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Pes 2011 worst game in years

Robdg

Registered User
I bought PES2011 after having played every single version for the last 10 years religiously. Played a master league campaign, and the first thing that struck me is how easy the game is. I play on world class and have yet to concede a goal from open play, literally. I started in my usual 4-2-1-3 formation and even switched to 4-2-4, but the AI simply cannot seem to score. Last weekend was sort of the last drop for me, as I finally finished the league winning all of the competitions I was in (League, CL, Cup) in my first ever 2011 season. I conceded 5 goals throughout the entire season, 3 of which were penalties, 2 were free kicks. Scored 118 goals.

I could try playing online, but I fear I may get the same online "features" as I did with 2010, players disconnecting when they get a goal down without touching the ball, general lag problems, and generally people who do not seem to want to play fair.

It pains me to say, but I have given FIFA 11 a try, at least it is not easy... :(
 

DIECI

Registered User
do you ppl notice the slowdown of the playes when the receive a pass? it happens sometimes, I guess depends how you get that ball but when it happens it toally kills your flow and attack. Really annoying. Honestly I think PES2010 was better at times! PES2011 lacks that feel that makes me want to play it, while its a good game IMO it could get annoying with the dumb AI, weird player slow down after getting passes and the lack of team customization. All formations to me feel the same, 4/2/2/2, 4/4/2, 4/5/1, 4/3/3.
 

DIECI

Registered User
I could try playing online, but I fear I may get the same online "features" as I did with 2010, players disconnecting when they get a goal down without touching the ball, general lag problems, and generally people who do not seem to want to play fair.

It pains me to say, but I have given FIFA 11 a try, at least it is not easy... :(

online quickmatch seems to work well this year, not much lag, just had some slow games which annoyed me. The problem with online is that, atleast for me, I can't get into community or anything else, just quickmatch. I guess its a server issue... who knows!
 

cjkinger

Registered User
The only people who like pes 2011 are new comers who have absolutely no clue how great game pes was back on ps2 days, even John said they are trying to get the hardcore fans back, but they failed, the game is a huge failure, and people who find this game playable have no idea what a good game is supposed to be


I've been playing since WE 7, which was about 6 years ago on the ps2, and I feel PES 2011 is a great game. I'm not calling you out or anything, but what I don't understand is why so many people continually yearn for the games from the ps2 days?

One, I believe there is no comparison in the options and gameplay for that matter, so we can agree to disagree-I feel todays is far superior, you don't. On top of that, if the games back then were so great, what are you looking for these days with the new releases of PES every year? Why not just play the old games? You can edit everything to your liking.

Yeah, so those are my two constructive questions: Why not continue to play what some of you view as the greatest soccers games ever (from the ps2 days)? If you view those as such outstanding games, what more are you looking for?

I guess I just tend to adjust my gameplay to the new PES release every year. I love the gameplay and reward of scoring goals and I guess just take the changes in stride. Maybe that's the issue, I don't have the one IDEALISTIC view of what the game should be. I'm actually overwhelmed by the the amount of customization available in this years release, from editing to strategy, so it makes me think if you really want to have fun and get the most out the game, you can if you try.
 

Sabatasso

Banned
PES11 is quite possibly, one of the most unrealistic Football Sims ever.... the speed at which the ball travels.... pure ping pong play.... to describe PES11 as "realistic" should be an insult to anyone who actually bothers using his brain before uttering sheer stupidity.

For the game truly to be put in the "simulation" category, you have to exclusively focus on the BAL aspect of the game. When you play the whole team, the simulation part is already gone out the window. Because last I checked, football teams don't operate with a hive mind. For example, old submarine sims where you control every station on the boat, is not actually a simulation. Later sims where you order the AI to perform different tasks aboard the boat on the other hand, is a simulation. The PES series is not really a simulation series, and as far as I know, never claimed to be a simulation. It is a football game, and the difference between a sim and a game is usually different perspectives on importance of realism. If you look at the difference between GP4 and F1 2010 where one game claim to be a simulator and the other a game, it is quite easy to understand the difference.

BAL on the other hand can rightfully be called a football career simulator, although not a very detailed one.

