Way too many goals.

[who]

My next game wasn't Real, but Napoli instead.

They were completely useless up front. Buffon used his hands once. Coman scored in one of those goals. I missed at least three more. Their possession was unavoidable and with no end product whatsoever. Against a team that doesn't play possessively this can end very badly.

The same problemas was last year, but only with particular teams. I dont remember who they were, but they just pass the ball all the time, without any intetion to score a goal.

 

[rebelinho]

I have trouble to see the picture. What was the result?

You can expand it by clicking the yellow bar on the top of it.

The match ended 1-0.

Played the first leg vs Real during the Premier League half time, ended 2-0 and no "defender afraid of the ball" thingy. Really hard to find space and score, but once again opposition was 100% useless when attacking. It's getting easy to defend and hard-ish to attack. SS is feeling much better to me now though, considering these two games alone.

 

[Mads-TheChamp]

You can expand it by clicking the yellow bar on the top of it.

The match ended 1-0.

Played the first leg vs Real during the Premier League half time, ended 2-0 and no "defender afraid of the ball" thingy. Really hard to find space and score, but once again opposition was 100% useless when attacking. It's getting easy to defend and hard-ish to attack. SS is feeling much better to me now though, considering these two games alone.

Well.. The results is much more appealing compared to my experience..?

Are you playing on Superstar?

 

[rebelinho]

Well.. The results is much more appealing compared to my experience..?

Are you playing on Superstar?

Yes, these games were on SS, 10 mins in duration.

I'm now gonna play Fiorentina for the league. Let's see how that goes.

 

[Mads-TheChamp]

Yes, these games were on SS, 10 mins in duration.

I'm now gonna play Fiorentina for the league. Let's see how that goes.

I don't understand. You are playing on PC right?

Shouldn't be a difference. Which settings are you use? I'm playing on PS4, Superstar level - MP default players.. Maybe it will get better when im getting better players in defence. But still think it's to much.

 

[rebelinho]

I don't understand. You are playing on PC right?

Shouldn't be a difference. Which settings are you use? I'm playing on PS4, Superstar level - MP default players.. Maybe it will get better when im getting better players in defence. But still think it's to much.

PC, SS, 10 mins. My team floats around this (OVR in the parenthesis):

Buffon (92)

Bellerin (78) Bianco (80) Alessio (81) De Sciglio (79)

Neves (83) Vives (81)
Denis Suarez (81)

Quaresma (76) Fischer (90)
Coutinho (85)​

I did start with default players, but eventually all of them but Coutinho were sold.

If I understand correctly you are complaining about suffering too many goals, too easily?

 

[Mads-TheChamp]

PC, SS, 10 mins. My team floats around this (OVR in the parenthesis):



I did start with default players, but eventually all of them but Coutinho were sold.

If I understand correctly you are complaining about suffering too many goals, too easily?

No.. Actually i just think there is way to many goals. I think it is too easy for me to score and also for the computer. 4-3 games isn't that fun, when it happens 6 times a row, if you understand.

But again - i'm playing with the ML default players (the bad ones), against bad teams in Serie B. I'm just not understand why it will result in many goals, instead of few..

 

[rebelinho]

No.. Actually i just think there is way to many goals. I think it is too easy for me to score and also for the computer. 4-3 games isn't that fun, when it happens 6 times a row, if you understand.

But again - i'm playing with the ML default players (the bad ones), against bad teams in Serie B. I'm just not understand why it will result in many goals, instead of few..

Alright, got it.

From all the matches I've played against my mates the best ones are when we both use shitty teams. As doing things alone is impossible (players are not good enough for that) we have to pass and play like real life football.

Against the AI it is also easier to get good games and high scoring results. You can play well, therefore we can always get a way around to score. But when defending individual player quality is more relevant, because the AI will always find a way to overpower you individually. They won't due it as a team (most times), so they can't stop you when you attack... as a team. Or at least this is my idea.

