Transfers missed in V3 file

[edu madrid]

Craney, Daymos and Glejs

I reconsidered and I'm ready to remake my job... It's better for all using Craney base if they really took off duplicated players and recover all Bundesliga players and all Npower players...
I can do tthe following using Craney like a base:

imput correct shirt numbers in all Bundesliga players;
Do all transfers for Bundesliga teams
Correct all line-up's from Bundesliga teams;
Correct all position stats to bundesliga players;
Put strategy and tatical sttings in all Bundesliga teams;
using for it that font: Bundesliga creation thread;

so after I did all this we need a guy to help us correct NPOWER..

what do you think???? Craney send a e-mail to Daymos and if Daymos aprove yur job I'll continue the job...so after I finish I can send to Glejs take a look...

ok??? I can do it in two days...

 

[Craney91]

For me the best thing for the file in the first place would have been to have waited for the v7 update first and then started creating the Bundesliga. But I can understand why because it would have meant dealying the file.

BUT

Iv basically gone through the file and found duplicate players, and removed the club players (if need be) and then transfered the player across from the national team. I have fount duplicate players for other teams in the game also.

I.e. Misimovic at Galatasary

HOWEVER, there maybe a few more that iv missed, but thats why it might need you, daymos or anybody else working on the file to have a look through also. From my part my file is finished and just needs the transfers etc.

If we was to reset the transfers to Konami v7 default, the duplicate players would appear again and you would loose all the players iv transfered across from the national teams in those leagues.

So its probably best to just work of this file as it is to be honest.

What you guys think?

 

[edu madrid]

Craney91

did you apply or not???? if you applyed the transfers made by konami are ok are'n they???
In my save I corrected all details that i mentioned for Bundesliga before...I acpet your save but I desire default transfers from konami too so does your save have the default konami from v7 or not??? Morata and Sarabia is in Real Madrid?

remember in my save we have trasnfers konami default, Bundesliga ok and I think I need recover some players from Npower and remake numbers....

if you prefer I can send you my save so you take a look...don't touch in Bundesliga...it's all ok... if you want send me your e-mail adress...

 

[Craney91]

- Quick update/mistake

Oscar Cardozo (Licensed in Benfica) needs to be moved across to Paraguay National Team in place of the duplicate CORDOZO.

Just noticed it this very minute.

....but thats the only one. -


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(ok, edu)

When I first loaded the game up with the v3 files on the Hard Drive and v7 already downloaded. It did not ask me this question, however it automatically gave me daymos's sqauds etc. So I think that means to (NOT APPLY)

However I understand what you mean about the Konami v7 update doing all the transfers, numbers and line-ups for us (If we choose to apply) BUT you will still end back with all the duplicate players I've fixed and sorted around into the right teams and sections.

I suppose it would be better if the file had the v7 squads as a base. BUT ONCE AGAIN that would mean finding the missing players for nPower and Bundesliga AND going through all the duplicate players AGAIN.....which for me there is no point at all.

- If someone wants to do a file so that v7 squads are as a base (Apply) then carry on, BUT make a note of all the players who you are going to miss/loose out of the sqauds FIRST and then you will find it alot easier. PLUS feel free to research my file first and take notes of all the changes I have made to so you can apply to your own. -

However if we stick to the same file (Not apply) I guarantee you will NOT notice any difference between daymos files squads and konami's. If we get a good team working on the squads, line-ups and player numbers for all the leagues. It will be much better than the konami sqauds v7 AND more up to date! PLUS we get to keep Ronaldinho etc, if we choose to work extensively on daymos's file (NOT APPLY)

So for me it is a no brainer really, Plus the fact we will have no duplicates or fake players on daymos's (my correction) file in comparison to the v7 konami squads.

Its all confusing but I hope you all understand.

