Want next-gen PES? get a 360 'cause PS3 is delayed AGAIN!!

[Ko_nami]

Nice to hear my name being mentioned. :happy:

For the people who are saying the PS3 will be technoligically superior to the Xbox 360, you're wrong. Both consoles have similar specs with the only exception being the built-in Blu-ray drive in the PS3.

And for those who are saying that PS3 games will cost in excess of £50, wrong again.

A Single Layer Blu-ray disc (BD-R) currently costs around $25 in the US (which is around £14 according to xe.com).

xe.com  Universal Currency Converter ® Results  

Live mid-market rates as of 2006.09.07 19:30:28 UTC:  

25.00 USD United States Dollars  = 13.3336 GBP United Kingdom Pounds  

1 USD = 0.533343 GBP   
1 GBP = 1.87497 USD

Add to that the manufacturing costs and you'll find that the price will not exceed £44.99. Just like it did for the early PS2 games when the blank DVD was new technology.

they should have left it out and just released the machine with a as standard like the 360 which has the option of adding drives ro it like the hd one or if blu ray wins a bluray one its ideal.

What and pay another £150 for an add-on? No thanks. :angry:

I say let Sony iron out the Blu-Ray drive's deficiencies - it'll benefit the consumer in the long run. I don't wanna sound like a Sony fanboy but I really don't like how Microsoft are forcing the gadget freaks amongst us to fork out another £150 for something they already paid £300+ plus for. It's just not right. :no:

 

[red]

pes 6 probally wont be out on the ps3 next year more likely it will be pro 7
not on launch in march that is retarded and anyone who believes should hang them selfs with their joypad wire
next november it will be pro evo 7 on 360 ps3 and vista pc

so if you want pro which is not just a graphic update as a lot of fanboys are saying buy it on the 360 or wait a long time for your fix

I will be buying PES6 on the PS2 and as the PS3 will play it and undoubtably better than the PES2 I might add. Also seabass and the team are deliberating a name for what will be WE11, there will be, if true to form of course, a further release in Q2 2007 which will include the PS3 format I am sure. but if not I can still play we11 for the PS2 on the PS3 until such time a version is released for it.

The most important thing that we should remember here is that if the game is already developed for the 360 then it can be available for the PS3 within weeks after that (yes I know not before the 01/01/07) as we all know by now that it is esentally the same game only exported to 360 and without a doubt the powers that be in sony will want this game released ASAP. And of course Konami will what this released ASAP to; if it is one of a few titles then it means more sales. So if I was a betting man I would wager that there will be a PES/WE release in Q1 2007 (could mean you have the game before the console but anyway)

 

[castrometal]

I fear that Konami have built this engine and now plan to just "evolve" PES 6 to PES7 with minor graphical tweaks (and then continue the same trend again) - if this is the case then it's possible we may have

or we can just play fifa, i mean it already has good graphics and by the PS4 it'll have good gameplay

 

[zeemeister]

Xbox 360 is being released at the end of this month here in South Africa, I think this is very bad for Sony.

I say this because PS1 and 2 where the dominant consoles, in fact I know of only a handfull of people that own an xbox and "Toy's R us" is about the only place that stock xbox games. (Much like the Japanese market it failed to really take off) this is mainly due to the Playstations earlier release and SA gamers are not fussy even FIFA outsells PES here (I'm ashamed to say that)

The SA gamers are also not big spenders so when it comes to consoles, just about every household has a PS2.

I, for one, am a Sony fanboy and will wait a "little" longer and pay a "little" extra, but come PS3 release next year are playstation games going to be stocked at only one store while Xbox 360 sells at CNA, Incredible connection, Musica, Game and all the other major stores?

 

[Ko_nami]

or we can just play fifa, i mean it already has good graphics and by the PS4 it'll have good gameplay

:lol:

The funny thing is that you're probably right. :laugh:

 

[S-D-P]

it got delayed and delayed.. dunno what's wrong with sony though..

i think theres a chance they are using a dirty trick called creating demand. iam more than happy with my 360. And all that stuff about any sensible person knew it wouldnt be out untill next year is rubbish.

 

[Ko_nami]

i think theres a chance they are using a dirty trick called creating demand. iam more than happy with my 360. And all that stuff about any sensible person knew it wouldnt be out untill next year is rubbish.

Spot on. It's simply a Sony marketing ploy.

I think they realise that there are lots of people in Europe who are desperate to get their hands on a PS3. Desperation will only lead to people paying extortionate prices (I'm talking about £400+). :no: And it's exactly what Sony want. :angry:

I wouldn't be worried about the demand though if I were Sony. I mean, the demand for the PS3 will always be there and why wouldn't it be there? Sony are currently dominating the gaming market.

However, they forgot to think about the level-headed people here who know what a rip-off is when they see one.

My advice to everyone who wants a PS3; sit back and wait for the price to drop.

 

[Killerkey]

 

[Mick03]

lets get a few things sorted.

blue ray - yes it more expenceive and being out sold but it will be come the market leader, just for the plain fact that HD-DVDs can only hold one HD film, unlike blue ray which can take the film, extras and full HD surround sound. also when ps3 comes out it will be cheaper then current blueray players making it more acceable. not to menchon the number of film stuidos using it. also am praying it dose become bigger as id love to see the microsoft aswer (a usb add on)

delay - the delay is simple due to the low chip yeald. chip yeild is the perecnt of fully working chips per production, and off th elow percentage sony have decided that the 2 million pre chrismas is not possable so europe gets srewed.

