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PES 2012 Negativity thread

lyc10

Registered User
I'm certainly having no problem defending other than that one game where Gyan ass raped Giersen with speed
However the game does seem really really fast, hopefully they'll tone it down a little
 

DIECI

Registered User
I'm certainly having no problem defending other than that one game where Gyan ass raped Giersen with speed
However the game does seem really really fast, hopefully they'll tone it down a little

online or offline?
 

DIECI

Registered User
hmm...i take great pride in my defensive abilities and i have posted shutouts in my last 6 games, barring a 3-2 loss, where the dude controlled the game for the first time online and score 2 great goals with arshavin.

I think the defensive setup is very good in the game, I have fun playing defense. Last year you could go through dbs, not this year. If your dbs are in front of the offensive player, you can steer him directions without dumb passes from last year that would always connect. And yes certain people still play where they automatically pass it really fast to the first guy they see but that can be stopped much more effectively than last year


i hear you... Im the same, I love defending and locking people up. I need more time with the game, and need to make better adjustments on Defense.... May I ask, how do you defend? Do you keep you backline deep or forward? man mark? what formation ?
 

DIECI

Registered User
wide this year looks nothing like last year the cam is way too high (zoom out ) this year. i wish it ws like last year


actually you're right, its zoomed out more, I think its more like 2010 rather than last yaer. my bad on the bad info!
 

waywardcloud

Registered User
i hear you... Im the same, I love defending and locking people up. I need more time with the game, and need to make better adjustments on Defense.... May I ask, how do you defend? Do you keep you backline deep or forward? man mark? what formation ?

I usually play 4-5-1 or a 4-2-2-2 and use a standard backline with sometimes opting for offside traps. zonal marking is key in this years addition as it was severely lacking last year. If an opponent is smart enough to swing the ball around and get a 1 on 1 i man mark and slightly call for help and back pedal. Timing has become crucial for getting the ball off good dribblers, again something that lacked last year.
 

Galatasaray20

Registered User
Theres going to be a Patch Available tomorrow, People please stop crying over stupid little things, AI,Goal Keeping, 3D support, and hopefully full roster will be there tomorrow
 

Swift-Fu

Registered User
I posted this in the MLO thread, but I figured I would post it here too. Since this is where the negativity resides.

I love MLO. I really do, but I just had two matches end because of poor connection to the other user, and it charged me with disconnecting. One more, and I am not allowed to play in competitions. That will really piss me off if that happens.

I hope that Konami will fix that because, I live in the USA and sometimes I will be playing people from Japan, therefore the connection is poor. I shouldn't be held responsible for poor servers.
 

Kefir

Registered User
They need to fix the running/sprinting bug as well.

Ill tell Hatoshi right away.

Edit: found him in the toilets. He is going to fix it now.

Follow me on tweeter for an update.

He will get coffee at 4 oclock.
I posted this in the MLO thread, but I figured I would post it here too. Since this is where the negativity resides.

I love MLO. I really do, but I just had two matches end because of poor connection to the other user, and it charged me with disconnecting. One more, and I am not allowed to play in competitions. That will really piss me off if that happens.

I hope that Konami will fix that because, I live in the USA and sometimes I will be playing people from Japan, therefore the connection is poor. I shouldn't be held responsible for poor servers.
Konami will hold you responsible. Just be happy you wont serve any time.
 

DIECI

Registered User
I usually play 4-5-1 or a 4-2-2-2 and use a standard backline with sometimes opting for offside traps. zonal marking is key in this years addition as it was severely lacking last year. If an opponent is smart enough to swing the ball around and get a 1 on 1 i man mark and slightly call for help and back pedal. Timing has become crucial for getting the ball off good dribblers, again something that lacked last year.


hey, like I said yesterday, I needed more time with the game.... Last night 6 online games.... 4 wins, 2 draws NO losses.... Allowed 2 goals in those 6 games and only one in open play. Now thats more like it! :cool:

Results :
Inter 2-0 Real
Juve 1-1 Barca
Juve 3-0 Benfica
Napoli 1-0 Galatasaray
Juve 2-0 Arsenal
Milan 1-1 Barca * (the opponent's goal on a PK)
 

iamcanadianeh

Registered User
MLO - I think the balance is out of whack because of the fact that players who are speed merchants are too unstoppable. It ruins the game when all the goals are dribbling goals through the entire team and a rounding of the keeper. Needs to be addressed in a patch big time IMO.
 

