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Wonderfull Edit Mode Pictures?

Damian Rush

Registered User
Hahaha, Well, Shankly I guess you haven't already undestood that we are talking about NEW GEN CONSOLES (New Gen Console: A console that can do more and better then a old gen one) and that we are talking about people who get paid ALL THE YEAR to make nothing more as we've already seen in past games.
 

nikicampos

Registered User
-You can't change League Emblems - YOU NEVER COULD
-You can't put more then one chest logo - YES YOU CAN USE YOUR IMAGINATION
-You can't put both logos or emblems in shorts or socks - ALSO YOU NEVER COULD
-You can't move the emblem in the shirt YES YOU CAN
-There aren't third equipments - WTF
-You can't make logos from scratch or write anything - YES YOU CAN LOOK AT SCREENS STEVE WONDER
-You can't put any logo in the back of the shirt - JEEZ YOUR DUMB
-Its impossible to have one logo for each of the two equipments - YOUR JUST BEING REALLY FUSSY

Hhahahahahha, great way to answer, nice post.

To the OP, have you ever thought about the fact that we can't change everything like league name maybe because konami can get into a legal fight.
 

john4

Registered User
But the truth is, they have had 2 years nob head, possibly even 3 consdering they start on the next game before the previous has even been released. I appreciate that they have "POSSIBLY" done all they can, but I was stating that some people feel we deserve more, and sometimes I agree.

Your too opinionated pal, different people like different things, if you can't accept other eoples opinions then don;t bother commented, maybe you should man up & whileyour at it grow up.

i gladly accept other peoples opinions, its just when you start stabbing at something that is fine, or even more than enough and know nothing about the constraints, timewise, legally, ethically and prioritywise im bound to voice my opinion and call you up on it. of cause they would get sued if you can create exact replicas of everything in the wonderful world of football, thats a legal constraint and ethical, why should FIFA pay millions for kist licensed for Konami to make it piss easy to exactly recreate those licensed kits. if you knew about these constraints fair enough, but you sure didnt mention any of them just went in guns blazing shooting everythin down. and the original post wasnt only targeted at you, but everybody whose complaining without actually thinking about the reasons Konami may have ommitted many features they could put in the edit mode, FFS they could easily just put a microsoft paint type feature in so we can draw on everything from kits to boots to wristbands and everything can be authentic, as soon as screens appeared konami would be in a legal battle.

sure it would be great to have a full in depth edit mode but its not possible

construct a good argument telling me how it is possible and i may listen to your opinion but calling me a nob head then telling ME to grow up isnt helping your case
 

Vitumbiko

Registered User
Today we have seen that many people are saying that the PES2009 edit mode is indeed a very good one. I apologise but a think its a total disappointement and that they are allways going backwards instead of forwards. I can explain it:

-You can't change League Emblems (Don't know if you can even change the names)
-You can't put more then one chest logo
-You can't put both logos or emblems in shorts or socks
-You can't move the emblem in the shirt (Not sure)
-There aren't third equipments
-You can't make logos from scratch or write anything
-You can't put any logo in the back of the shirt (Most of the German teams have writings in the back of the shirt)
-Its impossible to have one logo for each of the two equipments (Lots of teams have different logos in the two shirts)

I think these are enough reasons to make me surely say that PES2009 equipment editor is a bad one, mostly because some of the possibilities that I have exposed here were already possible in older PES Games, and since we are playing much more powerfull console, I'd also expect much more of the games.

Is there a source for this?
 

Fox89

Registered User
Hahaha, Well, Shankly I guess you haven't already undestood that we are talking about NEW GEN CONSOLES (New Gen Console: A console that can do more and better then a old gen one) and that we are talking about people who get paid ALL THE YEAR to make nothing more as we've already seen in past games.

Sorry Damien but how much do you know about the game design and development process? Let us take a few things into account:

- 1 year deadline
In game development terms this is nothing. Take a look at Half-Life 2, which is releasing EPISODIC COTENT (with about 2 hours worth of gameplay on at a time) at a minimum of every 6 months. This is without any online features and solely for PS3, 360, and Wii. Even a relatively straightforward FPS game takes over 2 years to put together properly at this level, and that is with a much larger budget and development team!

- Multiple consoles
Take the core PES 2009 development team once the design phase is complete. Then divide them between PS3, 360, PC, Wii, PS2, and PSP. That's alot of systems to divide a team over.

- Fixing issues
Before a game gets flamboyant it has to have its core solid. If you allow "feature creep" in the main game suffers, and that is absolutely the worst thing that can happen. I can only imagaine the time it must have taken to fix the technical issues from PES2008, before we even BEGIN on the design issues!

- Real players
How mahy players have the PES team individually modelled and tailored statistics to? This takes time in itself.

When you take these things into account you should be damn grateful to get a significantly improved edit feature plus 2 whole new game modes!!
 
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