2 Hours 12 Minutes to Konami Conf.

[wowie]

The crowd is what can make a game great. I want to hear rival factions in derby matches. I mean you play as Liverpool and for 10 mins straight all you hear is "when the reds go marching in" maybe crowds in North Korea chant the same thing over and over but irl crowds have a variety of chants. this is something that really needs to be improved upon one chant per team is not enough. I say 10 chants for the big teams maybe 5 for the smaller clubs and for the derbys an additional 3 unique chants not to much to ask for

In reality, that won't take very much work. Very little tbh. However, it will take up a LOT more space. Because the space constraints are limited, I doubt Konami will be adding 5-10 chants for a team, even the likes of Liverpool or Barcelona.

It would be nice, but I just don't see it happening. What I do expect is that at least the crowd's cheering temp and rhythm will change with the flow of the match.

 

[Tech_Skill]

For the record, these jokers writing on the main page just dont get it.

Bascially the Joker who writes interferring with play was blabbing on about how he believes pes 2010 can be the greatest game of all time, and how the trailer was not a worrying sign that this years game might be up to par.

My question to this bloke and anyone else is the following.

If the trailer doesnt represent the true nature of the changes made to the PES SERIES and there are these great ideas we dont know about, why did konami opt to shows us the tactics gage and nothing else? If they had something better to show or let us know about, would they have done that?

Example, lets say Konami have got full 360 movement, passing, shooting the lot.

Then if they are making a trailer to show at e3, doesnt it make more sense for them to at least mention something about these amazing changes rather than some tactics gage no cares about.

Its not making sense, either Konami have great ideas but their PR sucks..... and having seen that crap from Jon Murphy about the US market as an explaination for that dire e3 showing, im starting to think this could be a possibilty.

Or

They dont have all these great ideas to tell us in the first place.

Smoke and mirrors to me.

Murphy chats about there being no point in having a playable early code at this stage, because the game isnt ready yet and people would just criticise it. I agree to an extent, that's what CLOSED DOORS FEEDBACKS SEESIONS are for, you know Jon, Kinda like what EA having being doing since April.

I dont know why they bothered annoucing pes2010 if they had no real valuble information that they could sell to customers, makes no sense.

PES2010 was announced BEFORE Fifa10, yet fifa has tons more information about it.

And PES2010 was meant be spending 'years in the making'

Either their PR sucks, or their ideas aint there.

 

[Amateur]

For the record, these jokers writing on the main page just dont get it.

Bascially the Joker who writes interferring with play was blabbing on about how he believes pes 2010 can be the greatest game of all time, and how the trailer was not a worrying sign that this years game might be up to par.

My question to this bloke and anyone else is the following.

If the trailer doesnt represent the true nature of the changes made to the PES SERIES and there are these great ideas we dont know about, why did konami opt to shows us the tactics gage and nothing else? If they had something better to show or let us know about, would they have done that?

Example, lets say Konami have got full 360 movement, passing, shooting the lot.

Then if they are making a trailer to show at e3, doesnt it make more sense for them to at least mention something about these amazing changes rather than some tactics gage no cares about.

Its not making sense, either Konami have great ideas but their PR sucks..... and having seen that crap from Jon Murphy about the US market as an explaination for that dire e3 showing, im starting to think this could be a possibilty.

Or

They dont have all these great ideas to tell us in the first place.

Smoke and mirrors to me.

Murphy chats about there being no point in having a playable early code at this stage, because the game isnt ready yet and people would just criticise it. I agree to an extent, that's what CLOSED DOORS FEEDBACKS SEESIONS are for, you know Jon, Kinda like what EA having being doing since April.

I dont know why they bothered annoucing pes2010 if they had no real valuble information that they could sell to customers, makes no sense.

PES2010 was announced BEFORE Fifa10, yet fifa has tons more information about it.

And PES2010 was meant be spending 'years in the making'

Either their PR sucks, or their ideas aint there.

Personally, my Interest has really gone out the window... I know I shouldn't judge on such a short Teaser -but- then again, they said the same things with 08 and 09.

