MysteryMan
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Ronaldo wannabe, pfft
Is this grass or ice? wtf is this sh**
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Ronaldo wannabe, pfft
Decent vid, but WTF is that at 0:45? :huh:
Let me make this clear. I am not happy about no rain.
But at this point in time do I really care about rain? No. After 2 years of not playing football games (last I enjoyed was pes 2011 and before that, fifa 09 and 10), I think that it would be stupid to care about add ons and not care about the core of the game.
I could have a finished game and call it a finished game, BUT if the core is not done right, what would be the point?
At this point in time, for me, the game play is the only thing that matters because in all honesty, if the game has rain but bad gameplay, does rain really matter? NO. I would still stop playing it.
Even stadiums. If the game turns out good, I would end up feeling annoyed by the fact that there's only 20 or so stadiums. But at least, I would still keep on playing because the enjoyment does not come from add ons or enhancements, it comes from the core gameplay especially in football games.
I stopped playing pes 13 even though it had rain and a stadium editor. Why? Because it had other huge problems with the AI, defensive AI and scripting.
NO.
If I pay £40 for a game then I expect a complete game. No question asked.
I DEMAND up to date, varied commentary.
I DEMAND all the same features that were in the previous game, the game that this one is meant to be improving on.
I DEMAND, like Fifa, to have a good, varied soundtrack of at least 30 songs.
I DEMAND good presentation.
I DEMAND top quality online service, which rarely lags and has various options that are available in Fifa but not previous PES games.
I DEMAND that the gameplay isn't riddled with game-destroying faults and glitches, and provides a enjoyable gaming experience.
You can't provide that Konami? Then you won't receive a penny of my money.
And I will buy from EA instead, a company that is actually competent and cares about their games.
NO.
If I pay £40 for a game then I expect a complete game. No question asked.
If a game is made which is only good in one aspect, even if that one aspect is the most important one then it should sell for approximately half the price of a complete game.
I say months ago that PES would do as they always do and take as many features out of the game as the features the put in. NOT GOOD ENOUGH for me to pay £40.
This is 2013, if I pay £40 then.....
I DEMAND up to date, varied commentary.
I DEMAND all the same features that were in the previous game, the game that this one is meant to be improving on.
I DEMAND, like Fifa, to have a good, varied soundtrack of at least 30 songs.
I DEMAND good presentation.
I DEMAND top quality online service, which rarely lags and has various options that are available in Fifa but not previous PES games.
AND
I DEMAND that the gameplay isn't riddled with game-destroying faults and glitches, and provides a enjoyable gaming experience.
You can't provide that Konami? Then you won't receive a penny of my money. And I will buy from EA instead, a company that is actually competent and cares about their games.
You have had 5 years to make a good,complete football game and you have failed. In the end you have got what you have deserved, a franchise which nobody cares about anymore. PES is dead in the UK and thank god for that, justice for all the money you have stole of me.
I get it, but you failed to understand the point of hierarchy I raised. I know that a game needs to have the complete package, but would you rather have a package with on and off gameplay? Or would you rather have a less of a package with engaging gameplay? That's the question you need to answer.
NO.
If I pay £40 for a game then I expect a complete game. No question asked.
If a game is made which is only good in one aspect, even if that one aspect is the most important one then it should sell for approximately half the price of a complete game.
I say months ago that PES would do as they always do and take as many features out of the game as the features the put in. NOT GOOD ENOUGH for me to pay £40.
This is 2013, if I pay £40 then.....
I DEMAND up to date, varied commentary.
I DEMAND all the same features that were in the previous game, the game that this one is meant to be improving on.
I DEMAND, like Fifa, to have a good, varied soundtrack of at least 30 songs.
I DEMAND good presentation.
I DEMAND top quality online service, which rarely lags and has various options that are available in Fifa but not previous PES games.
AND
I DEMAND that the gameplay isn't riddled with game-destroying faults and glitches, and provides a enjoyable gaming experience.
You can't provide that Konami? Then you won't receive a penny of my money. And I will buy from EA instead, a company that is actually competent and cares about their games.
You have had 5 years to make a good,complete football game and you have failed. In the end you have got what you have deserved, a franchise which nobody cares about anymore. PES is dead in the UK and thank god for that, justice for all the money you have stole of me.
Sup Shaun? It goes back to the point I made earlier......its 2013-2014 and most of us are looking for a the complete package.
Why after buying over 10 copies of ProEvolution Soccer year after year would anyone now say in 2013 they want gameplay over add-ons that were previously in the game?
Why should we lower our standards but not our pockets? When will they ever get the basics right?
Again, i do understand where you are coming from with getting the gameplay correct before concentration on other stufff......but i think we have passed that period a loooong time ago.
Hope they have taken that boot stat boost stuff out of master league this year.
Don't get me wrong though, I agree with this 100%. I am simply saying that since it's been long since I last played a good football game, I would rather give up all the features in exchange for good gameplay because at least, the gameplay will keep me coming back and playing. The features won't.
That's unfortunately the desperate state of football games today. In my eyes, if they could nail the gameplay back on, then the features can come after. But at least, we would have a very solid base to build upon. Not to mention the ps3/ 360 getting super old with only 512mb of memory and the 360's lack of blu ray disks.
And replace them with magical snoods and underwear?