(Lets stick together on the NOT APPLY FILE, I sent to the legend daymos LOL)

 

[edu madrid]

Craney if you accept my save data we just need to remove duplicated players and recover litle few players for Npower and correcet numebers for npower teams...so if you accept...I can help you take off duplicated players,,,for example I care Bundesliga, La liga, serie A...you make the rest...
I say it because in my save we have ready transfers...it's amost finished...we just need take off the duplicated players... what do you think???

I was prepered for help you but like I started work using knoami default transfers and line -up's why not use my save and you help me????

 

[Craney91]

Craney if you accept my save data we just need to remove duplicated players and recover litle few players for Npower and correcet numebers for npower teams...so if you accept...I can help you take off duplicated players,,,for example I care Bundesliga, La liga, serie A...you make the rest...
I say it because in my save we have ready transfers...it's amost finished...we just need take off the duplicated players... what do you think???

Dont you think it would be quicker/easier to use the file with no duplicates as a base to correct the transfers, numbers and lineups manually?

You see you have to find duplicate players yourself, sometimes they are even under different teams without the same name. So it takes alot of patience to find them. Iv done many many many, If there is any left, (maybe 1 or 2 that ive missed) im sure someone else will find them when the file gets passed on.

(and take nothing away from your work edu) But making transfers on a file with duplicate players may add to more....

For me, If we can get the transfers done manually, everything else will fall into place perfectly. We can then start on other things, apps, numbers, game plans etc etc

Besides, there is not many transfers to do, because daymos has done quite a few himself. So to be honest it isnt that many and if a team of people are working together on them. Those will be done in just a few days if that.

Plus the fact the file will be even better than konami's v7 squads. Because we get to keep some players dyamos data copied. (Players that you will loose in v7 squad update, like a licensed ronaldinho)

Its upto daymos what happens. But im more than willing to work with you edu and anybody else with this file 100%.

 

[edu madrid]

Craney91

Craney91 to me is important have update konami so I will start the job of taking off the duplicated players... I alreay stated and I took off chamak and Ivanovitch...so if you think it's important and if you don't want help take off I'll do the modifications..but think ...if you had updating transfers I would do all job you asked me without problem...

 

[Glejs]

Craney, you mention that there aren't that many transfers to do? Depends on how accurate you want the game to be.. Maybe you will be satisfied with just the most famous players tranfers? I'm now done with the french league and Bundesliga (did all formations, shirt numbers and tactics from the Bundesliga thread) + most of the 'rest of the world' teams and I must've spent well over 100 hours doing it.. It can be a real pain to do transfers, especially if a team is full (32 players).. Sometimes you need to investigate 2 or 3 teams simultaneously just to figure out how to get ONE team straight.

Forza Milan, halftime's over..!

 

[edu madrid]

Craney, you mention that there aren't that many transfers to do? Depends on how accurate you want the game to be.. Maybe you will be satisfied with just the most famous players tranfers? I'm now done with the french league and Bundesliga (did all formations, shirt numbers and tactics from the Bundesliga thread) + most of the 'rest of the world' teams and I must've spent well over 100 hours doing it.. It can be a real pain to do transfers, especially if a team is full (32 players).. Sometimes you need to investigate 2 or 3 teams simultaneously just to figure out how to get ONE team straight.

Forza Milan, halftime's over..!

Glejs I have a save that I sent you before... you don't need to do transfers line-up's etc... I used Daymos v3b and I default transfers so after I corrcet Bundesliga (recover players, numers, strategy, tatical settings, transfers etc) so I just need recover some few Npower players and reimput number for Npower...ready the job is done....but if You are working with Craney is other thing...

Grejs don't waste time making transfers because I've already aswered this question... but if you decide use Craney save ok...if not, take my file that i sent you by email and take a look...now I'm taking off duplicated players...what do you think???

If you try to do transfers without default v7 you will must make transfers, remake all numbers for all legues, do all line-up's but you wil not have the new players from konami yet...so Like I default transfers konami, default line-up's and I recover and correct Bundesliga why not work in my save and finish soon...we just need correct Npower numbers, recover some npower players and if you want take off the duplicated players...