Anyways, Either their PR sucks, or their ideas aint there?? I also think Most of their Fans suck. They are always talking about completely irrelevant things, always defending PES, always very intolerant of negativity... it's simply childish, and there isn't a healthy level of maturity amongst fans.

The Feedback is NOT what I would expect from grown ups.

Now I'm beginning to understand Why so many "hardcore" fans do not even bother Voicing Their Opinion on WENB or the "home" page of PESGaming. It's pretty much pointless. Although I'm hoping things change.

But all things aside, I hope both PES10 and FIFA10 are great games.

 

[wowie]

Personally, my Interest has really gone out the window... I know I shouldn't judge on such a short Teaser -but- then again, they said the same things with 08 and 09.

Anyways, Either their PR sucks, or their ideas aint there?? I also think Most of their Fans suck. They are always talking about completely irrelevant things, always defending PES, always very intolerant of negativity... it's simply childish, and there isn't a healthy level of maturity amongst fans.

The Feedback is NOT what I would expect from grown ups.

Now I'm beginning to understand Why so many "hardcore" fans do not even bother Voicing Their Opinion on WENB or the "home" page of PESGaming. It's pretty much pointless. Although I'm hoping things change.

But all things aside, I hope both PES10 and FIFA10 are great games.

100% agree with you two.

 

[proevofan88]

Personally, my Interest has really gone out the window... I know I shouldn't judge on such a short Teaser -but- then again, they said the same things with 08 and 09.

Anyways, Either their PR sucks, or their ideas aint there?? I also think Most of their Fans suck. They are always talking about completely irrelevant things, always defending PES, always very intolerant of negativity... it's simply childish, and there isn't a healthy level of maturity amongst fans.

The Feedback is NOT what I would expect from grown ups.

Now I'm beginning to understand Why so many "hardcore" fans do not even bother Voicing Their Opinion on WENB or the "home" page of PESGaming. It's pretty much pointless. Although I'm hoping things change.

But all things aside, I hope both PES10 and FIFA10 are great games.

But if you believe that its pointless to post why do you spend so much time on both sites writing huge essays...

It is true that we dont have much to stand on now ( especially after konamislast couple of efforts ) and yes most PES fans suck...all they talk about is how they want revamped master league, untucked shirts, more boots, more licenses, more stadiums and the like...but none of that will be worthwhile if the gameplay isnt there

BUT...we just have screenshots and little trailer to go on...so that means we have nothing...

just keep in mind guys ( especially amateur and tech_skill ) that this is only a game after all that we do NOT have to buy..

 

[Amateur]

But if you believe that its pointless to post why do you spend so much time on both sites writing huge essays...

It is true that we dont have much to stand on now ( especially after konamislast couple of efforts ) and yes most PES fans suck...all they talk about is how they want revamped master league, untucked shirts, more boots, more licenses, more stadiums and the like...but none of that will be worthwhile if the gameplay isnt there

BUT...we just have screenshots and little trailer to go on...so that means we have nothing...

just keep in mind guys ( especially amateur and tech_skill ) that this is only a game after all that we do NOT have to buy..

Why do I spend so much time doing pointless things??

Well, first of all I'm not spending much time this days... but it takes a while to realize "you know what, why the fuck am I even bothering with this... nobody really cares, and most of them just want to hear what they'd like to hear" "so why even bother with it".

I have posted on both WENB and PESGaming, but I'm starting to get bored of it... too many jumpy members who are ready to judge you the first chance they get, start calling one rude or arrogant just because I'm criticizing a game. It's not entirely pointless of course, but it's quite disappointing.

I mean, what's the point of giving feedback if a very large part of the fanbase do not know how to take Criticism for what it is, it's nothing personal, I'm just criticizing a GAME.

Too many people start getting personal over a fucking game. They start making unfounded assumptions that have nothing to do with PES. Too much intolerance towards proper criticism.

Most fans was not the word I was looking for. What I meant to say was that "Many Fans Suck". Maybe not Most of them, but certainly many of them do suck at giving feedback.

