why are the dutch so underrated in every we/pes game??

[Barry]

Defence looks quite solid, if they can get the ball to Maduro or Landzaat the sooner the better though. From there we try to seek the wingers, mainly Robben.

 

[drunkensailor]

Things like mental quality's, tactical things, is usually what Dutch players excel in. Jan Kromkamp, Phillip Cocu and Denny Landzaat can't dribble past 3 players, but they are masters at simpel options and thinking backwards when needed. You can't really get that into a game like PES...

However, the Dutch have a pretty nice mix of creativity and simpel play at the moment and with van Basten as coach, they have a pretty positive charisma.

We do quite depend on Arjan Robben though, and with him being injured every week, I hope he makes the WC2006.

he's not injured now but robben is indeed injured alot, he better do somethingt about that or he will be the next litmanen

 

[Psimonius]

What do you mean? Are you telling me England is a better nation?

I never said that at all, I'm just stating that none of the bigger nations (and regardless of success, we all know who the big teams are) couldn't really batter another big team.

You do seem to only notice the negative things I say about Holland and ignore my positive points.

 

[Barry]

I usually agree with the positive things, so no point arguing about that

As I already stated, the word "battered" wasnt really appropriate, forget about that

 

[mutu]

when i let com play com.

. . . do what?

Being part Dutch I qualify to give a neutral opinion :tongue: Stats wise, player for player, England are the better side. But we all know Konami have a habit of severely underating young players, which a lot of the promising talents you lot have named are

 

[Hansel]

robben, maduro, landzaat, van galen, mathijssen, kuyt, kromkamp all underrated, the dutch team has worse stats then ireland hmy:

cuz konami are to lazy to fix it....

 

[Psimonius]

Both teams have some exceptional players.

Holland: Schnieder, Van der vaart, Robben, Kuijt, Van Nistelrooy (I'm sure I've missed some coz I'm a bit out of date with their team).

England: Rooney, Lampard, Gerrard, Ashley Cole, Owen, Defoe, Wright-Phillips.

If both get their tactics right next summer, we could see both teams go far.

 

[Rasmus]

I think that many players are under rated, but I also think that far to many players have much better stats than they should. Shevchenko, and Recoba just to mention a few. It's not only the dutch players who are under rated. C. Ronaldo is way under rated for example...

 

[Elhombrebala]

That's right not only the dutch are under rated but others too.

 

[kk_agfstyrer]

If you cant even beat Denmark with your full squad, how are you going to beat us? Not to say Denmark sucks, but they are average at most.
*makes stirring the pot gesture*

we do suck, but we've had some of the best players ever to be on a football field

 

[Barry]

Shevchenko stats arent overrated at all. When you play with him, he feels much better than his stats tell you.

We witnessed the rise of solid defenders, which we sincerely missed since Stam took off. Boulahrouz,Matthijssen(AZ,currently injured) and Opdam are great defenders.
Midfield is no sorrow for us, Sneijder,Van Der Vaart,Landzaat,Cocu,Van Bommel and upcoming star Maduro plus some more fine replacements.

I mean, what team can afford to leave stars like Seedorf,Kluivert and Davids out?

Attack wise we have a luxury problem. Van Nistelrooy,Makaay,Robben,Kuyt,Babel,Van Persie;
Van Nistelrooy and Robben are usually secured of a place in the starting eleven, the rest has to fight for their places.

 

[drunkensailor]

I think that many players are under rated, but I also think that far to many players have much better stats than they should. Shevchenko, and Recoba just to mention a few. It's not only the dutch players who are under rated. C. Ronaldo is way under rated for example...

c ronaldo is underrated?? haha, pls, he has unbelievable stats, he's way overrated

 

[dee-dee]

if u r so worried about the stats of the dutch players just change them to wat u think is appropiate

 

[Rasmus]

Excactly - By the way, if there's 2 of every dutch (and some other) player in pes5, I'll get pissed !

 

[Keyser Soze]

Excactly - By the way, if there's 2 of every dutch (and some other) player in pes5, I'll get pissed !

Don't worry about it,I don't tink there will be!

 

[chelsea11]

i think its cause the dutch are crap at football , only jokin they arent that bad
i dont know why they are crap in the game and why there is 2 of every player maybe konami doesnt know how good they really are

 

[-BreaL-]

Correct me if im wrong, but there's a option called EDIT...

You can make Robben fly
Yoy can give stam the dribbling of ronaldinho
You can give kuyt the strength of shevkhenko...

BTW

RVN is very overated (IN MY OPINION) Roy Makaay is way better then RVN.

 

[Jake Small]

By the way, if there's 2 of every dutch (and some other) player in pes5, I'll get pissed !

There are, same deal as the previous game.

 

[reece]

V.Nistelrooy is better than Makaay by a mile.

 

[Barry]

No. As an out and out striker playing 4-4-2, Makaay is the better.
Opting for 4-3-3, Makaay doesnt fit in and RVN is the better option.
Its all a matter of how they adapt to different systems.