 

[Craney91]

Its not going in is it?

ALL work ANYBODY has done to their own file is appreciated, daymos also appreciates anybody wanting to help him also.

If you make the missing transfers to a file that has duplicate players already on it, there is a good chance your going to add to them.

If you want my honest opinion the people wanting to help and offer their support are being stubborn. "Look how much time iv put in, use our file etc etc"

Fact of the matter is....NONE of us has put anywhere near the amount of dedication into editing as daymos! EVEN if we repeated what we have done to our files over these past few days 10 times over!

The reason im saying use my file (Not because im selfish, arrogant, or want recognition) Im basically saying that because if we get the mistakes and problems sorted now, it wont carry on creeping into the next file and so on.....

There were still some of the same problems in v3 as in v2...(that were brought up in the v2 thread.) But because people were "helping" on there own individual files and not working together on the same file as a TEAM. Those problems carried through, if we carry on "umming and arring" over who says what, and what we use.....We are going to get NOWHERE with a proper fix and daymos dont need this £hit.

The SOLE reason I offer my file is that it stops the small mistakes happening in future files. Its great that you might have done as much as you say, but if it isnt applied to the right base and file, it does not really count does it?

Lets work together to help daymos, by using the 1 file.

If you want it (the file) to start and "re-do" the things you have done to your files then I will send it ASAP!

I know its frustrating knowing that all that work you have done will go to waste on your own file, but if WE push on working on the same file. I promise you we wont be here talking about these things if daymos continues producing OF's in the future.

Its up to you guys.

 

[edu madrid]

Craney91

I don't care if I need to remake all job that i did...it's not rhe real problem in my opion...
The fact is you unfortunatly dif not apply and after you did not DEFAULT THE TRANSFERS... so we never have new konami players and we will contine work for free...because for example like Glejs said he is wasting more than 100 hours just with transfers because he did not use konami default transfers....

Again, you did not apply, and not default and Glejs did not too.... remember I did...
So Craney think ...if you think it's easy to do transfers, line-up's and correct numbers for all teams and legues an new konami players are not important to you ok continue with your save but I can't help you....

Glejs do you mean what I say about default transfers.... what do you think??? i think you need choose in my save or craney save and help one of us continue his job...
And finally we need Daymos decision and advice.... but remember I can do my job again but We must use default Konami transfers!!!

 

[Daymos]

Guys you lot are making things a bit too complicated

Ive not touched any file yet as I've been waiting for you lot to come to some sort of conclusion.

Please note that this file will be the last for PES2011 and you can't take all the little tweaks into PES2012 so don't kill too much of your time on certain areas.

So can anyone summarise what's been agreed between you guys?

Cheers

 

[Craney91]

I've had a think and I believe now 100% it is better to default the transfers to Konami's v7 and then start any work ontop. So it is better to use edu's as a base. However later on i will load pes up and go onto edit mode and take a note of all the duplicate players and any other changes I've made to the file and Ill post them all on here to help you edu.....ALSO I will do this just incase you might have missed some of the duplicate players out (that iv fixed)

There is quite a few, so later on after I've taken notes, I will post them all in this thread 1 by 1 as a list, so you can search through your file edu to check them or make the changes.

Laters.

 

[Glejs]

I've had a think and I believe now 100% it is better to default the transfers to Konami's v7 and then start any work ontop. So it is better to use edu's as a base. However later on i will load pes up and go onto edit mode and take a note of all the duplicate players and any other changes I've made to the file and Ill post them all on here to help you edu.....ALSO I will do this just incase you might have missed some of the duplicate players out (that iv fixed)

There is quite a few, so later on after I've taken notes, I will post them all in this thread 1 by 1 as a list, so you can search through your file edu to check them or make the changes.

Laters.

