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Can somebody please explain the "realism' in

JMTD

Registered User
Kind of like the times in real life when Rooney has been subbed when on fire or nearing a hat trick? Or when it happened countless times with Messi? It happens even when you're the best man on the pitch.
 

u1tradt

Registered User
If it looks like you've already won the game the manager's going to think about protecting his best players, particularly if you've got big games coming up.
 

OptimusPrime

Registered User
YoSo my manager is soooooo overprotective of me that he does it every game, every season,and also when we a re just 1-0 up....

How many games has wayne rooney or messi played the full 90 minutes????
I bet way more than they have been subbed because they coach "wants to protect" them

You've got to come up with a better excuse than that...


still waiting......
 

Ultimate777

Banned
Managers sometimes take off their best player if he plays a blinder in order to get a standing ovation from the crowd. That's usually when the game is done and dusted.

If you want realistic management experience play football manager instead of playing gimmick mode on pes11
 

OptimusPrime

Registered User
Managers take ppl off when they are save for the win and not^:no: when the score is 1-1 or they are 0-1 behind or 0-1 up...

So try again......still waiting
 

Ultimate777

Banned
Managers take ppl off when they are save for the win and not^:no: when the score is 1-1 or they are 0-1 behind or 0-1 up...

So try again......still waiting

Well I was talking hypothetically in regards to a real match not as a real possible outcome in relation to your dumbass gimmick bal mode.

How you expect realism and authenticity in that mode is beyond me. A game that has no respect for what time matches are played in master league, you expect there to be realistic substitutions and real reasons behind them?

Reality check son, there is no reason why you were taken off other than the fact its generic random subtition without any thought behind it placed in the game. Or you could believe it stems from the fact you support that shit hole of a team called liverpool as a reason for taking you off.
 

Sminky

Registered User
It'll be statistical lad, your player is probably knackered and the subs have higher overall and general stats than you. Tis the way of things.
 

OptimusPrime

Registered User
Well I was talking hypothetically in regards to a real match not as a real possible outcome in relation to your dumbass gimmick bal mode.

How you expect realism and authenticity in that mode is beyond me. A game that has no respect for what time matches are played in master league, you expect there to be realistic substitutions and real reasons behind them?

Reality check son, there is no reason why you were taken off other than the fact its generic random subtition without any thought behind it placed in the game. Or you could believe it stems from the fact you support that shit hole of a team called liverpool as a reason for taking you off.
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When plain reasoning ends up in cussing lets you know that the person trying to "debate" your topic is either:

- Under the age of 15:happy:
- Has NO counter objectives:no:
- Needs to STOP taking this game SO SERIOUS..:cool:
- Needs to get out of the house more ;)
- Needs a GF and a good Shag :sheep: or at least a :jack:

Basically need to kill himself....:crymore:
 

OptimusPrime

Registered User
It'll be statistical lad, your player is probably knackered and the subs have higher overall and general stats than you. Tis the way of things.

Ok so meaning that when i am the legend I will stop being subbed??

I have played BAL since it came on the scene..and your right some editions you could notice that , but with the stats in this one increasing at a pace Miley Cyrus's popularity.....

This will mean I will stop getting subbed when I'm retired ????:shocking::shocking:
 

Ultimate777

Banned
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^^^^^^
:w00t:w00t:w00t

When plain reasoning ends up in cussing lets you know that the person trying to "debate" your topic is either:

- Under the age of 15:happy:
- Has NO counter objectives:no:
- Needs to STOP taking this game SO SERIOUS..:cool:
- Needs to get out of the house more ;)
- Needs a GF and a good Shag :sheep: or at least a :jack:

Basically need to kill himself....:crymore:

You utter spastic. You create a thread wanting to know the reasons behind a substitute in bal mode as if there'll be any and you make out I'm the one who needs to get out of the house, a girlfirend and take the game too seriously while a using name from transformers lol

Reason went out the window the minute you started searching for explanations on substitutions in bal mode where there aren't any son. You were crying about the refs on the game previously like a bitch and you want to act as if I take the game too seriously.