DIECI

Registered User
MLO - I think the balance is out of whack because of the fact that players who are speed merchants are too unstoppable. It ruins the game when all the goals are dribbling goals through the entire team and a rounding of the keeper. Needs to be addressed in a patch big time IMO.

I thought the same thing 2 days ago but now I think the game is fine, the speed merchants are very stoppable. We are used to playing defense a certain way, in 2011 you could play up with your defense, You could cheat and still recover and stop the speedsters like Messi, Ronaldo etc because of the catch up bug in that version. This year you have to becareful, stay back and try to push them off the ball with X and trap them with R2 to take the ball from them. Look at my scores from last night, all those teams I played against have speed merchants but non of them really did much by their running because I figured out how to close them down. Trust me, once you figure it out you'll be fine.
 

iamcanadianeh

Registered User
DIECI - Still, I have strong defenders and DMF, above 80 even 85 body balance, 80-85 speed, 80 plus defense, 80 plus responsiveness, and five players all swarming C Ronaldo can't stop him from dribbling from past half though the team and scoring. They are all over him but he's like superman. I guess it's players with stats like his, not just the speed merchants that are too superhuman.

Also, I consider the fact that players like him can score easy goals by rounding the keeper every time a glitch. In contrast it's too hard to score one on one with the likes of Di Natale with 95 shot accuracy. Having a speed merchant is too rewarding IMO and needs to be toned down or else the longevity will suffer for me anyway.
 

p34semm

Registered User
Played demo countless times and try as I might I don't like it. The fact that Jon Murphy said demo 2 is the retail version makes me even more disappointed. So much so I have cancelled my pre-order that I made in June. Yes they will patch keepers but the whole game just dont feel right.
As a fan since ISS on SNES I'm gutted that my love of pes is pretty much over. They won't nor get anywhere near pes 4,5 or 6 and that's a shame.

Roll on the demo for pes13!!!
 

mason5r

Registered User
Played demo countless times and try as I might I don't like it. The fact that Jon Murphy said demo 2 is the retail version makes me even more disappointed. So much so I have cancelled my pre-order that I made in June. Yes they will patch keepers but the whole game just dont feel right.
As a fan since ISS on SNES I'm gutted that my love of pes is pretty much over. They won't nor get anywhere near pes 4,5 or 6 and that's a shame.

Roll on the demo for pes13!!!

FAIL lolz

PES 2012=VERY FUN AND GOOD GAME
 

Kefir

Registered User
Ill tell Hatoshi right away.

Edit: found him in the toilets. He is going to fix it now.

Follow me on tweeter for an update.

He will get coffee at 4 oclock.

Konami will hold you responsible. Just be happy you wont serve any time.

Hatoshi just went to bed now. He has transferred C. Ronaldo from Sporting to Man Urs, Zico to Sao Paolo and Zidane to Juventus.

Make sure to follow me on tweeter for another update
 

waywardcloud

Registered User
Having a speed merchant is too rewarding IMO and needs to be toned down or else the longevity will suffer for me anyway.

yea they need to balance out the speed merchant thing. Its better than last year but still kinda lame. Especially because if you are defending 1on1 against a speed merchant and call for help, the runner just takes the help defender with him as i m backing up. And if i do go into make the tackle, 2 defenders will end up running with the speed merchant. Its way to easy to go in and out like idiots.

Crossing is way easy. Instead of circle x 3, u can go to the corner and hit circle once and the ball lands on cfs head.

Also fouling its way too easy, run into ppl as a defensive strategy. Maybe a foul count on a specific player like 3 fouls get a yellow should be added in.
 
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