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nickpring

Registered User
ATH10 said:
neotez shevchenko should have the penalties special ability

I disagree. Even though Andriy scores his penalties for Milan, He misses all the important ones. E.g) Champions League Final, and, World Cup 2006 Second Round. He is a lethal finisher for Milan, and takes his penalties well, but, when it comes down to important penalties, he bottles it.
 

ste_ellis92

Registered User
can someone do the stats of the energetic midfielder Momo Sissoko.
This is a player who needs a huge update. He has been great for Liverpool since we signed him and he showed what he is about against Chelsea in the Community Shield. his default stats have alot of low ratings.
 

tingdaman

Registered User
Marquez4 said:
can anyone PLEASE make Ronaldinho, and maybe Eto'o!!!

ronaldinho's been posted somewhere in the thread, but its from an external site [evo-web?]. its definately been done though.
i'm pretty sure bagrunnel will put sissoko on his list of requests, and he said he'll be back by tomorrow which must mean this thread will be going better than it has been since he went on holiday!
 

bagrunnell

Registered User
Hey guys, hope all is well in England! Wrapping up a final few days in France now, so expect to see some edits up as soon as Wednesday. To be honest I cant wait to get back, have lots o plans, which hopefully you will find just as exciting as I do!

I have briefly skimmed the thread and people seem to be doing good, but forgive me for not reading thoroughly as I have no real time on the internet. Cant wait to get back in the flow of things, and here are a few of my immediate plans.

1) Get this Ballack/Lampard comparison up

2) Andre Shevchenko

3) Frank Ribery

4) Momo Sissoko

Remember this is just a taster, so expect more!

Cheers guys.
 

mufcsean

is LOST
Good to see you are coming back, but i am going away for two weeks tomorrow so i will have to catch up on your work when i get back, something to look forward to coming back :tongue:
 

escobar94

Registered User
i think riquelme is in need of a little tuning athletics are fine but i do feel even at these high levels his passing should better...he is world class in this department maybe THE best imo anyway....i think his pass acc. maybe 95/6 and speed low or mid 90's....what u think?
 

Les Gones

Registered User
Ferdinand Comparison

Hu ? No Rio Ferdinand - Anton Ferdinand Comparison ??
I thougt that was a good idea of me ?? (Srry for my bad English ;))
 

escobar94

Registered User
Riquelme isnt quite right as i sed before, not knocking u mate, done a great job with these players but i dont think riquelme feels right ingame based on these....especially his balance if u watch him he is very strong on the ball to compensate for his lack of pace can hold up play and dictate????
 

bagrunnell

Registered User
Well obviously I feel Riquelme is right ingame, else I wouldnt have posted those values. But if you feel you want to put his balance up a bit, go for it, but I would say anywhere above sort of 82/83 is starting to overrate him. 79 is the right value for me because like you said, he IS strong. Not like a bull or anything, and certainly no Adriano, or Campbell, but he does have good strength. (Although I would disagree he uses this to hold play up, but thats irrelavent) A value of 79 will give him that the appropriate strength, bearing in mind that 79 is just about 80 which is high!

Its all about perception of what a value dictates ingame. What do we class as 'average', and having the right perception. You may think certain values look low on paper, but when you play with them you get high standards. Its about knowing where the correct level is, and having right judjement. Easiest example would probably be shot accuracy. You may think that a value of say 75 for shot accuracy isnt high, but when you play with that value, you can actually place ball accurately and consistently. So its about knowing what a value actually dictates ingame, and not just what it looks like on paper.

So by all means raise Riquelme's balance if you feel that is appropriate, but make sure you are completely aware of the right standards, and what it will dictate ingame.

Oh and sheva is coming soon:)
 

tingdaman

Registered User
cool cool, i watched a bit of shevchenko recently [most recently the community shield] and he looks in good shape. what did you think of neotez's shevchenko stats?
 

bagrunnell

Registered User
Shevchenko



Attack - 97
Defence - 44
Balance - 87
Stamina - 85
Top Speed - 84
Acceleration - 81
Response - 95
Agility - 83
Dribble accuracy - 83
Dribble speed - 83
Short pass accuracy - 72
Short pass speed - 76
Long pass accuracy - 73
Long pass speed - 76
Shot accuracy - 96
Shot power - 86
Shot technique - 93
Free kick - 82
Curling - 83
Heading - 85
Jump - 85
Technique - 86
Aggression - 93
Mentality - 85
Goal keeping - 50
Team work ability - 85
Consistency - 7
Condition - 7
Weak foot accuracy - 6
Weak foot frequency - 6

*Scoring
*1-1 Scoring
*Positioning
*Lines
*Middle shooting
*1-touch pass


Now in my opinion, I believe Chelsea have made one of the best signings possible. Here is a player who is the definition of a goal scorer, and has one of the most impressive scoring records. Since breaking onto the European scene spearheading Dynamo Kiev's attack, his immense success attracted much attention, and unsuprisingly the big boys of Europe, AC Milan lured him. Voted European footballer of the year, and winner of Serie A, Champions league, Italian supercup to name a few, he has finally been prised from Milan by a whopping thirty million from Chelsea's chequebook. Probably the greatest loss for Milan, and the greatest gain for Chelsea, it seems that the premiership champions have aquired a player whom can provide them with easily twenty plus goals a season, and the European thrust which they desperately desire. Having said all this, it is shocking that Konami got a lot of his features wrong, and he is a player with which an update is definitely required.

Predatorial instinct, and strikers gift - So the first noticable thing is that he has immensely high values in key areas for strikers. His attack is 97, response 95, aggression 93, and he has both the positioning and lines stars. He has supreme awareness of both his own positioning, and of surrounding players, and is second to none at getting the right position, EVERY time. If defenders go to sleep, they will be punished. There is no getting lucky with Shevchenko, and if defenders give him half a yard, he will turn that half a yard into a goal. He also gets up to join in with every attack, even if we see him starting in deeper positions, so in that sense he is outstanding aswell. To put it simply, I would say he has the best positioning sense and awareness there is, seconded probably by RVN. All these features are EXACTLY what Chelsea have missed in the past, and it seems now Shevchenko will become paramount to their success this season. They may have had success with Drogba and his team work, but when he is put along side Shevchenko, the difference in class is huge, and it doesnt bode well for other premiership teams. Just look at the Charity Shield match to see how Shevchenko overshadowed Drogba.

Physical attributes - Another great area of Shevchenko is that he couples his instincts with strength, pace and a hefty jump. He has the pace to run at players, the strength to outmuscle them. In short he has the ability to create things for himself, not just be provided. This sets him apart from a player like RVN. While RVN has the same outstanding positional sense, Shevchenko can pick up the ball on the halfway line, and run and barge at defenders all day long. His mobility is great, and his pace carries him around the pitch coupled with his high stamina. This is something Chelsea lacked with Crespo; he was a box player, nothing more. With Shevchenko, you can stick him out on the wing, and he will have just as much success, so in that sense he has a certain versatility to him in that he is capable of playing across the width of the field, not just the centre. Its hard to emphasis just how good a player he is in terms of mobility and getting him self around the pitch, and creating chances for himself. It is something you dont see now in players. A player may have one of these great features, if you are lucky, two. But Andrei wraps all these features up into a 30 million pound package:laugh:, and it is outstanding when you stand back and look at it!

Natural finisher - So he has the pace, power, instinct and mobility, what next? Well I dont like to use the word 'outstanding' to often, but it is extremely appropriate describing Andrei's finishing. He is an elite finisher, rivalled only by the likes of Ronaldo, Henry, RVN, and is just another tool in his armoury. 96 shot accuracy and 93 shot technique are testament to his superb accuracy and ability. He is one of those players who it is never in doubt will score in 1-1's. Look at his goal against Liverpool. If it was Drogba, or Darren Bent, or Defoe, you might have an element of doubt, but with Shevchenk you can jump out your seat safe in the knowledge that it is rolling in the corner. (Well I did:laugh:!) I debated for a while whether or not middle shooting is appropriate, and I would leave it up to you whether to use it or not. I use it now, mainly so we can get those non rotating shots which Sheva can definitely produce from distance, and he is definitely potent from range. I dont think I need to say anything about the scoring and 1-1 scoring special stars! He takes a great free kick, so check out his stats in for accuracy and curling, and has lovely heading ability. With feet or head, from distance or close range, he can score. Simple as that.


Thats really all I want to say about him. I am sure everyone is aware of him, but I cannot give him enough praise. He is the best all round striker in my opinion, even slightly edging Henry. The ability to read play is a rare gift especially in strikers, and he utilises it to the best effect. He finishing, awareness, positioning, attacking willingness are second to none. Add to this great pace and strength, heading ability, stamina and mentality, and the will and desire, and you have a player whom I can only describe as a true football legend.

Oh physique and boots coming soon people.
 

ShevaCheva

Registered User
bagrunnell said:

Attack - 97
Defence - 44
Balance - 87
Stamina - 85
Top Speed - 86
Acceleration - 94
Response - 95
Agility - 85
Dribble accuracy - 85
Dribble speed - 85
Short pass accuracy - 80
Short pass speed - 80
Long pass accuracy - 73
Long pass speed - 76
Shot accuracy - 97
Shot power - 90
Shot technique - 95
Free kick - 82
Curling - 83
Heading - 85
Jump - 85
Technique - 90
Aggression - 95
Mentality - 85
Goal keeping - 50
Team work ability - 85
Consistency - 7
Condition - 7
Weak foot accuracy - 6
Weak foot frequency - 6

*Dribbling
*Scoring
*1-1 Scoring
*Positioning
*Lines
*Middle shooting
*1-touch pass


Now in my opinion, I believe Chelsea have made one of the best signings possible. Here is a player who is the definition of a goal scorer, and has one of the most impressive scoring records. Since breaking onto the European scene spearheading Dynamo Kiev's attack, his immense success attracted much attention, and unsuprisingly the big boys of Europe, AC Milan lured him. Voted European footballer of the year, and winner of Serie A, Champions league, Italian supercup to name a few, he has finally been prised from Milan by a whopping thirty million from Chelsea's chequebook. Probably the greatest loss for Milan, and the greatest gain for Chelsea, it seems that the premiership champions have aquired a player whom can provide them with easily twenty plus goals a season, and the European thrust which they desperately desire. Having said all this, it is shocking that Konami got a lot of his features wrong, and he is a player with which an update is definitely required.

Predatorial instinct, and strikers gift - So the first noticable thing is that he has immensely high values in key areas for strikers. His attack is 97, response 95, aggression 93, and he has both the positioning and lines stars. He has supreme awareness of both his own positioning, and of surrounding players, and is second to none at getting the right position, EVERY time. If defenders go to sleep, they will be punished. There is no getting lucky with Shevchenko, and if defenders give him half a yard, he will turn that half a yard into a goal. He also gets up to join in with every attack, even if we see him starting in deeper positions, so in that sense he is outstanding aswell. To put it simply, I would say he has the best positioning sense and awareness there is, seconded probably by RVN. All these features are EXACTLY what Chelsea have missed in the past, and it seems now Shevchenko will become paramount to their success this season. They may have had success with Drogba and his team work, but when he is put along side Shevchenko, the difference in class is huge, and it doesnt bode well for other premiership teams. Just look at the Charity Shield match to see how Shevchenko overshadowed Drogba.

