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Damn all EAfootball games

Ouroboros

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FIFA is ok, not terrible, but not a patch on PES. I remember the first time I played PES (before FIFA was all I knew :(), and I just though "Wow. This is so much BETTER! It feels like real football!"

However I will not buy a FIFA game anymore because they are made by EA, whose recent actions (buying exclusive rights to NFL license (not that I like/follow american football, It's just a truly low thing to do, and a bad omen for the future :(), buying out Ubisoft etc) have just crossed the line. However I'm certainly not Konami's biggest fan, it's more of a lesser of two evils thing :)

One thing konami could learn from EA is how to make decent ports! PES on the PC is a masterclass in shit coding...
 

CtrlAltDel

Registered User
i dont have a problem with EA buying the rights to the NFL license, anyone else could have done it, so it was fair game. the ea fifa games are pretty too look at, and them having all those licenses is nice, but the game plays too unrealistic, which is why we are all here playing we/pes.

first time i played we/pes i was in the same spot ouroboros is thinking 'this is better...it feels like real football'
 

slamsoze

Registered User
FIFA 2005 mistake!

I played FIFA 2005 and if found many bugs to the referee.He blows stupid fouls he does nt give advantages and the offsides are really disapointing!
 

Nowudi

New Member
Who's the Daddy?

I have always been an EA Sports FIFA Football fan and had never tried Pro Evolution Soccer Series (I think it was because when I started playing FIFA on the PC PES was a console only game). However the FIFA 2004 effort had me spitting feathers with the score from anywhere with ease and the downright neglect in the menu system (they wouldn’t even let you map your own keys…and as for creating your own tournaments, forget it! They weren’t going to let you design your own tournies with Euro 2004 coming up and them wanting to punt a version of that!)

Anyway, all that really mugged me off and I decided that PES4 on the PC would be my first foray into the PES experience at the expense of FIFA 2005. So I loaded up PES4 and immediately saw what the FIFA series had over PES…official Licenses. It was disappointing to see my team described as Old Firm Blue and all the other British Teams (and most of the others) with equally unlikely monikers. So a took a quick look on the PES Forums and soon found the brilliant Wolf Furry Evolution patch that (on the pc at least) restored all the proper names, strips and flags to the teams (all hail Wolf Furry or whatever their names are for taking the time and trouble to produce this excellent patch for nothing…you have made thousands of people very happy!).

Now as a FIFA veteran I was in for a few surprises in the game play stakes. I tried to run up the field skipping past the opposition with a quick press of the acceleration key (no chance). I tried quickly passing it without looking where it was going as on FIFA an aimless pass would inevitably end up on one of your players feet (it didn’t work either!) In front of goal I tried blasting the ball in the general direction of the goalmouth and expected to see it nestling in the back of the net (My Shots went sailing over or wide every time) I tried the set piece free-kicks and corners which, once you had worked it out, resulted in a goal every time on FIFA (It was impossible to replicate the same move every time on PES)

As I played more of PES4 I realised you had to take your time, to build up moves and to be composed in front of goal. As I did the rewards began to reveal themselves - engrossing games that required real concentration. If you played a weaker team and didn’t give it the same concentration as a cup final, they would beat you. Each game was individual – no exploiting the same move for an easy goal as in the FIFA games. I slowly began to realise what the defining difference was between these two franchises - FIFA was about aesthetics while PES was about an accurate simulation of a football game. I had stumbled upon football gold and to think if it wasn’t for the rip-off that was FIFA 2004 I would probably never have tried it – thanks for that at least EA Sports!

As a little postscript I saw FIFA 2005 at a bargain price on the Internet and after reading some rave reviews decided to give it a chance. And to my surprise it was actually quite good with a good tourney construction option (better than PES4’s) and game play that seemed oddly familiar. I soon realised that the boys at EA Sports had been peeking over the shoulders of the PES boys and as a result there were many allusions to the gameplay of PES in the new FIFA game – no more shooting from anywhere or charging through the opposition. If you can’t beat them join them I suppose. However, PES has a jump on FIFA on having the experience in producing a proper simulation and definitely comes out tops overall.

There is a place for the FIFA series of course and those who like all the glitzy razzmatazz with maybe less challenging game play would be well placed going for FIFA. PES is more of a true simulation and therefore a bit more down and dirty. In general terms I think that FIFA would appeal more to a younger audience (say under 14’s) while PES is a more mature game. I am sure there are under 14’s out there who prefer PES and older players who prefer FIFA but generally I think my statement holds true. PES could take a few lessons from FIFA2005 in the menu and options stakes but the boys and girls at the FIFA franchise will be doing most of the note taking for the foreseeable future.
 

CtrlAltDel

Registered User
Strikergoal said:
I don't think that the FIFA 2005 graphics are anything to write home about, and I use a 6800GT graphics card. I much prefer the graphics of PES4- especially when patched (kits, ad boards etc). The 'Broadcast 2' camera view, beats anything that FIFA 2005 offers!! As far as realism is concerned, I like both styles of game. I prefer to play FIFA 2005 online- and it is extremely good fun when played a good opponent (who doesn't use dirty tactics like long 'Off the Ball' 'bullet' passes, and dirty fouls etc). With PES 4, I find it far more of a 'deep', immersive game- and prefer to play it against the computer.

FIFA 2005= Fast-paced arcade action.
PES4= slow-paced simulation action.

I don't know why people can't enjoy both games! :/


you just proved my point and didnt even notice

by 'looking better' i meant that it had all the licenses, etc, w/o having to download a 400mb patch, or add in the various parts you want to by hand like we do for pes/we.

my biggest complaint about pes/we on the pc right now is the lack of 360 degree support...the 8-way circa 1994 controls suck and are annoying
 

Matt2005

Registered User
Now PES 4 is imense, it beats FIFA games anyday i reckon. i think the best FIFA games that can out tho was FIFA 99
 
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