It would be great with list so I could compare with my own shit. My copy of PES contain 7205 players, went through them all last night.. I found 30 something duplicates. I'd recommend you go through this list also (make a player search for ALL players, do not insert any letters) because there might be differences.. Here are the duplicates I noticed. Hope this list can help you:

Name (Country) (Team/info)
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ABE (JPN) (Leicester)
ANNAN (GHA) (Schalke 04)
BEATTIE (one is Scottish, one English. Same stats) (Swansea)
BENDER (GER) (twin brothers Sven (Borussia Dortmund) and Lars (Bayer Leverkusen). Renamed them so I won't be confused again)
BOUSSOUFA (MOR) (FREE TRANSFER, left Anderlecht)
BOYD (SCO) (Nottingham Forest)
BUZSAKY (HUN) (QPR) search for 'buzs' if you can't find..
C. BORJA (COL) (Red Star Belgrade. Broken duplicate, can't be defaulted.. at least not for me. Renamed one of them to fantasy name)
DELPIERRE (FRA) (Stuttgart, can be found in CLASSIC PLAYERS)
DJEBBOUR (ALG) (Olympiacos)
E. JUAREZ (MEX) (Celtic)
F. URIBE (COL) (Chievo, hardcopy duplicate that can't be defaulted.. had to rename one of them)
FEDERICI (AUS) (Reading)
FEINDOUNO (GUI) (Monaco)
FRIEDRICH (GER) (Bayer Leverkusen) (Arne & Manuel, not duplicates)
FORMICA (ARG) (Blackburn, hardcopy duplicate)
GHEZZAL (ALG) (Bari)
GYEPES (HUN) (Cardiff)
J. M. DIAZ (River Plate, hardcopy duplicate, rename one of them)
JENDRISEK (SC Freiburg, same as NT (national team) player E. JENDRISEK)
KILGALLON (ENG) (Doncaster = FREE TRANSFER)
MARSHALL (SCO) (Cardiff)
NOSWORTHY (JAM) (Sheffield Utd)
NYATANGA (WAL) No club team at the time, NT only.
O'NEIL (ENG) (West Ham)
PRICE (WAL) (Crystal Palace)
ROJO (ARG) (Spartak Moscow, hardcopy duplicate)
ROLFES (GER) (Bayer Leverkusen)
SAMUEL (BRA) (Werder Bremen)
SCHWEGLER (SWI) (Eintracht Frankfurt)
SOMOZA (ARG) (Boca Juniors, hardcopy duplicate)
ST. LEDGER (IRE) (Preston North End)
STEINHÖFER (GER) (FC Basel)
TAARABT (MOR) (QPR)
UCHE (NIG) (Almeria)
W. ERVITI (ARG) (Boca Juniors, hardcopy duplicate)
WALCOTT (ENG) (18 year old.. FREE TRANSFER, playing in dutch 2nd div at the moment)
WELCOME (HON) (Monaco)
WELLINGTON P. (FREE TRANSFER)
ZAYATE (GUI) (FREE TRANSFER)

Not sure if this one is a duplicate or not:
BARTLEY (ENG) (Rangers/Sheffield Utd?)

 

[Craney91]

Rightio, first of great work and list provided Glejs!

If we can work together on providing those lists, it will help the file hugely.

However, earlier in the thread you mentioned that some duplicate players, you defaulted.....So that they have their konami fake name....while this will stop two players having the same name. It is still a duplicate player..... But IF the duplicate player is removed and moved over to the free agents this will NOT effect your ML etc.

However, if you want the file so that there is no duplicate or "same name" players in the free agents. Defaulting them is not really a option, you need to edit them into a not-in-game player really. But like I said, any duplicate players moved over to the "free-agents" is a good, quick, easy and safe way to ensure the ML is ok.

If you have been defaulting them to fake names are they all moved to the "free agents" section for safety Glejs?

PS. Im loading up PES 2011 now, Ill right down notes of what I've done and ill report the feedback back in a post in this thread in a short while.