So unless someone find an official commercial where konami claims that the PES franchise is a simulation, your demands for more realism should be changed to pleas for more realism.

New Star Soccer and Trequartista are football sims, where you play one player and have to approach the game as if it's you against the world, making your career until you retire, much like BAL mode in PES.

The only people who like pes 2011 are new comers who have absolutely no clue how great game pes was back on ps2 days, even John said they are trying to get the hardcore fans back, but they failed, the game is a huge failure, and people who find this game playable have no idea what a good game is supposed to be

I think the reason why you think that, is because you where several years younger when you played those games on the PS2, and you demanded less from games than you do now. I have played the PES series for a long time, and nearly every release has been better than the last one. The concern I have had though, is that the level of improvement has been rather slim on several occasions, and I have felt that both PES and FIFA have developed extremely slow compared to other computer games, even within the sports genre.

Both companies have been milking the same cow for too long, but the leap between PES 2010 and 2011 is quite good in my opinion, and I look forward to see the next version and firmly believe that we will se a truly great football game come out of this in about two years time.
 

bunnywhi7e

Registered User
Ladies and gentlemen I give you bunch of AMATEURS who have no idea whatsoever what PES11 is all about. All of you that seem to bash PES11 are see through FIFA1 fans that just cant come to terms that PES11 is back and just whooped your FIFAs ass all over the place. How on bloody earth cam you say worst PES ever ? Do you morons remember PES2009/09 - now that was a screw job done by Konami. I'm tire of people saying oooooh why oh why cant they make PES on next gen like it was on PS2. They cant or they wont so my advice to you would be: stop buying PES and clean the dust off your PS2 if you still have one and live in th damn past playing PES5/6 etc and make yourself happy. IF and thats a big IF you know how to play this game which is PES11 it can be the best football game ever. To me it is. Over at EvoWeb, in my opinion a community that has most skilled, well known Pes players who compete never say this garbage about PES11.

You complainers are what will ruin PES. I hop to go Konami doesnt listen to you. Todays kids want everythig so simple and quick learning. Take your damn time and learn how to play this game.
 

BigP_Hellas

Registered User
why oh why has this game turned soo bad i used to love it havent so much since 08 last years wasnt even as bad as this,players turns like lorrys passing is not instant anymore a huge letdown

Totally wrong!
I've been playing PES since 2004 and the last couple of versions were .. nothing special.. but this year, I can finally say I'm having the most fun with a soccer game that I've had since Winning Eleven 7. And that's saying something
 

gameclick

Registered User
I told my girlfriend to pick me up a copy of FIFA while she was out as PES wasnt enjoyable anyway when I played FIFA I was shocked!!

the graphics are awful! the crowd sounds nothing like real life just a garbled mess and the players move very strange like on ice!? I did like however the fact when you score you can choose from different sound effects such as "goool" and fireworks but overall i was disgusted with the game so i decided to get my missus to drive us back to argos to return the game

upon arriving I ranted and raved at the person serving us when he kindly pointed out my girlfriend had actually brought FIFA 95! haha ohh how we all had a good chuckle at the mistake! i hope once my missus is out of hospital next week she also sees the funny side
 

BigP_Hellas

Registered User
I told my girlfriend to pick me up a copy of FIFA while she was out as PES wasnt enjoyable anyway when I played FIFA I was shocked!!

the graphics are awful! the crowd sounds nothing like real life just a garbled mess and the players move very strange like on ice!? I did like however the fact when you score you can choose from different sound effects such as "goool" and fireworks but overall i was disgusted with the game so i decided to get my missus to drive us back to argos to return the game

upon arriving I ranted and raved at the person serving us when he kindly pointed out my girlfriend had actually brought FIFA 95! haha ohh how we all had a good chuckle at the mistake! i hope once my missus is out of hospital next week she also sees the funny side


Wow wow wow wait a second!
What kind of backwards country do you live in where stores still carry FIFA 95 and women are allowed to drive?
 