 

[SportGameFan]

No.. Actually i just think there is way to many goals. I think it is too easy for me to score and also for the computer. 4-3 games isn't that fun, when it happens 6 times a row, if you understand.

That's what really deflated me about this year's version, I don't like it when it's too easy to score nor too easy for the CPU to score through over-powering tactics, like an express juggernaut! I traded the game after only a few days, I've played too many football games over the years to put up with crap like that.

Didn't they even play-test it? Perhaps they just don't care!

 

[Mads-TheChamp]

That's what really deflated me about this year's version, I don't like it when it's too easy to score nor too easy for the CPU to score through over-powering tactics, like an express juggernaut! I traded the game after only a few days, I've played too many football games over the years to put up with crap like that.

Didn't they even play-test it? Perhaps they just don't care!

You should try FIFA then. Here it always will be a 1-0 against CPU. Although every game is the same.

So much potential this year, that is actually is quite impressive that both companies messed things up..

 

[SportGameFan]

You should try FIFA then. Here it always will be a 1-0 against CPU. Although every game is the same.

So much potential this year, that is actually is quite impressive that both companies messed things up..

Don't worry, I've got FIFA 16, but I actually enjoy it as it feels like an achievement when you score- it was too easy to score playing PES 2016 ('Top Player'). The one thing that I don't particularly like about FIFA sometimes is the apparent momentum scripting- if you start to lose, watch out... it can be like quick sand!! You have to rotate your squad and drop most of the players with downward arrows. Most teams do have losing streaks though.

I've finally got out of a losing streak by beating Liverpool 2-0 with Newcastle united. I'm only Newcastle because I got sacked (fired) from Inter Milan at the end of the last season (finished 7th). I use full manual on Professional level. I think it's pretty realistic because Newcastle aren't exactly a brilliant team.

 

[Mads-TheChamp]

Don't worry, I've got FIFA 16, but I actually enjoy it as it feels like an achievement when you score- it was too easy to score playing PES 2016 ('Top Player'). The one thing that I don't particularly like about FIFA sometimes is the apparent momentum scripting- if you start to lose, watch out... it can be like quick sand!! You have to rotate your squad and drop most of the players with downward arrows. Most teams do have losing streaks though.

I've finally got out of a losing streak by beating Liverpool 2-0 with Newcastle united. I'm only Newcastle because I got sacked (fired) from Inter Milan at the end of the last season (finished 7th). I use full manual on Professional level. I think it's pretty realistic because Newcastle aren't exactly a brilliant team.

Fair. I'm not one of those who only can play PES or FIFA.

What is your opinion on the process from game to game?
One of the weakness in Fifa, is as i see it, that it can be very difficult to feel af difference between the teams you'll play against? I have been playing a career myself (AC Milan), and i was in the beginning feeling the same way as you do. Although as time went forward, i was beginning to see that it was the same ways i scored my goals everytime. The CPU did also play in the same way, and it was hard to see a difference between Juventus and a Serie B side.
I was playing on world class, with normal settings.

 

[SportGameFan]

Fair. I'm not one of those who only can play PES or FIFA.

What is your opinion on the process from game to game?
One of the weakness in Fifa, is as i see it, that it can be very difficult to feel af difference between the teams you'll play against? I have been playing a career myself (AC Milan), and i was in the beginning feeling the same way as you do. Although as time went forward, i was beginning to see that it was the same ways i scored my goals everytime. The CPU did also play in the same way, and it was hard to see a difference between Juventus and a Serie B side.
I was playing on world class, with normal settings.

Well, if you play on full manual, your goals will be pretty much different each time. I've been playing like that since FIFA 08 (PS3)- but back then manual shooting was a bit ropey to say the least so I used semi-manual (or whatever it's called) for my shots. I never got FIFA 09 so from FIFA 10 I've been playing with manual shooting also.