 

[Craney91]

PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS CAREFULLY
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Players that need to be moved over to the National Teams, in place of the duplicate player in the National Teams are as follows:


OSCAR CARDOZO - BENFICA - in place of CORDOZO in PARAGUAY.

MISIMOVIć - GALATASARAY - in place of MISIMOVIC in BOSNIA. (?)

KOREN - HULL CITY - in place of KOLEN - SLOVENIA (I think KOLEN is the konami licensed player here)

BAH - STUTTGART - in place of BAH - GUINEA

J. HERNANDEZ - MAN UNITED - in place of JAVURENHO - MEXICO

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Players that need to be moved from the National Teams in place of the "created fake" player in the Club teams are as follows:

nPower
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IWELUMO - SCOTLAND - in place of IWELUMO - BURNLEY

PATERSON - NORTHERN IRELAND - in place of PATERSON - BURNLEY

GYEPES - HUNGARY - in place of GYEPES - CARDIFF CITY

MARSHALL - SCOTLAND - in place of MARSHALL - CARDIFF CITY

WESTWOOD - IRELAND - in place of WESTWOOD - COVENTRY CITY

CLINGAN - NORTHERN IRELAND - in place of CLINGAN - COVENTRY CITY

COMMONS - SCOTLAND - in place of COMMONS - DERBY COUNTY (?)

FOLAN - IRELAND - in place of FOLAN - HULL CITY

MCSHANE - IRELAND - in place of MCSHANE - HULL CITY

ST LEDGER - IRELAND - in place of ST LEDGER - PRESTON NORTH END

LONG - IRELAND - in place of LONG - READING

FEDERICI - AUSTRALIA - in place of FEDERICI - READING

KUQI - FINLAND - in place of KUQI - SWANSEA
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Bundesliga
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MATHIJSEN - HOLLAND - in place of MATHIJSEN - HAMBURG

JAROSLAV DROBNY - CZECH REPUBLIC - in place of DROBNY - HAMBURG

AOGO - GERMANY - in place of AOGO - HAMBURG

JANSEN - GERMANY - in place of JANSEN - HAMBURG

VORSAH - GHANA - in place of VORSAH - HOFFENHEIM

CHARISTEAS - GREECE - in place of CHARISTEAS - SCHALKE 04

KUZMANOVIC - SERBIA - in place of KUZMANOVIC - STUTTGART

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Players that are duplicate in two different clubs, need to be removed from these clubs ARE:

HANKE - BORRUSSIA MOCHENGLADBACH (?)
BRAAFHEID - HOFFENHEIM (?)

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Appearance/Face/Hair changes:

LUCAS
GLEN JOHNSON
CARROLL
DIEGO (WOLFSBURG)
GRADEL (LEEDS)
EMNES (MIDDLESBOUROUGH)

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Name Changes:

VERONIN - UKRAINE - SHOULD BE - VORONIN

WOLVERHAMPTON - SHOULD BE - WOLVERHAMPTON WANDERERS

Number changes that I made:

Ronaldinho #10 - FLAMENGO

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ANY PLAYERS THAT I HAVE MARKED WITH (?) are players that have transfered in January to another club in the game, So the konami v7 squad update might have them already moved or REMOVED COMPLETELY.

ALSO, Please dont forget some of the duplicated players that I have mentioned here in the created leagues (Bundesliga + nPower) might disapear into the "free agents" AFTER the Konami squads for v7 are used/defaulted (If the squad created has more than 23 players.....) So it might just be a case of having to move over the correct player in the NATIONAL TEAMS across to the club....instead of from the FREE AGENTS.

If you move players over from the "free agents" back to clubs AFTER the konami squads v7 you will be duplicating the player again.

