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Winning Eleven 10 Hands-on

cadburyho

Registered User
Is there any improvement made on injuries? Like player limping on the pitch.In WE9, when you play with an injured player and get a nasty knock again, he may be out for a long period. Hope Konami has not taken this out cos it is realistic. However there are times when an injured player can perform extraordinary acts, like dashing without any slowness in speed or even scoring a hattrick. The latter should be tone down a bit.
 

Ko_nami

Registered User
Got WE10 yesterday.

I've played a couple of exhibition matches so far and I immediately noticed that the game speed is a lot faster compared to WE9 and PES5. If anything I'd say it plays like PES4 and WE8.

But guess what, you can outpace defenders again. :)

Dribbling has become a lot easier and short passing seems to have improved and you can now also take quick free kicks.

Although there are some stat changes and other changes to the Master League, there aren't any changes graphically though.

I'll post some more impressions when I get an opportunity to play some more exhibition matches.
 

nakamura1888

Registered User
ok i have had the game for a little over a week now. so i can give u a wee insight into wot i think has improved and what can still be improved. 1st things 1st passing is alot faster as people have said in previous posts u can now run by defenders and they dont catch u anymore. (unless they are fast defenders bobby carlos etc) i have also noticed that a few times when i slide tackle people my player gets up really fast and retains possesion of the ball. the game itself seems 2 run more smoothly with 3 passes u can go from ure box 2 the opponents box. and i dont know if anyone will back up these comments up but when u play as barcelona u really feel as tho u are really barca<----sounds stupid dont it like the way the maestro moves in this game 2 jinks of the control pad and u have jinked ure way round 2 defenders easily.
ok new movements i cant really say 2 much about these cos i dont know how 2 do them i did a back heel that took 2 the air dunno if it was a glitch or it was real but i didnt mean 2 do it. volleys seem better ure player will really try his best 2 angle his body 2 get on the end of a flighted passes. all players who should have been better are. ok thats the good now sum bad. 3 star difficulty is a joke u can hammer teams easily so its straight onto 4 star from the start. and this is the worst one u still get those games where no matter what u do u just cant score stressfull i know eh wot else sum times ure quick free kick dont really work ure player just kicks the ball 2 a player on the other team. but if these are the only bad points in comparison 2 good points u cant really grumble. ok thats all i gotta say for now.


oh yes

ps if anyone can pm me with the new special move controls i would be a very happy chappy ;)
 

Ko_nami

Registered User
nakamura1888 said:
3 star difficulty is a joke u can hammer teams easily so its straight onto 4 star from the start. and this is the worst one u still get those games where no matter what u do u just cant score stressfull i know eh wot else sum times ure quick free kick dont really work ure player just kicks the ball 2 a player on the other team. but if these are the only bad points in comparison 2 good points u cant really grumble. ok thats all i gotta say for now.

I noticed that just now aswell. 3 star difficulty is incredibly easy. I suspect it's the product of a secret Konami agenda where they realise that they need to make the game easier to play in order to attract the FIFA fanboys. ;)

I agree with you generally though. The difficulty only starts getting hard at 4 stars.

I also noticed the negative aspect of the quick free kicks. Sometimes, the player that's taking the quick free kick gives the ball away to an opponent and gives them a scoring opportunity. :no:

But I reckon that this only adds to the realism. You can make quick free kicks work but you really have to be keeping an eye on your players and the radar.
 

nakamura1888

Registered User
glad u agree. :) i was just having a look over @ evo web and they say the flick am talking about is a real skill u stand with ure back @ goal and press l1 and square. yee haa!
 

Hunter

BELIEVE
My Review...

To start off, WE10 is definetely a step forward for Konami for the most part. The new kicking animations are excellent, often on PES5 there wasn't actually any contact when you kicked the ball. However there is on WE10, not to mention the style and natural technique in which they strike the ball. For example, if your taking a Free-Kick in your own half, you often give it the boot downfield. If you use outside curl to kick it on WE10 the player will smoothly float it with the lace/outside of his boot. Whereas if you intend to use inside curl it will sweetly glide it with the players inside step. Very good touch by Konami. Also when players pass the ball, it seems to be fizzed more unless your playing a 5 yard pass in which they often play it gently with the outside of their foot, looks very cool. The cross-field passes and long balls are animated better too, some have the Beckham-esque ankle technique which looks great and some are nicely lofted with the inside step. The shooting kicks are much better too, they really look stylish in the way they strike it. I had a shot with Rooney in which he mastered the Beckham technique by going over on his ankle and curling it in off the bar, almost like his Everton goal against Arsenal which vaulted his career. In a match I played earlier today too, I saw my opponent which was Thierry Henry on the edge of the box for France. He was played the ball on the ground, he then flicked it up with his left foot and lept into the air performing a side volley somewhat like Cahill's for Aston Villa a few weeks ago. Overall the kicking animations are incredibly improved since PES5, Konami have hit it top notch here.