To be honest, I do have some Reserve Interest on PES10... I'm not going to keep lying about that. But at the same time, I find that too many fans are intolerant towards negativity, and always try to sound like they know better than you -instead- of just speaking their minds.

Who in their right mind can honestly say that the Teaser was actually good??

That said, I'm also a jumpy member whom is quick to judge, at times... So I'm not really in any position to criticize other members.

And it's also worth mentioning that members in the Forums of PESGaming are pretty laid back and cool about most things -and- completely different to the guys on the "home" page of PESGaming.

And also the guys at WENB are pretty laid back. And I'm just overreacting, as usual.

Anyways, I know it is a game, and if I don't like it I certainly won't buy it. Just like I never bought FIFA for the PS2. But I would still be disappointed if the game turns out to be another letdown.

BTW, do you consider 5 Minute Reads "huge essays" ??

 

[proevofan88]

Why do I spend so much time doing pointless things??

Well, first of all I'm not spending much time this days... but it takes a while to realize "you know what, why the fuck am I even bothering with this... nobody really cares, and most of them just want to hear what they'd like to hear" "so why even bother with it".

I have posted on both WENB and PESGaming, but I'm starting to get bored of it... too many jumpy members who are ready to judge you the first chance they get, start calling one rude or arrogant just because I'm criticizing a game. It's not entirely pointless of course, but it's quite disappointing.

I mean, what's the point of giving feedback if a very large part of the fanbase do not know how to take Criticism for what it is, it's nothing personal, I'm just criticizing a GAME.

Too many people start getting personal over a fucking game. They start making unfounded assumptions that have nothing to do with PES. Too much intolerance towards proper criticism.

Most fans was not the word I was looking for. What I meant to say was that "Many Fans Suck". Maybe not Most of them, but certainly many of them do suck at giving feedback.

To be honest, I do have some Reserve Interest on PES10... I'm not going to keep lying about that. But at the same time, I find that too many fans are intolerant towards negativity, and always try to sound like they know better than you -instead- of just speaking their minds.

Who in their right mind can honestly say that the Teaser was actually good??

That said, I'm also a jumpy member whom is quick to judge, at times... So I'm not really in any position to criticize other members.

And it's also worth mentioning that members in the Forums of PESGaming are pretty laid back and cool about most things -and- completely different to the guys on the "home" page of PESGaming.

And also the guys at WENB are pretty laid back. And I'm just overreacting, as usual.

Anyways, I know it is a game, and if I don't like it I certainly won't buy it. Just like I never bought FIFA for the PS2. But I would still be disappointed if the game turns out to be another letdown.

BTW, do you consider 5 Minute Reads "huge essays" ??

By huge essays i meant that most of ur posts are much bigger than other peoples. Aint nothing wrong with it. But if you say that its pointless to give feedback and criticize when nobody is listening...why would u post then?

Aint non wrong with ur points, i agree on most of em. But to go overboard over a trailer is just ridiculous. Its not just you, its everyone who just flipped over it for no reason.

I am very hopeful that this PES turns out good..no GREAT but idk if that will happen. If it doesnt who cares? nobody has to buy it.

 

[willmo]

By huge essays i meant that most of ur posts are much bigger than other peoples. Aint nothing wrong with it. But if you say that its pointless to give feedback and criticize when nobody is listening...why would u post then?

Aint non wrong with ur points, i agree on most of em. But to go overboard over a trailer is just ridiculous. Its not just you, its everyone who just flipped over it for no reason.

I am very hopeful that this PES turns out good..no GREAT but idk if that will happen. If it doesnt who cares? nobody has to buy it.

what?? you would not care if it was shit? c'mon mate, we are talking about the death of a series of games alot of us have grown up playing.

 

[paolojf]

Exactly, it's just a game. God, get a grip.

 

[requiem7]

funny how the graphics have improved while the gameplay has went downhill.

 

[proevofan88]

what?? you would not care if it was shit? c'mon mate, we are talking about the death of a series of games alot of us have grown up playing.

I would be very happy if it turns out to be like in the old days...but if it doesnt its not the end of the world?