Teams don't really vary all that much, but if you accept that it's a fun game to play. I like passing the ball around, and always try to vary my attacking. It really does make a difference though if you take the time to assign player instructions, tactics, and formations depending upon the state of play. I think I've only had about two or three games where the CPU has scored right near the end- I used to hate that about FIFA.

Don't forget that you can alter the slider settings, but I've just left them on default for the first time in a few years.

EA Sports could alter slider settings for individual teams, so that they play like they do in real life. I don't know though, is there really all that much of difference between most Premier League teams now they have so many foreign players? Individual teams vary their tactics and formations, they aren't necessarily predictable.

I find that Professional level with full manual is the best for me, I like to use patient build-up play, not a million miles an hour like some Premier League games. If I'm behind I will tend to play with more urgency though. I also play on the Slow speed. I try to play realistically, so I play a little bit quicker in the Premier League than in Serie A. People talk about pace and sprinting but the trigger doesn't always have to be pressed all the way in, I always vary the pressure on it.

I like the analogue sprinting- but I use it pretty realistically, not running around like a headless chicken.

 

[Mads-TheChamp]

Well, if you play on full manual, your goals will be pretty much different each time. I've been playing like that since FIFA 08 (PS3)- but back then manual shooting was a bit ropey to say the least so I used semi-manual (or whatever it's called) for my shots. I never got FIFA 09 so from FIFA 10 I've been playing with manual shooting also.

Teams don't really vary all that much, but if you accept that it's a fun game to play. I like passing the ball around, and always try to vary my attacking. It really does make a difference though if you take the time to assign player instructions, tactics, and formations depending upon the state of play. I think I've only had about two or three games where the CPU has scored right near the end- I used to hate that about FIFA.

Don't forget that you can alter the slider settings, but I've just left them on default for the first time in a few years.

EA Sports could alter slider settings for individual teams, so that they play like they do in real life. I don't know though, is there really all that much of difference between most Premier League teams now they have so many foreign players? Individual teams vary their tactics and formations, they aren't necessarily predictable.

I find that Professional level with full manual is the best for me, I like to use patient build-up play, not a million miles an hour like some Premier League games. If I'm behind I will tend to play with more urgency though. I also play on the Slow speed. I try to play realistically, so I play a little bit quicker in the Premier League than in Serie A. People talk about pace and sprinting but the trigger doesn't always have to be pressed all the way in, I always vary the pressure on it.

I like the analogue sprinting- but I use it pretty realistically, not running around like a headless chicken.

Interesting. I'm playing legendary right now. For some reason this is way better than world class.

Haven't tried full manual though. Is this both shooting and lofted trough balls also?

Think i will stick to FIFA for now. Hopefully PES will release a patch where we will get closer to the demo again. Still love the freedom in the game, but 6-8 goals each game is to much.

 

[SportGameFan]

Interesting. I'm playing legendary right now. For some reason this is way better than world class.

Haven't tried full manual though. Is this both shooting and lofted trough balls also?

Think i will stick to FIFA for now. Hopefully PES will release a patch where we will get closer to the demo again. Still love the freedom in the game, but 6-8 goals each game is to much.

Yeah, full manual- I'd suggest pairing that with 'Professional' at first and see how you go. Yeah, I can't stand those crazy scorelines, it's like Konami purposely made PES arcade-like this year. Stupid!

 

[who]

@ Rebelinho

Can you report more on Superstar level? The first day that patch came out, I tryed it and I got the same feeling "AI defenders run away from the ball, I just run straight and score as many as I want" thing, but I read your post about how SS got much better and you couldnt detect any defenders capitulation. I tryed it myself and I have to admit its better. I just cant run straight anymore. Usually other defenders will try to help and the man that is garding me directly, has become even more agressive and hard. Overall - I have a challenge to beat CPU, because I just cant exploit mentioned bug/glitch anymore, as I used to. Maybe not all is lost. Report back.