C. Ronaldo is so overrated !!!
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MysteryMan
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You are clueless, go watch Barca when Messi isn't playing. It doesn't happen often but when it does the team looks toothless, it looks like another good side but nothing special, its Messi who makes the team out of this world and the best by far atm.
As for International goals how many does Ronaldo have, what has he done on international stage?
International stage is overrated, period.
a Few matches every few years like World Cup is supposed to show who the best player is? How stupid is that srsly, if we picked like that then Forlan would be the worlds best player by far.
how about you add some of the most important attributes for soccer players that you left out aswell
Vision - Messi
Creativity - Messi
Decision making - Messi
Mentality - Messi
Technique - Messi
Shot accuracy and placing - Messi
Finishing - Equal
Positioning - Equal
Agility - Messi
Teamwork - Messi
And I absolutely disagree with you.
I think Ronaldo is a more complete striker because of his skillset ( 2 feet, heading, athleticism )
I also think Ronaldo is a better athlete.
But while Ronaldo is a more complete striker Messi is a more complete and better soccer player without a doubt, he is leading in mostly all the important aspects for that which are Technique, Soccer IQ, Dribbling , Playmaking/Passing, Shooting/Finishing.
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS THREAD ABOUT?
The topic is that Cristiano Ronaldo is overrated in the game. NOTHING was said about Messi. People get on topic.
ON TOPIC: In PES5, when Henry was the cover star, he was literally untouchable. I remember Id play with a 4-4-2 and just gave Henry the ball and I could easily score 5 goals against a human opponent which, to this day, I cant with any other player.
Ive always had a theory that the cover star in PES always has some kind of "special edge". Dont know if its true or not, but...
The topic is that Cristiano Ronaldo is overrated in the game. NOTHING was said about Messi. People get on topic.
ON TOPIC: In PES5, when Henry was the cover star, he was literally untouchable. I remember Id play with a 4-4-2 and just gave Henry the ball and I could easily score 5 goals against a human opponent which, to this day, I cant with any other player.
Ive always had a theory that the cover star in PES always has some kind of "special edge". Dont know if its true or not, but...
Neox9114
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Overrated?! LOL If anything he is Underrated.... hes is breaking records of all sorts in La Liga and he gets a 95? wtf? he should be a 98.
The man is the pure essence of professionalism, he works hard and gives it all for his team.
The only reason people think he is arrogant is because he shows off his skills in the field (which as far as im concerned is within the rules of the game? trying to be the best....), but never has hes said he is the best and looks down upon others
He did say "They dont like me because Im rich, handsome and good".
which isnt a lie.... he models for Armani and almost every woman in the planet wants to fuck his brains out. He is the second highest earning player in the planet. And by god is the man a beast in the field.
The man is the pure essence of professionalism, he works hard and gives it all for his team.
The only reason people think he is arrogant is because he shows off his skills in the field (which as far as im concerned is within the rules of the game? trying to be the best....), but never has hes said he is the best and looks down upon others
He did say "They dont like me because Im rich, handsome and good".
which isnt a lie.... he models for Armani and almost every woman in the planet wants to fuck his brains out. He is the second highest earning player in the planet. And by god is the man a beast in the field.
DIECI
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relax with your personal attacks, did I not say he's great?? and NO its not true, Barca looks great even without Messi, they look worst when Xavi isn't there not Messi as does Spain....
MysteryMan
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You lack arguments which I provided that show how much better Messi is than Ronaldo, and its not because he plays for Barca, infact if anything its amazing how he manages to shine in a team with such players as Xavi and Iniesta. And lets not pretend Ronaldo plays for a pub club because Real Madrid is probably the 2nd best team on the planet atm.
Heres another argument btw
Ronaldo
422 games : 218 goals / 75 assists
0.5 goals per game
0.17 assists per game
...............................
0.67 goals/assists per game
Messi
280 games : 194 goals / 83 assists
0.69 goals per game
0.29 assists per game
...............................
0.98 goals/assists per game
Also Barca doesn't look bad without Xavi this is not 2008 wake up, last season Xavi didn't play a few matches and guess what Barca won and Messi was shining without Xavi, yet when Messi didn't play 2 times Barca struggled badly.
Its clear you don't watch Barca at all so my discussion with you over this matter is over.
Catalyst519
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Little theory? Get out. Most people will agree with me messi plays s*** for Argentina..... & he only scores @ Barcelona because he has such service around him! Unlike messi CR can carry a team. Also Messi only has 1 world cup goal, which throws his CL goals out the window. Also played horrible in south africa while CR did his best to help carry portugal in the group of death. :lol::lol:. Kids. Ah well.Messi plays far better for Argentina than CR does for Portugal tho... too bad ur little theory goes down the drain
MysteryMan
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Theory huh, how about practice:
[youtube]j1fr1Q3MHWw[/youtube]
Now show me Ronaldo's vid of his playing for Portugal trololol, what does he do besides score goals against village teams like north korea or Luxemburg.
