Am I one of the few who dislike this game ? It is my first experience playing Pes on the new console. Previously, I only play it on PS1 and P'S2. I absolutely love the old winning eleven version just for it gameplay and the commentry is better on Japanese.
Offense
1)The passing is horrible. What is the difference in through pass and normal passing when almost all passes are overhit. The best is in the old PS 1 where timing is everything.
2)The static movement of the players. I played games where players are standing around, noone is running towards goal. Of course you can set the formation
but I feel koNami is lazy implementing. Every team is like in netural mode, Barca and Arsenal play like Stoke.
3)Another passing rant. The crossing system seem so random. The long ball looks the same everytime. One 2 passing is slow where you have to move the players. Why cannot the AI run when you press one 2.
4) Shooting from distance is too easy and overpowering. Long shots go in easily. The goals looks the same. Older version when you score there is satisfaction when the attack works out. Now I seems to score from no where.
5) Why are the AI scoring lobs for fun? 90% of the goals cconcede are lobs which the strikers do to perfection. The frustrating part is there is no variation. No bringing the ball around the keeper, no toe poke or even a normal shot. It will always be a lob.
6) Attacking corners I have situation where the box is empty with no targets to aim for. Most of the time, the cross is played in and the keepers will punch it out. You station one player outside the box and instant volley goals. Same sh.. happen when you are defending.
7)The forward turn slower or become lead footed as the difficulty ups.
Defense
1)The pressing results in fouls almost everytime. FYI
I am not the type that hold the press all the time. But the pressing here seem more to kicking the opposition.
2)There is a distinct lag or cheating when striker just outruns defenders on through ball. I even tested it by lowering the forward speed and increasing the defenders speed to the max.
3) Keepers are getting worse. Firstly the keepers play the same. There use to be a difference in keepers. The Khan and Buffon great keepers different styles, now no. Keepers punch at every corners, between outrun by forwards when coming out to clear the ball. This happen too often.
Tactics
1) What with the missing wingbacks ? There is no choice of wing back at all. What about 352.
2) I miss the arrows where you can direct players to do thir attacking. You used to have option of getting wingers to hug the line more or cut in or even track back. Or you can can the dmf to cover more on the weaker side.
3) I question why no more setting of the preset formation. I meant L2 square, circle triangle and x. You can get your team to play to a present formation, switch wingers, attck more on a certain side, get your defender to push forward as a attcker. It was a great implementation why was it not in here.
4) Tactics configuration is too complex. You have the kickoff formation, the offense with ball and without ball, the defense with and without ball plus plus the custom. Overkill.
5) commentary is really bad. I meant for all languages. I should have waited for winning 11.
Lastly Konami is getting lazy in getting the general settings right. You have to read on fourm to set the right tactics for the teams to get the right styles when playing against them. Most are playing possession which meant pass to defender after defender.This was against Arsenal for god sake. KoNami has depend too much on the community to edit and patch a faulty game. Now with Sony stupid decision, Ps4 has no way of applying patches. There is no way of getting better value in PES15. I really want to enjoy the game but this is a poor imitation of the we10. I get bored of the games fast, frustrated by the bugs I see. Goals look the same, there is lack of ball weight if you know what I meant. The edit mode is lacking too, cannot see how I can spend time editing every details which I did for ps2. The older version is quick to pick up but take time to mastered. Sorry, I just canNot enjoy the game at all. Really regret getting the digital version now I cannot sell it.
Offense
1)The passing is horrible. What is the difference in through pass and normal passing when almost all passes are overhit. The best is in the old PS 1 where timing is everything.
2)The static movement of the players. I played games where players are standing around, noone is running towards goal. Of course you can set the formation
but I feel koNami is lazy implementing. Every team is like in netural mode, Barca and Arsenal play like Stoke.
3)Another passing rant. The crossing system seem so random. The long ball looks the same everytime. One 2 passing is slow where you have to move the players. Why cannot the AI run when you press one 2.
4) Shooting from distance is too easy and overpowering. Long shots go in easily. The goals looks the same. Older version when you score there is satisfaction when the attack works out. Now I seems to score from no where.
5) Why are the AI scoring lobs for fun? 90% of the goals cconcede are lobs which the strikers do to perfection. The frustrating part is there is no variation. No bringing the ball around the keeper, no toe poke or even a normal shot. It will always be a lob.
6) Attacking corners I have situation where the box is empty with no targets to aim for. Most of the time, the cross is played in and the keepers will punch it out. You station one player outside the box and instant volley goals. Same sh.. happen when you are defending.
7)The forward turn slower or become lead footed as the difficulty ups.
Defense
1)The pressing results in fouls almost everytime. FYI
I am not the type that hold the press all the time. But the pressing here seem more to kicking the opposition.
2)There is a distinct lag or cheating when striker just outruns defenders on through ball. I even tested it by lowering the forward speed and increasing the defenders speed to the max.
3) Keepers are getting worse. Firstly the keepers play the same. There use to be a difference in keepers. The Khan and Buffon great keepers different styles, now no. Keepers punch at every corners, between outrun by forwards when coming out to clear the ball. This happen too often.
Tactics
1) What with the missing wingbacks ? There is no choice of wing back at all. What about 352.
2) I miss the arrows where you can direct players to do thir attacking. You used to have option of getting wingers to hug the line more or cut in or even track back. Or you can can the dmf to cover more on the weaker side.
3) I question why no more setting of the preset formation. I meant L2 square, circle triangle and x. You can get your team to play to a present formation, switch wingers, attck more on a certain side, get your defender to push forward as a attcker. It was a great implementation why was it not in here.
4) Tactics configuration is too complex. You have the kickoff formation, the offense with ball and without ball, the defense with and without ball plus plus the custom. Overkill.
5) commentary is really bad. I meant for all languages. I should have waited for winning 11.
Lastly Konami is getting lazy in getting the general settings right. You have to read on fourm to set the right tactics for the teams to get the right styles when playing against them. Most are playing possession which meant pass to defender after defender.This was against Arsenal for god sake. KoNami has depend too much on the community to edit and patch a faulty game. Now with Sony stupid decision, Ps4 has no way of applying patches. There is no way of getting better value in PES15. I really want to enjoy the game but this is a poor imitation of the we10. I get bored of the games fast, frustrated by the bugs I see. Goals look the same, there is lack of ball weight if you know what I meant. The edit mode is lacking too, cannot see how I can spend time editing every details which I did for ps2. The older version is quick to pick up but take time to mastered. Sorry, I just canNot enjoy the game at all. Really regret getting the digital version now I cannot sell it.