- Dan

(PS - There might be more players I have not come across, but these are ALL the ones I've done, so whoever daymos wants there file to be as a base, you will have to make these changes!!!! But Like I said earlier also.....I think it is right now that Edu's file is used because he has defaulted the v7 konami squads (which is best to work on as a base, providing all these changes are made))

 

[edu madrid]

Craney 91 and Grejs

ok... so I need to do the modifications that you two are noting in this foruw....
First question: Craney i'm puting the right player from team to selecion team, after I imputed the wrong player to free agent, finaly I edited him this following: I changed stats to 1, I changed position to goolkeeper and finaly I changed the name to "a". So all the time I transfer a duplicated wrong player to free agent I copy this base. Do you agree guys????
So I'll do all the modifications that You are mentioning carefully... craney or glejs could you help me???? I will do this modification so I was think in before I sleep I send a seve to you so like I live in Brasil and you in Europe You can work a litle while I sleep and before you sleep you resend me the save ...Always speeking number forum did you change for example I will start from first hint number:114.
i will try my best and I always can do untill the last number from the day...so if I could i will not need to send a job to you...because I know that to find duplicated players and write in this foruw is dificult....
So I'll start the job now ok....before I sleep I tell you how I am (what number).
see you guys

 

[Craney91]

Craney 91 and Grejs

ok... so I need to do the modifications that you two are noting in this foruw....
First question: Craney i'm puting the right player from team to selecion team, after I imput the wrong player to free agent, finaly I edit him this following: I changge stats to 1, i change position to goolkeeper and finaly I change the name to "a". So all the time I transfer a duplicated wrong playerto free agent I copy this base. Do you agree guys????
So I'll do all the modifications that You are mentioning carefully... craney or glejs could you help me???? I will do this modification so I was think in before I sleep I send a seve to you so like I live in Brasil and you in Europe You can work a litle while I sleep and before you sleep you resend me the save ...Always speeking number forum did you change for example I will start from first hint number:114.
i will try my best and I always can do untill the last number from the day...so if I could i will not need to send a job to you...because I know that to find duplicated players and write in this foruw is dificult....
So I'll start the job now ok....before I sleep I tell you how I am (what number).
see you guys

Personally i think its better we use your file as a base because It has the konami v7 squads and transfers as a base! All we need to do is find the players that are going to go missing with the 23+ squads (Thats only if the player(s) are not already in the national teams to be moved across to the clubs easily...) If the player your looking for is not in a national team, then the player that went missing to "free agents" can be put back in to the correct club + edu you have already done this for Bundesliga players?

You just need to look at the list, Iv done and the list above me (Glejs) and make those changes. OBVIOUSLY some of the things Glejs has said I have said in my list, so just ignore one if the player mentioned is the same...ok?

There is quite a large list of things edu but if you are patient it might only take 1-2 days. and then can be sent to daymos for release.

Im so excited now, daymos v3 file with new konami transfers!

All the best edu!

(PS - its best you do the changes, because you know your file better than anyone. If there is anything else I can help with let me know and send the file over when you have finished duplicate players. I can do updated appearances after you have finished those 2 lists? Send me the file when you finished, Ill make changes and then send over to daymos?)

 

[edu madrid]

I found Chamak (marrocos) Arsenal; Ivanovic (serbian) -chelsea; Bradley(usa) aston villa;

Yes Bundesliga is 100% corrected and PERFECT CRANEY 91...I send...so let me work now hahaha see you!!!

 

[Craney91]

I found Chamak (marrocos) Arsenal; Ivanovic (serbian) -chelsea; Bradley(usa) aston villa;

Yes Bundesliga is 100% corrected and PERFECT CRANEY 91...I send...so let me work now hahaha see you!!!

If you find any players in "free agents" Leave them edu, they wont effect the file. If you move them back to national teams and clubs. You will have duplicate players again!

(If the players mentioned in the lists, is Licensed and in a national team, that player needs to be moved over to the correct club IN PLACE of the duplicate player basically.....Then the fake player in the club will go over to "free agents". You dont have to edit the player AT ALL then once its in "free agents" because it wont effect ML if they are in "free agents.")