Looks like your one of those ppl that never watch someone play for NT and then act all smart, but u got pwned serves u right.
Lol and theres messi ripping up the impregnable defense of.....South Korea
(PS.Sorry coulden't resist)
Jesus Christ man. Messi has to be your god. Do you pray everyday for him?? Messi just got himself a lawyer here
lmfao
ronaldo isn't great at international?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xp_94Dodbs this is one of the many videos of what ronaldo can do - sure it was offside but this alone few seconds video demonsrates his mentality(when he was angry at nani), skill, dribbling and shot technique.
Messi would just, as he normally would go down the middle and chip or round the keeper as he is so predictable and plain
ronaldo has by far better creativity than any player - just watch c.ronaldo tested to the limit by castrol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xp_94Dodbs this is one of the many videos of what ronaldo can do - sure it was offside but this alone few seconds video demonsrates his mentality(when he was angry at nani), skill, dribbling and shot technique.
Messi would just, as he normally would go down the middle and chip or round the keeper as he is so predictable and plain
ronaldo has by far better creativity than any player - just watch c.ronaldo tested to the limit by castrol
shaun7
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I write in CAPS to prove a point btw, not to sound like I am mad or something.
As for the debate.
Anyone who says messi needs xavi and ineesta to do well, is speaking out of his ignorance He DOESN'T.
Look at how Barca play. Whenever they get into a difficult sitaution, who will they pass the ball to? Xave? NO. Iniesta? NO. It's Messi. They have faith in him for a reason as he can pull through many difficult situations.
Also have you watched any of the Barcelona games? If so, this argument fails because of what I said above. And also, HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN HOW MANY ASSISTS MESSI CAN DO? How many perfect through and lofted through balls has he made?
Also, Messi does not play well with Argentina?
DO YOU WATCH THEIR GAMES? Just because he doesn't score, it doesn't mean that he plays bad. REMEMBER ALL THE ASSISTS IN THE LAST FEW GAMES? Assists count almost as goals because without the assists, there will be no goal.
Argentina play different so Messi can only shine with his through balls and passes.
But the argument here is that Messi does not need passes to shine, he can do it by himself with his incredible balance and close control.
Also Messi predictable? I do not think so. The defenders have the hardest of times dealing with him so HOW CAN THAT BE PREDICTABLE? If he cannot dribble past the defence, he will invent a lofted through ball. Argument over.
As for the debate.
Anyone who says messi needs xavi and ineesta to do well, is speaking out of his ignorance He DOESN'T.
Look at how Barca play. Whenever they get into a difficult sitaution, who will they pass the ball to? Xave? NO. Iniesta? NO. It's Messi. They have faith in him for a reason as he can pull through many difficult situations.
Also have you watched any of the Barcelona games? If so, this argument fails because of what I said above. And also, HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN HOW MANY ASSISTS MESSI CAN DO? How many perfect through and lofted through balls has he made?
Also, Messi does not play well with Argentina?
DO YOU WATCH THEIR GAMES? Just because he doesn't score, it doesn't mean that he plays bad. REMEMBER ALL THE ASSISTS IN THE LAST FEW GAMES? Assists count almost as goals because without the assists, there will be no goal.
Argentina play different so Messi can only shine with his through balls and passes.
But the argument here is that Messi does not need passes to shine, he can do it by himself with his incredible balance and close control.
Also Messi predictable? I do not think so. The defenders have the hardest of times dealing with him so HOW CAN THAT BE PREDICTABLE? If he cannot dribble past the defence, he will invent a lofted through ball. Argument over.
Catalyst519
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Agreed.
Catalyst519
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Messi's wife got online.
Catalyst519
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And also that's not true. you don't need assists to score goals, literally speaking there is something called a solo effort. Bring it all or don't come at all if you want to end an argument.
the amount of times messi got tackled by park ji-sung is impossible in the ucl final. When ronaldo is about to get tackled, he does something clever to fool the defender like a back-heel as he is unpredicted. When messi picks up the ball and there are 4 defenders are in front of him and noone is in support of him, i am 100% he will try skilling the whole team wheras ronaldo would would hold-up play because of his strength to push defenders away with his arm unlike messi or he'd keep possession. sure sometimes he gets past one.
Also messi is lazy - when he doesn't have the ball he does not try to get i back or even trackback and runs out of breath every time he runs wheras ronaldo has stamina as he is running every minute. barca vs madrid copa del ray, ronaldo was just chasing the ball like mad where messi just was walking around wiping sweat.
Also messi is lazy - when he doesn't have the ball he does not try to get i back or even trackback and runs out of breath every time he runs wheras ronaldo has stamina as he is running every minute. barca vs madrid copa del ray, ronaldo was just chasing the ball like mad where messi just was walking around wiping sweat.
Neox9114
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LMAO!
This is about C Ronaldo not Messi.
C'mon people no one cares about the midget :dwighthah: