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Sammy Gunner, You've done an absolutely amazing job. Well done.

+100 IMO: This game has the same 2 positives it had in 2008, and the same 200 negatives that it had in 2008. It's just another shitty cover up job on a broken and antiquated PS2 game disguised as a next gen footie sim. A disgrace to football.

Haha. Pathetic PS2 engine still on rails. FIFA 13 by 8 miles. (And I haven't even played FIFA 13 yet)

Agree completely with both of these posts. This game is simply a disgrace to football. Further, the devs have absolutely no clue how to fix it (or even make it believable). Same fundamental problems in 08 ARE STILL HERE! More silly features and half-ass attempts to cover the flaws are on the...

Again, well said Amateur. Groundhog day. Seems like the same crap every year. Konami spend all their time trying to fool its' customers into thinking they've improved the game, rather than actually improving the game. I've given them roughly $300 for PES 08, 09, 10, 11, 12; of those games, I...

Great post Amateur.

THE statement of pes 2012!!!

Spot on again. Turning control off to force gameplay and action. Pathetic. Seriously, in what year will I be able to move my goalkeeper after he catches the ball? How I wish a third company would make a game. As it is now, FIFA (for ME), although not great, is still MILES better than pes...

The same stuff that basically happens in offline vs. the AI. Can't change players/changes to irrelevant players, inexplicably sprinting my CB forward for no reason other than to let the opponent chip the ball straight down the middle for a breakaway, guys running away from the ball consistently...

There is also definitely scripting in the online games. And it's not due to lag or it would be noticeable throughout the game as opposed to specific times within a game. Doesn't matter as Konami and EA (EA is hilarious, I can't think of one thing they do well, except for marketing) will never...

Ha. Took me less than a week of serious gameplay. I can admit I was wrong. Nice shiny gloss.

Maybe Sabatasso. All I know is that when my opponent makes a pass, my players aren't frozen (when I'm controlling them) or deliberately running away from the ball. And the ball isn't magically attached to the attacker in FIFA. And I can intercept passes when I'm standing in front of the ball in...

I learned how to counter it too..... Play FIFA.

I used to experience it frequently.

Yep. That's what finally sent me to FIFA (among other things). I got so sick of scripted/fixed online games that I'd had enough.

Played 1.03 for the first time today and I must say it felt much, much better. I wasn't fighting konami and the animations much, if at all. Was even able to play fully manual in MLO with no lag. Players seemed to know where the ball was at all times. No silly running away. All good stuff. ...

We keep buying it because apparently only TWO companies think a footie game is worth producing. It sucks completely. The fact that there's no competition does not negate that. I know I will never buy either game EVER again though. (At least I hope I can control my love for the game; 2K where you...

HAHAHAHA. The other day you were saying I was smoking something for arguing how poor this game is....And this is how you have to play your great sim?? Let the computer do everything? Sounds like great fun, I know that's why I buy football games :no: ....but I'm glad you're finally...

Sim type game?? PES is as arcade as it comes. And I'm smoking crack?? HAHAHAHAHAHA Ok Deici. My points are valid. And i'm not the only one making them. For me I won't eat a piece of shit just because it's seasoned. "And that's that."

Oh please. You have said the same flaming nonsense in every post on this forum. Even the pro-pes guys are sick of you. You're simply a muppet, and when you get called out you throw out some pathetic apology like a little boy. Or you threaten to quit the forum like a spoiled child (of course you...