And what the fuck would a spotty faced jacked up piece of shit like you know about girlfriends and sex anyway? Go on what experience have you got? Tell me a story
 

OptimusPrime

Registered User
You utter spastic. You create a thread wanting to know the reasons behind a substitute in bal mode as if there'll be any and you make out I'm the one who needs to get out of the house, a girlfirend and take the game too seriously while a using name from transformers lol

Reason went out the window the minute you started searching for explanations on substitutions in bal mode where there aren't any son. You were crying about the refs on the game previously like a bitch and you want to act as if I take the game too seriously.

And what the fuck would a spotty faced jacked up piece of shit like you know about girlfriends and sex anyway? Go on what experience have you got? Tell me a story

See my last reply and seriously make that last line a reality..;)
 

Ultimate777

Banned
See my last reply and seriously make that last line a reality..;)

So you havent really got a life then. Just full of worthless talk with no substance trying to pass off as if you have any experience with women.

Next time keep your mouth shut and I wont expose you for the lowlife ugly bum that you are.
 

Sminky

Registered User
Ok so meaning that when i am the legend I will stop being subbed??

I have played BAL since it came on the scene..and your right some editions you could notice that , but with the stats in this one increasing at a pace Miley Cyrus's popularity.....

This will mean I will stop getting subbed when I'm retired ????:shocking::shocking:

Not really, once you get up to a reasonable level you should be ok but it depends how much sprinting you do during a match along with how low your stamina is too.
 

jackass

Registered User
Yes that is correct, although stamina is a reason for being substituted. When you sign for a club you'll see a match oppertunities percentage meter, the higher this is the more likely you will get to play full 90 mins.

I recently signed for Feyenoord (with match oppertunity being around 80%), not only am i now earning £211k/yr as compared to the poor £21k/yr when playing for Lazio (my last club), since the players are more my level i have never been substituted once in the 8 games i've player for them so far.
 

OptimusPrime

Registered User
hmmmm ok i will check upon that..

But based upon realism that isn't the way to go..As a manager I wouldn't subb my starplayer if i felt i wasn't save for the victory...

The way I see it is that Konami built in a safety mechanism to either blatantly cheat you out of a win in the last 20 minutes..

The percentages of when the AI scores during BAL is high in those 20 minutes your not in the game....

That's my opinion
 

jackass

Registered User
I do admit BAL is significantly flawed as far as the AI goes as well as the fact that you can be the best player and be subbed 60 mins in the game (it usually is always 60 mins), I had a match where I was called up to the England squad, we won 4-0, being the assist for the 1st and scoring the 2nd and 3rd, and I was substituted at 60 mins.

I got a rating of 8 but in the play where this happend the manager comment was at the end of the game was "Simply Awful", I mean wtf was up with that?
 

OptimusPrime

Registered User
Precisely my point...had the same in england scored 4 goals against Norway and got subbed and according to the manager ..my performance was..meeeh...

Its like I said ..there's no realism in BAL
 

Avelives

Registered User
while a using name from transformers lol

Says the man with the gayest/geekiest forum avatar I've ever seen... I mean wrestling seriously mate if your into american wrestling you dont have the right to insult other peoples taste.

Honestly mate you really need to have a word with yourself. This is a forum for people to comment on PES (both negative and positive)

So why when someone doesn't like something, or points out an obvious bug do you see the need to get all pissy with them and act like they should thank Seabass for even allowing them to buy his game regardless how broken, buggy it is, despite living up to barely half the hype that was pushed by Konami.

You might enjoy bending over and being shafted by game developers but most people dont, most people if they think somethings shit complain and do something about it, they dont just go... 'Its a game deal with it' which seems to sum up your responses 90% of the time.
 
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