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WE7 is a rip off!!!

alawode

Registered User
I think this game [WE7] is a big step backward from WE6 and it was rushed into the market cos it is getting very popular and the developers are getting very greedy. My reasons are below:
[1] The hand balls that were put in the game are a big joke, i have actually had my defender unmarked and facing my keeper and voila! he suddenly gets called for a hand ball [outside the box with no pressure fom anyone whatsoever]. Is that realistic??
[2]There seems to be no particular way to score, if you shoot on goal and score, and then try it the same way next time; the shot may just decide to miss the goal entirely even though u scored the same way the last time u had the exact same chance in the exact position.
[3] They make it seem that the AI is more intelligent , but in reality they [konami] have actually made your players less intelligent in order for the game to look harder. For instance u try to make a short pass to your teamate right in front of u, and he passes it right to the AI's player for no reason at all. Sometimes u try to make a simple pass to your CF in the penalty area, and the pass goes way back to your central defender in the middle of the field [can u explain that?]
[4] Also the tackling in this game is woeful, if your CB is running side by side with the AI's attacker there sems to b no way to actually get the ball from him except bringing him down [outside the box if u are lucky]. and some time if u use the x button to make a tackle and you get the ball, you player just stumbles and the AI gets the ball back like it was glued to his foot. Whats realistic about that?
There are just too many flaws witht his game, and i just think the developers rushed this game cos its getting much attention. I would have preffered to stick with WE6 until they brought out a game that they actually spent enough time with b4 they put it out there.
The sad thing is that some of you have actually accepted all these flaws as konami trying to make the game "realistic" but they have actually put out a very badly written game for u to buy.
I would like to hear your responses. Have a nice day.
 

hitmanuk2k

The Boss
well your opinions seem to be in the minority. and to be honest thats all i have to say, cos ive already made my feelings of the game known.
 

jaimo500

Registered User
ive been playing pes3 for just over a week and i have to say i agree with all of your above points. i've learned to live with the fact that its extremely difficult to get the ball from the opposing team, but one thing that still really annoys me is how when you play on 5* its not the other team that gets better, its your team that gets worse. i've said this about the other 2 pes games and it does get really frustrating, fair enough its 5* its meant to be hard but they do really stack all the odds against you (handballs out of nowhere, fouls for just running the ball off your opponent)


but still, what a game :)
 

GFK

Registered User
Youre one of the few people who thinks we7 is a ripoff. There are so many threads about this! So i agree with hitmanuk2k because i have already made my feelings of the game known.
 

Winning 11

Registered User
alawode, that could be true...I have WE7 and PES3, but I really didn't pay attention to those flaws, so thanks for reminding us..do you have PES3 ?? PES3 is better than WE7 ..
 

mutu

Betting Guru
[2]There seems to be no particular way to score, if you shoot on goal and score, and then try it the same way next time; the shot may just decide to miss the goal entirely even though u scored the same way the last time u had the exact same chance in the exact position.

ooh yeh thats bad that!

coz in real life if u try to do the same thing twice you get it exactly right every time dont you

:eek:

think first
 

dannyboy20

Registered User
[2]There seems to be no particular way to score, if you shoot on goal and score, and then try it the same way next time; the shot may just decide to miss the goal entirely even though u scored the same way the last time u had the exact same chance in the exact position.

Isn't that a good thing though? lol Players miss hit the ball in real life too you know. How many games in the past have we seen that have a certain way of scoring, and EVERYTIME you got in that position you were guaranteed to score. It's more realistic if you don't score everytime you're in the same position.

Also tackling is fine for me, learn to tackle better.
 

alawode

Registered User
Here's a quick recap for ya, all i'm sayin is that konami has basically chosen to use this version as an experiment for you all and it has basically messed up the game play[ a backward step in my view]. For example the hand balls, the advantage calls, and your players staggering and falling just so the AI can regain possesion of the ball.
I am a software developer myself and i know how greedy these comapnies are and how much it means to them to rush out version after version to a gullible audience/consumers. If u have WE6 i would advice u to stick with it cos u aint missing anything except for the expressions on the players face when the score or loose a game. My advice here is to voice your opinions on the flaws that you find in the game or they will keep on putting out junk until you all have to run to other games. In order to keep up the good game play and stop it from deteriorating u have to point out these things cos u are spending your hard earned money on it and you have a right to do so. This game was a step backward from WE6, and in order to keep in from spirallling further downward i have written this post [and the one b4], and those 2 guys that didnt like it can continue praising this version untill they finally see the light. Remember to keep the quality of the game u have to let them know they need to stop putting all these experiments in the game or u will stop buying it period!
 

mutu

Betting Guru
they gotta experiment somewhere man and see what the public likes

thats why i normally buy PC games, so they can release patches

damned ps2 :(

i will agree - the offsides, stumbling and handballs all SUCK
 

alawode

Registered User
... and for Mutu, if elude the 'keeper and put the ball in an empty post the first time u should be able to put the ball in the empty post the second time the exact same way u pressed the shoot button. It should not depend on the fact that the AI is loosing and it wants to keep the goal count down.
I know what im talking about ok?
 

alawode

Registered User
Eskol, i have not tested PES3 yet, but im my experience since the game is from a Japanese company they will surely try to make PES3 better cos they are selling it to the west, and thats where they will make most of there money. I will not be suprised if the gameplay is better on PES3. They cant afford to have a backlash from that part of the world
 

mutu

Betting Guru
you clearly dont know what youre talking about because the fact is - players miss sometimes

oh well, lifes tough, you cant get everything right every time you do it

take beckham, im sure he wasnt aiming to fly that penalty over the bar :eek: :p
 

Winning 11

Registered User
Let me know when you get PES3, aight brotha..I think PES3 is better than WE7 because, when you play againts the CPU its like playing human vs human while in WE7 almost every single time CPU tries to score from a corner line.
Konami fixed this bug in PES3. Also its not faster than WE7 at all..it all depends how well your PS2 is and your TV set. One thing that I like in WE7 more than in PES3 is the ball..in PES3 ball seems too small, but in WE7 ball is heavier, it just looks better..
 

asher b

Registered User
alawode, seeing as you know so much about artificial inteligence, why dont you get some? you could do with it man.
 
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