As many people are already aware, the 3* level is remarkably easy, a stroll in the park more than anything. However I then notched it up to 6* and found it fairly difficult although no real difference in difficulty from PES5. In my opinion, 3* is about right as it could reel people in from the Commercial aspect however I think 4,5 and 6* should be incredibly difficult. Especially 6*, Konami must make sure that you have to really be a master to fight at the top level. Hopefully this may be arranged on PES6 for PS3, if not then WE11.

The goalkeepers are hit and miss in terms of improvements. New animations of one handed leaping saves look superb and very realistic. However the lack of catching ability in the game is quite silly. I understand a lot of keepers nowadays tend to punch and palm it away, but established goalkeepers on WE10 spill the ball too often. I've conceded quite a few goals from should-be simple catches by Van der Sar in which hes dropped or spilled straight into the oppositions feet. So concerning goalkeeping, its improved in areas but also dropped, literally.

Editing, a key element in Konami's book has only just gone and improved itself vastly in terms of kits. Now the kit templates provide a hell of a lot more choice, maybe just under twice the variety of the previous installment. How Konami get away with such things I do not know, they've got identical replicas of the Nike kits in the templates which is great, all up to date. As well as Umbro templates, Adidas, Diadora, Puma and more. Its now possible to create many kits pretty much perfect, an example in the Premiership is Fulham's kits, identical to reality. Middlesbrough have perfect kits just about too, Newcastle are up there, United's kits are perfect, Wigans, Lyons and many more I just don't want to make too much of a list. Theres no real improvements in terms of Logo/Emblem making which is a shame but I haven't really got any complaints. They have a couple more Number templates to choose from, one which seems like the Adidas numbers for the World Cup just without the several stripes going through them. They also seem to have the Nike numbers which they use in the Champions League.

Theres no real changes in terms of stadiums, only a few added but the Santiago Bernabau is indeed on the game. Many pitches seem to be improved too, they look greener rather than their previous yellow dull colour.

The choice of footballs is great too, starting with 10 and able to buy an additional 5. The buyable ones from the WE Shop are pointless and only there for novelty reasons really. But they have many styles of footballs, the new World Cup Teamgeist ball, a black Tunit ball and more. Great overall.

The Master League is pretty similar to that of PES5, the menu backgrounds look better but the actual Menu don't look that great. Overall they look okay but Konami could definetely do a better job. The options of having Classic players in the ML is a good touch, as well as the difficulty of negitiating transfers etc.


Hope you finished reading the review, and if you have any questions there is a thread for it around here I think. So just pop them in there and I may answer them if Zyg doesn't. :)
 

Cyrax

Registered User
Ko_nami said:
I noticed that just now aswell. 3 star difficulty is incredibly easy. I suspect it's the product of a secret Konami agenda where they realise that they need to make the game easier to play in order to attract the FIFA fanboys. ;)

I agree with you generally though. The difficulty only starts getting hard at 4 stars.

I also noticed the negative aspect of the quick free kicks. Sometimes, the player that's taking the quick free kick gives the ball away to an opponent and gives them a scoring opportunity. :no:

But I reckon that this only adds to the realism. You can make quick free kicks work but you really have to be keeping an eye on your players and the radar.

Yes,

The quick free kick can give you a big adventage but can also give your opponent an adventage. You have 2 seconds to aim your pass (the moment the player grabs the ball and puts it on the grass) so it never happens to me anymore. In the beginning I didn't know that you were able to aim the quick free kick..... I've scored some goals after the fast free kick. It's a great feature.
 

pieabc123

Registered User
got my we10, havent play meny games, cause ive been editin (my ps2 aint chipped) and ive gotta say its total crap!!!
nahhh jokes... so far im Lovinn the new gameplay.. but theres is not real big changes in ML etc.. but actual game play has improved alot, Free-kicks dont always hit the wall if u dont use R2 or down on the D-pad like in WE9, volleys better, and ALOT more curl on free-kicks, corners, shootin, etc... which is kewl, but one little thing that maybe most ppl didnt notice is ... when an offside play happens, ref doesnt wait till the player gets the ball to blow the whisle... YEAHHHH players reactions are better and move alot more realistic, noticed on a corner replay, its like a proper footie corner..
players shootin motion looks proper good and keepers motion too, but they still just watch the ball if u shoot and its close buts gonna miss lol oh and power-up bar moves alot quicker than WE9 its gotta be more of a tap sometimes, but overal its a good game. maybe there would of been more new features if they didnt rush it out for the world cup, but theres always nxt year ;)
PIE
 

hitmanuk2k

The Boss
My God. I don't like it. This is the first time I have never not enjoyed a latest installment. It's not that the game doesn't feel fun or enjoyable to play. But what the hell is up with the cricket scores? I played about 10 games with a friend earlier, a friend who in the past I have played against probably well over a thousand times. And almost every game the score was just ridiculous. We are seasoned pro's at the game series. Though he has been playing WE10 for a couple of weeks, it was my first games.