Physical attributes - Another great area of Shevchenko is that he couples his instincts with strength, pace and a hefty jump. He has the pace to run at players, the strength to outmuscle them. In short he has the ability to create things for himself, not just be provided. This sets him apart from a player like RVN. While RVN has the same outstanding positional sense, Shevchenko can pick up the ball on the halfway line, and run and barge at defenders all day long. His mobility is great, and his pace carries him around the pitch coupled with his high stamina. This is something Chelsea lacked with Crespo; he was a box player, nothing more. With Shevchenko, you can stick him out on the wing, and he will have just as much success, so in that sense he has a certain versatility to him in that he is capable of playing across the width of the field, not just the centre. Its hard to emphasis just how good a player he is in terms of mobility and getting him self around the pitch, and creating chances for himself. It is something you dont see now in players. A player may have one of these great features, if you are lucky, two. But Andrei wraps all these features up into a 30 million pound package:laugh:, and it is outstanding when you stand back and look at it!

Natural finisher - So he has the pace, power, instinct and mobility, what next? Well I dont like to use the word 'outstanding' to often, but it is extremely appropriate describing Andrei's finishing. He is an elite finisher, rivalled only by the likes of Ronaldo, Henry, RVN, and is just another tool in his armoury. 96 shot accuracy and 93 shot technique are testament to his superb accuracy and ability. He is one of those players who it is never in doubt will score in 1-1's. Look at his goal against Liverpool. If it was Drogba, or Darren Bent, or Defoe, you might have an element of doubt, but with Shevchenk you can jump out your seat safe in the knowledge that it is rolling in the corner. (Well I did:laugh:!) I debated for a while whether or not middle shooting is appropriate, and I would leave it up to you whether to use it or not. I use it now, mainly so we can get those non rotating shots which Sheva can definitely produce from distance, and he is definitely potent from range. I dont think I need to say anything about the scoring and 1-1 scoring special stars! He takes a great free kick, so check out his stats in for accuracy and curling, and has lovely heading ability. With feet or head, from distance or close range, he can score. Simple as that.


Thats really all I want to say about him. I am sure everyone is aware of him, but I cannot give him enough praise. He is the best all round striker in my opinion, even slightly edging Henry. The ability to read play is a rare gift especially in strikers, and he utilises it to the best effect. He finishing, awareness, positioning, attacking willingness are second to none. Add to this great pace and strength, heading ability, stamina and mentality, and the will and desire, and you have a player whom I can only describe as a true football legend.

Oh physique and boots coming soon people.



I made a few fixes to your stats. Sheva has a freaky fast acceleration. If you watch him closey his first steps are very fast and I think what Konami gave a rating of 94 was spot on. His speed is still pretty much the same so 86 is spot on. Shit shot power should definitely be in the 90 plus range.
 

bagrunnell

Registered User
Im sorry, but having looked at what you did to the stats, I can see two possibilities;

Firstly, judjing by your CP, you are a huge sheva fan and have the need to make him better

secondly, you dont have correct standards.


Now I am by no means knocking you here, and certainly not insulting you. But I have to say that I see this all the time. You wuoldnt believe how many messages I get from United fans saying Carraghers overrated, or Liverpool fans saying that Rooney needs to be lowered. It is bias and it is very common, and it would seem to me that you have it to. I still cant believe you think he is underrated though, as he has very high values in lots of categories, but still.....

And I am willing to bet that you have a very poor idea of where the correct 'standard' lies, and what certain values represent ingame. For example, you have given him short pass accuracy of 80. Do you realise what this will enable him to do in the game? This is a perfect example of what I was mentioning earlier about people not knowing what correct standards are. And you say that 86 i shot power is low?:shocking: Do you realise how hard a player can hit a ball wih 86 shot power? And as for him having 94 for acceleration, I have to say that that is ridiculous. Like I said, do you know what players with a value of even 75 are capable of? A player with 75 short pass accuracy can play defence cutting through balls, 76 for shot accuracy can put the ball in top corner from 25 yards. Just because a value is not yellow or red, a lot of people view it as rubbish. I see it all the time.
 
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