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Unstoppable tactic? Help!

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BoNey

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One of my friends started doing this and then now ALL my friends have adopted this tactic that I find really cheap and have no idea how to counter, some help would be greatly appreciated :)

Basically, what they do is find team with several very fast players who can dribble (Milan, Barca, ManU, etc) and set them in a 4-3-3 formation. The three offensive players obviously are the fast ones and then LW and RW are manually adjusted to be as far into the corners of the field as possible. With this formation, EVERY play is basically a ground or lobbed through ball to these players, who will blaze across the field, reach the byeline and either cross it in or cut into the box looking for the classic cutback to an open striker.

Now, this is the part that I find particularly cheap. Because the wingers are constantly standing in line with deepest defender (sometime this happens to be the fullback covering them, sometimes they're unmarked and played onside by other defenders, in which case I often concede a goal), I have no way to defend against this. The reason is that if a fullback is marking him, the moment my cursor switches to the fullback, there's that one second pause you get when you just switch players, which gives the winger enough space to completely pull away from my defender. Often, as I mentioned, the winger isn't even covered, and then I get screwed.

Basically, I have two questions:

1. How do you get around the game's one second delay when switching players when it comes to marking really fast players?

2. Is there any way to ensure that my fullbacks are ALWAYS marking their wingers? I set them to manually aggressively mark them, but they're often still exposed.

Thanks in advance, this cheapness has made me play FIFA 09 a lot more, as I have yet to run into any tactic that compares to this level of cheapness.
 
inoit

inoit

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eddy1892 said:
change your full backs to centre backs and try to anticipate the cut backs
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This is good advice.

Also, you could try the following...

...set full backs to covering instead of aggressive marking. They should then be more inclined to 'stand off', and merely bloccking someone's path is often better than trying to make a challenge (especially if they're trickier/quicker than you).

...Set Back Line to C (deepest) and offside to C (rare) to encourage your defenders to sit deep. This should help deny the wingers space to chase ariel balls, and allow your defenders to be in front of wingers, rather than chasing them.

BUT...

...your defence may be too deep, leaving the midfield too stretched. This may creatre problems elsewhere (especially when playing against Xavi, Iniesta, etc. with thier Playmaking abilities).

...also, instead of dropping deep and standing off, you could try the opposite tactic: setting Bacl Line/Offside to A, and squeezing up to compress the midfield, and either cut off the wingers' supply or catch them offside. You need to be good to that - really good.

HTH
 
thorbarry

thorbarry

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Use the same tactic against them. If your a better player you should win. Or use a nice 5-4-1 formation with full backs and wing backs
 
dan80

dan80

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play as the same type of team as them or say change your team to a lower team or im not playing lol or just play defensive with a 5-4-1 formation
 
inoit

inoit

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^^^Yes, sorry, forgot to mention selecting same team as oppo/giving in/imitating oppo/going ultra-defensive/pad-downing.
 
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byondthought

byondthought

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BoNey said:
One of my friends started doing this and then now ALL my friends have adopted this tactic that I find really cheap and have no idea how to counter, some help would be greatly appreciated :)

Basically, what they do is find team with several very fast players who can dribble (Milan, Barca, ManU, etc) and set them in a 4-3-3 formation. The three offensive players obviously are the fast ones and then LW and RW are manually adjusted to be as far into the corners of the field as possible. With this formation, EVERY play is basically a ground or lobbed through ball to these players, who will blaze across the field, reach the byeline and either cross it in or cut into the box looking for the classic cutback to an open striker.

Now, this is the part that I find particularly cheap. Because the wingers are constantly standing in line with deepest defender (sometime this happens to be the fullback covering them, sometimes they're unmarked and played onside by other defenders, in which case I often concede a goal), I have no way to defend against this. The reason is that if a fullback is marking him, the moment my cursor switches to the fullback, there's that one second pause you get when you just switch players, which gives the winger enough space to completely pull away from my defender. Often, as I mentioned, the winger isn't even covered, and then I get screwed.

Basically, I have two questions:

1. How do you get around the game's one second delay when switching players when it comes to marking really fast players?

2. Is there any way to ensure that my fullbacks are ALWAYS marking their wingers? I set them to manually aggressively mark them, but they're often still exposed.

Thanks in advance, this cheapness has made me play FIFA 09 a lot more, as I have yet to run into any tactic that compares to this level of cheapness.
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Play with people who actually like real football...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Bish

Bish

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There's no skill in doing it with teams like Barca, Man Utd etc. If he's that good, tell him to use it with an average team. If he refuses, laugh in his face.
 
Luis_Garcia

Luis_Garcia

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If you choose to put your Back Line to C, and Offside likelyhood to C and make your side-backs, centre-backs. Then you should be able to cope defensively.

However, you need not always worry about how they set up, and just play your own game. Can't stress how important it is to just keep the ball. If they play with those cheap tactics of hoof it down the wing, then why don't you give them a possession masterclass :)
 
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ruudy

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well i have a friend who plays with barca and use those so called cheap tactics, but i use to beat him like hell but in recent pes2009 our record is faiely even......but i can control pace of the game(i play with Real madrid) and when i do that its absolutely fantastic feeling .....although sometimes he beats me but he admits that im a better player and score better goals than him.......which is satisfying

i use 4-4-2 and most of the times my midfielders(snieder and van der vaart) score goals, mostly important goals,when i need it the most......
its pity i cant play online.......
 
HenrikDk

HenrikDk

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I also have a friend how plays Barca 4-3-3 and he kicks our butts without looking at the TV. And I have tryed everything, 5-4-1 four, CD's backline A-B-C. There is no sure way to counter the "baca curse". BUT if my friend plays other teams then Barca he is not that good. I think the Barcalona team is broken in PES. But I will admit my friend is a good player.
 
The Eristic

The Eristic

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Try five in the back with a sweeper (preferably somebody with the "Covering" special and great stamina/response). You can always use strategy buttons for CB Overlap or a formation change to get back to a more attacking stance. Against certain players, the sweeper can be enormously frustrating.

Also, learn to work the hell out of the manual offside trap.
 
Makumbi

Makumbi

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jus keep the ball in the middle and pass it around for a sertain time until you think you can score
 
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lesserlights

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First of all turn your controller settings to semi-assisted. Then in your team tatics get your fullbacks to stay back when attacking. You can either put a man marker on the wingers or drop a wide midfielder deeper to double up. Also only play one centre forward with you aother attacker in midfield man marking the deep midfield player who makes the pass most often. Lastly play pace at full back even if its a winger or someone crap. I use Man City and can cope against this tactic.
 
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