth team and fan club costs are at the highest they could possibly be. I've got too much money and I actually want there to be more costs to pay and more ways for me to invest in my club since I've got too much money doing nothing for me.

Player salaries are crucial, I picked up on this very early on. If you let player salaries go out of control then your finance sheet is going to be one big mess. My team salary at the moment is £45mil but that will definitely be halved by the end of the season. By the end of my fourth season I had top players reaching their 90's in overall stats being paid less than a tenth of their market value. But of course now it's become a different ball game since I had to renew many contracts of star players, but since I've got so much money lying around I decided to stick with a couple of players on high wages for one season (to retain spine of team) while I inject fresh blood into the team to replace the overpaid guys.

In my second season I remember buying Ribery for £5mil because I desperately needed a good winger short-term because the rest of my squad wasn't giving the front men the service they required. At the end of that season he received MVP in the league. However at that time paying a player £5mil in wages wasn't an option for me (particularly for a 30 year old) as I was still developing the depth of my squad and I could have bought 2 or 3 decent wingers at that price anyway (which is precisely what I done after), so I sold Ribery at the end of the season that I bought him in and got double what I paid for him. So essentially I secured his services for a year for nothing; the 5 million I paid for him was regained on top of the 5 million I paid for his wages. That's wheeling and dealing right there!

One good way I've now come up with to help keep player salaries down long-term is this: Once you've found a cheap player who you can see has great potential and you want to buy him, offer him a 2 year contract. For example I recently bought a CB by the name of Rane (82 overall at 17 years of age) and his salary is about 600k per season. Now after a couple of seasons slowly cementing his place in my first team I'm expecting his value to rise but not by a lot, maybe by 2 million or so. By this time his contract will need to be renewed to match his market value. Then at that moment you offer them a 5 year contract of their market value which means you will have secured their long-term future relatively cheaply. In the end you will have a choice, you can either keep the player when their contract has run out since you will have saved so much money due to this that you can afford them for a while, or you can sell them at an extremely high price compared to what you paid. Either way you benefit a lot in the long run.

 

[LOL-ness]

I do understand that the "correct" way to play PES 2011 is to constantly buy players who's got potential (or "resurrected". I got "resurrected" Henry, Deco and Cannavaro in the team and I knew their stats are going to increase. I also use them a lot by subbing them in after half-time to build them up) and sell players who have high salary. I am pretty sure my problem will be nothing the moment I sell C.Ronaldo because he alone is eating up 1/5 of the total team salary.

But not everyone plays like that! Some people like to keep their team mostly static, sell the surplus, and then slowly build up a young team by buying up "resurrected" players as they graduate through various Youth Teams. In other words, building your dream team, not a team filled with opportunistic signings.

Currently, Konami doesn't allow you to play like that. You cannot keep hold of your current team without major annual changes because eventually wages will become a huge problem as their stats increase. I understand this is realism, but sometimes a little fantasy is good when creating your dream team?

 

[pesral]

I do understand that the "correct" way to play PES 2011 is to constantly buy players who's got potential (or "resurrected". I got "resurrected" Henry, Deco and Cannavaro in the team and I knew their stats are going to increase. I also use them a lot by subbing them in after half-time to build them up) and sell players who have high salary. I am pretty sure my problem will be nothing the moment I sell C.Ronaldo because he alone is eating up 1/5 of the total team salary.

But not everyone plays like that! Some people like to keep their team mostly static, sell the surplus, and then slowly build up a young team by buying up "resurrected" players as they graduate through various Youth Teams. In other words, building your dream team, not a team filled with opportunistic signings.

Currently, Konami doesn't allow you to play like that. You cannot keep hold of your current team without major annual changes because eventually wages will become a huge problem as their stats increase. I understand this is realism, but sometimes a little fantasy is good when creating your dream team?

Well said!

I already how to manage my team like the way u1tradt said. But I don't like it at all. I like keeping the same starting eleven for years. Would I be willing to sell my star players? Not a chance. Would Barcelona in real life be willing to sell Messi? Not a chance as well. But keeping such players, Messi, Cristiano, etc, for years made their salary became unbelievable. C. Ronaldo in my ML has 20m pounds salary. His market value is 22M.
So, I'm "farming" a few youth players just to survive in each season.

 

[sktaxi]

I guess it is the way they wanted to do. Thought it was my problem. Of course it is stupid to clubs like real madrid and barcelone need to sell their stars.

Also it is even more stupid after a season where i won everything (CL, League, cup, super cup). With that i made a lot of money, even so i wasn't able to pay my salaries. Even with real madrid.

Anyone know if that is going to be changed with the new patch?

 

[sktaxi]

I guess it is the way they wanted to do. Thought it was my problem. Of course it is stupid to clubs like real madrid and barcelone need to sell their stars.

Also it is even more stupid after a season where i won everything (CL, League, cup, super cup). With that i made a lot of money, even so i wasn't able to pay my salaries. Even with real madrid.

Anyone know if that is going to be changed with the new patch?

 

[Tech_Skill]

I guess it is the way they wanted to do. Thought it was my problem. Of course it is stupid to clubs like real madrid and barcelone need to sell their stars.

Also it is even more stupid after a season where i won everything (CL, League, cup, super cup). With that i made a lot of money, even so i wasn't able to pay my salaries. Even with real madrid.

Anyone know if that is going to be changed with the new patch?

I dont think you are wrong.

I think there is a potentially huge problem, and its possibly going to be made worse by the increase in cost to sign players, which has been brought on by the patch.

Read the last couple of posts in this thread and see what you think.

http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread.php?p=1690668#post1690668