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Were has it all gone wrong

ginger08

Registered User
Is it just me or do people who use and write on these sites spend more time writing into these sites then they actually do playing the game its self. I find this really points out the fact that fans of the game are getting fed up with the 2010 version already and its only been out around 4 months this i find very worrying.
Even doe the latest game has improved in some ways it falls short in a lot of areas and has lost its way a bit on the next gen consoles, iv been playing konami football games since hyper soccer on the nes and never really been a fan of the fifa games until now i find that ea has blown konami out of the water with this years fifa 10 and i believe konami should take a few idea's from ea and put them in pes 11 and it would make it a better game. For instance (1) do you ever get when your on the break and are waiting for a forward/winger to make a clever run behind a defender but find them standing still?? In fifa a simple tap of l1 sends the player on a run behind the defender this would be a great addition.(2) the commentry in fifa can also make a dull game a bit more entertaining with talk about players,clubs,stadiums history so why can konami not make a bit more effort then the lame old 1 liners they have been using over and over,(3) after playing fifa its more evident that pes is way way behind in terms of animations and runs alot more fluid and natural then pes i find this very surprising as pes fells very robitic which in my opinion it never has before like the shooting and passing delay it really needs to be fixed its so annoying, pes looks amazing in the close ups but little has improved since the ps2 in terms of in game graphics this is supposed to be next gen come on konami. (4) goal keppers were do you start whats up with them dropping shots and letting in stupid shots a baby elephent seems to be more athletic then the keepers in pes i put this down again to lack of animations, also i find it very annoying that when they do catch the ball the are way too slow to set up attacks, in fifa you can set up counter attacks by how quickly the kepper releases the ball this would be a great addition.

I would like to finish by saying i really hope konami put alot more time into pefecting the game play in pes 2011 then they did in the pointless lighting effects they did in pes 2010 because at the end of the day its game play that matters most and i feel konami owe it to the fans to produce a great football game like pes 6 that they have not yet delivered on the next gen console.
 

csmac

Registered User
They need to sit down and play FIFA to see what ea have done right. Then play the older pes (5/6) and then play pes 2010 to see the differences between the games and realise what direction they need to take with the series. For all its merits fifa 10 has far to many flaws and 2010 will be a big year for both games. I think the world cup game will give a good idea of how fifa 11 will be, and what changes ea have decided to make. Its down to you Konami to give us a game that truly ends the debated between what is the best pes of the series.
 

stajin

Registered User
It seems that they are unable to cope with making the game for more than one system - seabass himself said they had difficulty with it (I believe it was a reason PES2008 was supposed to have been so poor), so now we get minor improvements rather then getting a new version.
Thing is, they haven't really changed anything since PES2008. They said they would with this version but it's the same old thing.
We just have to hope they actually listen and scrap the code they have and actually write a new version for 2011 rather than tweaking the same old broken code.

I think they are trying to hard to be different and not hard enough on actually making the game work properly.
So what if FIFA has a trigger run button... its a good idea USE IT!
Same goes for the trick stick, using the right analog to choose player, being able to challenge the keeper, etc.
 
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