BigP_Hellas

Registered User
Ladies and gentlemen I give you bunch of AMATEURS who have no idea whatsoever what PES11 is all about. All of you that seem to bash PES11 are see through FIFA1 fans that just cant come to terms that PES11 is back and just whooped your FIFAs ass all over the place. How on bloody earth cam you say worst PES ever ? Do you morons remember PES2009/09 - now that was a screw job done by Konami. I'm tire of people saying oooooh why oh why cant they make PES on next gen like it was on PS2. They cant or they wont so my advice to you would be: stop buying PES and clean the dust off your PS2 if you still have one and live in th damn past playing PES5/6 etc and make yourself happy. IF and thats a big IF you know how to play this game which is PES11 it can be the best football game ever. To me it is. Over at EvoWeb, in my opinion a community that has most skilled, well known Pes players who compete never say this garbage about PES11.

You complainers are what will ruin PES. I hop to go Konami doesnt listen to you. Todays kids want everythig so simple and quick learning. Take your damn time and learn how to play this game.

I agree with you, buddy.
I think this PES is AWESOME. I have it all updated with real teams/leagues including the Greek Super League ;) (had to do that myself) on the PS3 and I'm hooked! Even the MLO has me sucked in.
 

Sminky

Registered User
Ladies and gentlemen I give you bunch of AMATEURS who have no idea whatsoever what PES11 is all about. All of you that seem to bash PES11 are see through FIFA1 fans that just cant come to terms that PES11 is back and just whooped your FIFAs ass all over the place. How on bloody earth cam you say worst PES ever ? Do you morons remember PES2009/09 - now that was a screw job done by Konami. I'm tire of people saying oooooh why oh why cant they make PES on next gen like it was on PS2. They cant or they wont so my advice to you would be: stop buying PES and clean the dust off your PS2 if you still have one and live in th damn past playing PES5/6 etc and make yourself happy. IF and thats a big IF you know how to play this game which is PES11 it can be the best football game ever. To me it is. Over at EvoWeb, in my opinion a community that has most skilled, well known Pes players who compete never say this garbage about PES11.

You complainers are what will ruin PES. I hop to go Konami doesnt listen to you. Todays kids want everythig so simple and quick learning. Take your damn time and learn how to play this game.

Oh be quiet, if you don't like the thread go and praise PES on another thread.

If I or any other huge fan of PES wants to complain about PES2011 after spending £40 on it we will. Its called having an opinion of your own.

I don't need anyone to help me formulate an opinion. So if you like PES, well done, good for you. Go post it somewhere else.
 

muzza798

Registered User
Its not worst pes ever atall but they didn't deliver on a lot of their promises. 360 passing is barely there, 1000 new annimations? Barely noticeable apart the fact u can run in 360. Online? Still terrible for the most part. Master league? Robben costing 10mil, no player trades. Nets! There's a lot more
 

Sminky

Registered User
Its not worst pes ever atall but they didn't deliver on a lot of their promises. 360 passing is barely there, 1000 new annimations? Barely noticeable apart the fact u can run in 360. Online? Still terrible for the most part. Master league? Robben costing 10mil, no player trades. Nets! There's a lot more

Master League on PES2010 was better than PES2011 which is really disappointing. It doesn't make sense.
 

Sminky

Registered User
I'm curious, what did last years ML have that this one doesn't? I've noticed a few improvements but I haven't noticed something missing.

Namely its too damn easy buying decent players for stupidly low prices. As high as the pricing was on PES2010 it was better than the current setup.
 

BigP_Hellas

Registered User
Namely its too damn easy buying decent players for stupidly low prices. As high as the pricing was on PES2010 it was better than the current setup.

Good point about the cheapness. Do players get more expensive later on? Perhaps it's in relation to how much money you make this year. Considerably less than last year, I think.
 

Sminky

Registered User
Good point about the cheapness. Do players get more expensive later on? Perhaps it's in relation to how much money you make this year. Considerably less than last year, I think.

Also, unless you start with the default fake players you usually have a ridiculous amount of funds at your disposal. As Stoke City I started with £67m in the kitty, thats just plain ridiculous. I bought Robbie Keane, Krancjar, Di Natale, Miccoli, Galloppa and Wayne Bridge for less than £13m. Thats just too easy. It didn't feel a challenge to buy players. With the PES shop perk of better ML scout you'd probably have Messi and Ronaldo in your team within a couple of seasons.
 
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