One game I won 7-2, with van Nistelrooy getting every goal. Other games scores were 6-4, 5-0, 4-3. The only reasonable score I remember was 2-1.

Dribbling is just too easy. Goalkeepers make piss poor attempts to get the ball when you are through one on one. It's so simple just to side step the keeper and tap into an empty net now.

Almost every goal results in the ball bouncing 20 yards back out of the net. Looks good once, stupid every other time since it happens so much. Some nice new animations, but high through balls are now ridiculously easy and oddly 'lofty'.

The game definitley focuses too much on attack, and I am sad to say is trying to make itself more like FIFA in order to gain their market.
 

pieabc123

Registered User
hitmanuk2k said:
My God. I don't like it. This is the first time I have never not enjoyed a latest installment. It's not that the game doesn't feel fun or enjoyable to play. But what the hell is up with the cricket scores? I played about 10 games with a friend earlier, a friend who in the past I have played against probably well over a thousand times. And almost every game the score was just ridiculous. We are seasoned pro's at the game series. Though he has been playing WE10 for a couple of weeks, it was my first games.

One game I won 7-2, with van Nistelrooy getting every goal. Other games scores were 6-4, 5-0, 4-3. The only reasonable score I remember was 2-1.

Dribbling is just too easy. Goalkeepers make piss poor attempts to get the ball when you are through one on one. It's so simple just to side step the keeper and tap into an empty net now.

Almost every goal results in the ball bouncing 20 yards back out of the net. Looks good once, stupid every other time since it happens so much. Some nice new animations, but high through balls are now ridiculously easy and oddly 'lofty'.

The game definitley focuses too much on attack, and I am sad to say is trying to make itself more like FIFA in order to gain their market.
yeah, i kinda agree, but i do fcuk-in hate that the goalkeepers alway fumble the ball, about 3 or 4 times a game.

edited the swearin, forgot about the kids lol
 

Ko_nami

Registered User
hitmanuk2k said:
My God. I don't like it. This is the first time I have never not enjoyed a latest installment. It's not that the game doesn't feel fun or enjoyable to play. But what the hell is up with the cricket scores? I played about 10 games with a friend earlier, a friend who in the past I have played against probably well over a thousand times. And almost every game the score was just ridiculous. We are seasoned pro's at the game series. Though he has been playing WE10 for a couple of weeks, it was my first games.

One game I won 7-2, with van Nistelrooy getting every goal. Other games scores were 6-4, 5-0, 4-3. The only reasonable score I remember was 2-1.

Dribbling is just too easy. Goalkeepers make piss poor attempts to get the ball when you are through one on one. It's so simple just to side step the keeper and tap into an empty net now.

Almost every goal results in the ball bouncing 20 yards back out of the net. Looks good once, stupid every other time since it happens so much. Some nice new animations, but high through balls are now ridiculously easy and oddly 'lofty'.

The game definitley focuses too much on attack, and I am sad to say is trying to make itself more like FIFA in order to gain their market.

I think you're being a tad melodramatic.

Although, I have to agree with you about how the game has become more attacker oriented.
 

hitmanuk2k

The Boss
If I wanted to play a game with goals in excess of 5 per game I would play FIFA. Scoring has just become much too easy. Mainly because of the dribbling and amount of times goalkeepers drop the ball.
 

zeemeister

Registered User
man I didn't need to know that....they really shouldn't have made it easier to score just sort of push up the CPU defence, orjust open it up a little and make them attack a little better...but don't make it easier!
 

dorval

Registered User
I really love the game's speed. I've played WE10 a couple of times and I really like it. Yesterday I was playing PES5 and I noticed it was much faster than WE10, it almost looked like an arcade stupid gay game. I really enjoyed WE10, but I should play a bit more I guess.
 

Ko_nami

Registered User
dorval said:
I really love the game's speed. I've played WE10 a couple of times and I really like it.

Got to agree there.

I don't know about you (or anyone else here) but I think it plays a lot like PES4.
 

dorval

Registered User
I hope that PES6 isn't faster. I can't remember but I know that every year there's always a big arguement about the differences in speed between PES and WE. Is the speed always the same or is it different? (Please don't hit me)
 

Zygalski

Administrator
In my opinion the games are about the same (or about 90% the same) but some people 'notice' a lot of differences between them.
 
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