PS3 vs XBOX - congrats to the people confirming stats yes ps3 is better on paper, just paper.

price - the price was set arterfiacly high so that fan boy would buy it but most people will wait, this stop hugh sell outs which can be seen as very imbarising

buy both - go fuck your self, i havent got that kind of money

pes - from what ive lead to belive pes6 for xbox will be graphicly better and have a downloads section, if theres any thing else the please do let me know.

willl i be buying a xbox? will i fook.

 

[Ko_nami]

blue ray - yes it more expenceive and being out sold but it will become the market leader, just for the plain fact that HD-DVDs can only hold one HD film, unlike blue ray which can take the film, extras and full HD surround sound. also when ps3 comes out it will be cheaper then current blueray players making it more acceable. not to menchon the number of film stuidos using it. also am praying it dose become bigger as id love to see the microsoft answer (a usb add on).

I see your point about the Blu-Ray technology being superior to the HD-DVD technology. After all, a Blu-Ray disc does hold more data than a HD-DVD disc.

The only problem I can see with Blu-Ray is the name. If it simply comes down to a consumer choice between Blu-Ray and HD-DVD, then I can see people choosing HD-DVD. Simply because of the fact that HD TVs are the next big thing and the DVD is the dominant format. Put two and two together and you get HD-DVD.

People might just trump for the HD-DVD under the impression that it will be 100% compatible with HD broadcasts and HD TV. Add the fact that HD-DVD players are generally cheaper than Blu-Ray (BD) Players and you can see why the HD-DVD format might succeed.

I'm sure about one thing though. The Blu-Ray format will be a success for the PC due to the fact that people are constantly backing up their Hard Drives. So you can see how the higher capacity will be beneficial.

I see that there are already some studios backing both formats. You are right though about more studios backing Blu-Ray than HD-DVD.

And I tend to agree that Microsoft have really shot themselves in the foot by not including a built-in HD-DVD drive in the Xbox 360.

 

[bezza2011]

Can we get one thing straight no one knows what price the ps3 will be in europe if you read the small print it should say that the price may vary thats just guess work from the company look on play.com it says there.
i have a 360 and will be getting the pes6 on it but i've seen the screen shots and i dont think there that much better than the ps2 graphics anyway have you seen the grass just looks crappy, and the players just look the same as ever. will have to see tho

 

[Ko_nami]

Can we get one thing straight no one knows what price the ps3 will be in europe if you read the small print it should say that the price may vary thats just guess work from the company look on play.com it says there.

Didn't Sony announce a while ago that the PS3 will retail at $499?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4752895.stm

According to that article, Sony are looking at retailing the European PAL PS3 at €499.

And according to xe.com, €499 is around £340.

But I suspect that Sony will screw us brits even further by releasing it at a retail price of £499. :no:

It's not bad enough that we're going to get the PS3 later than the Americans and the Japanese but they also have to make us pay more than them aswell.

£499 is $940 and €740. hmy:

For those that end up buying the PS3 at launch; you could effectively end up paying a good $500 and €300 more than the Americans, the Japanese and the rest of Europe. Which is shocking if I'm brutally honest. :shocking:

Let's just hope that Sony sees sense when they release the PS3 over here.

 

[Mick03]

ill say thell lower it to give it a boost agains trying to catch the x box up

 

[Milosh]

lets get a few things sorted.

blue ray - yes it more expenceive and being out sold but it will be come the market leader, just for the plain fact that HD-DVDs can only hold one HD film, unlike blue ray which can take the film, extras and full HD surround sound. also when ps3 comes out it will be cheaper then current blueray players making it more acceable. not to menchon the number of film stuidos using it. also am praying it dose become bigger as id love to see the microsoft aswer (a usb add on)

I don't know where you got your facts but they aren't correct.

HD-DVD uses more "sophisticated" compression technology than MPEG-2 which Blu Ray uses hence it can store more information on 30GB than Blu Ray on 50... Actually there is no factory pressed dual layer Blu Ray yet and it seems it will stay like that for the foreseable future, hence there is only 25Gb.

Also, the reading speed of HD-DVD is faster than on Blu Ray. Right now, the picture quality is noticeably better on HD-DVD than on BR, due to better compression codec.

And to disprove one more thing... Almost all HD-DVD movies have both DVD and HD-DVD movies on one disk plus all the extras, HD sound etc. etc. etc...

Again, I don't know what your source of info is, but I can guide you towards right, unbiased direction about two formats as they are right now.

My arguments are not necessarily in favour of one or another, my comments are just to tell you "the other side of the story"...

 

[Mick03]

i will check my sources again, cheers

edit: found it, here it is

it states that both disks use the same codec thought it is neraly a year old.

also i think someone said that blue rays dont exsis but edited there post, they have been in japan for a year or two now

 

[jamez]

My advice to everyone who wants a PS3; sit back and wait for the price to drop.

That'll be xmas 2008, then.......

 

[Ko_nami]

That'll be xmas 2008, then.......

Yep, exactly what I meant.