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Demo gameplay First Impressions

Sabatasso

Banned
I see plenty of stupid comments on this forum, but your just so desperate to try and get a raise out of me even when i post a tongue in cheek comment you will be all over that shit like flys.You just make yourself look pathetic all the time,you crave the attention of me like a child.Don't reply to me or ever converse with me on this forum again.Good day.

Maybe I read fewer posts than you do, and have a different view than you about what's stupid. I don't crave your attention at all, really, because I never look forward to reading your replies. In fact, I don't care if you reply at all. But if it makes your day, you can believe whatever you want for all I care.

I can't promise I won't converse with you on this forum, but you don't have to reply. In case you didn't already know, you never have to reply to anything here.

By the way, you started the thread, but have hardly contributed anything noteworthy in line with the title of the thread. Why do you keep posting when you have nothing to say? You pollute your own thread...
 

89cruefan

Registered User
Played some more games and i have a few more things to add

Passing could be improved a little, Making passes go futher when you ask it to would be nice. But appart from that passing is decent.

Tackling could be better, it does seem a bit too easy to giv away free kicks.

Something i am happy about is no more stupid off sides like in 2011. That has been fixed and i am happy about that.

@89cruefan

Goalies have improved? u must be on some strong crack

In terms of from pes2011 they have improved yes... Like i said in my other post, they still need improving and work being done, but it is a positive that they seem to be attempting and trying to make them better

+1

And didn´t winningelevenblog.com review a similar code saying it was the best Pes ever?
Some peeps just like sucking cocks :)

Just because you and some other peeps dont like the demo... Doesnt mean that everyone has to agree and not like it... And it doesnt mean that people who like it are sucking cocks....
 

Makavelian

Registered User
Sabatasso, are you always arguing with someone?

He's on my ignore list







Anyone know the date for the release of the next demo?
 

ftgpete

Registered User
Just been playing the japanese demo aka winning eleven and its much better, the players make better runs, passing is smoother and goal keepers are less retarded.


But I've notcied lately that the defending is turning out to be like Fifa, in which unless your controlling your defenders, then they are retards. I know defenders make mistakes and thats how goals are scored but some of them are just ridiculous.


Lofted balls are almost impossible to defend against, even if your defender is 5 inches taller, the AI will try everything to make sure you will lose it. Cursor switching is still a problem, in crosses my cursosr keeps switching all the time and makes it difficult to defend any ball in the air. Defenders keep a very poor structure, in which one defender will for some retarded reason stay way back for the AI to score. One time my whole defence was up and I thought istantly 'taht's offside' but then on reply, Paulo Canvaro was 30 metres behind everyone else allowing Nani to score.


After playing the Winning Eleven demo, I'm much more positive about the second demo.
 

ftgpete

Registered User
Is winning eleven going to have multiple demos,or could it be that this is what the second pes demo is going to be like.

From what I gather from other forums, the US and European demo is a lot more compressed. Don't know why, but it seems they rushed the European and American relsese, not to mention the US and Xbox demo was/is delayed.

There wern't major differences which I hope is in the second one, just minor ones which make the game better, mainly the goalkeepers are better. The Japanese one they still palm it, but at least they don't let in through balls into goal like the European one which I played :tongue:
 

PESnut

Registered User
Is winning eleven going to have multiple demos,or could it be that this is what the second pes demo is going to be like.

The Japanese demo is about a 90% representation of the final game.
The majority of game play seen in the demo is as per the final version, the final 10% will consist of stat updates/transfers and tweaks to animations otherwise much of what you have seen on the Japanese version will not change. For the record the Euro demo is represents approx 85% of the final game.
 

Makavelian

Registered User
The Japanese demo is about a 90% representation of the final game.
The majority of game play seen in the demo is as per the final version, the final 10% will consist of stat updates/transfers and tweaks to animations otherwise much of what you have seen on the Japanese version will not change. For the record the Euro demo is represents approx 85% of the final game.

Going of what @ftgpete has said,that doesn't look to promising for the full game.
 

ftgpete

Registered User
Well that's very conflicting to have I've read, many people have stated that the first demo is hybrid and is the earliest code and the most stripped down code that they have played of the game. Obviously thats from people who have had exclusive plays at the other codes and might be kissing Konami's ass a bit, but thats all we can go by for now.

And if the demo is that complete, then what is the point of releasing the 2nd one if it will be exactly the same? They may as well just release one, wouldn't be very smart to release two demos which are the same now would it?


Guess we'll find out in two weeks.
 

ftgpete

Registered User
PESnut, I see you wrote that in the demo review thread as well, if you can show me a link where he says that then it would be much appreciate it.


If that's true than that would be a massive dissapointment.
 

canguro

New Member
I played the PS3 demo. I liked the new version of PES but I´d like a couple of thing to be checked.

From most important to least:
-Improve shooting power, many shots at 80% full bar seems like a pass to the GK
-Improve GK, long distance shot that are easy to catch are bounced back by the GK just in front of him. In real life, GK deflects ball to the sides NEVER in front of them where the opponents DCs are. Also, long distance shots need to be cach with GK hands, not feet. It seems every long shot taken is tried to be stopped with GK feet, thats awkwards.
-Improve through pass. Make them go where the player is facing, I want a pass close to the corner so the player run there, but the pass goes 1 step in font of the player allowing the defence to take position.
-The AI is better, but its impossible to defend 1 on 1. CPU DC can pass through a complete defence without blinking. Balance AI dribbling a bit.
 

PESnut

Registered User
PESnut, I see you wrote that in the demo review thread as well, if you can show me a link where he says that then it would be much appreciate it.


If that's true than that would be a massive dissapointment.

I read it via Twitter, somewhere on the Jon Murphy page, come to think of it, i guess it could be bollocks, at least I hope it is!
 

PESFan92

Registered User
I've been playing FIFA 11 for about an hour now. I've noticed one thing which is annoying(It maybe im slightly tipsy but whatever). NO MATTER what team you choose. You can ALWAYS play the same way. In FIFA, I chose Milan and I was passing the ball around like Barca at will. Second game, I was Chelsea, again same way quick passing.

This was the case with PES2011. I will say one thing, If I notice from the X360 demo that you can't play the same way with every team and you can't play like Barcelona with every team, and the computer don't pass around you like Barca, I will buy this game. This is the one thing which annoyed me with PES2011 alot and one reason it caused me to have so many broken knuckles.
 

techboy11

Registered User
Okay so here's my take it on it all. Been playing now for a good few days, and have probably played around 30 games or so. I have played in Top Player mode in all my games, setting cursor change to semi-assisted, passing assistance to zero, and all other assistance settings off. I wanted to play the game from the same starting palette each and every time, so here goes.

Goalies - When I started playing the goalies seemed poor, diabolical even. The first matches would see me ship in 3-4 goals, where almost all of them I thought were rubbish goalkeeping. Don't get me wrong, they still leak that odd one which you think is an absolute travesty and that Stephen Hawking's could have done better, and you'd be right. However, the more I've played the game, and got better at defence, the more I'm seeing the keepers pull off some lovely saves and do what they are supposed to do, including a fair number of one on one saves.

Passing - not really decided on this yet if it's good, bad, indifferent. Sometimes I feel that the passing is just a little off, even with no assistance settings. I can't explain what I really mean, so I can't emphasise anything more in that sometimes the passing just does something completely what I didn't intend to do, and sometimes the power bar doesn't reflect where it goes (or where In intended it to go). Have to have more time on this.

Shooting - sometimes feels a bit floaty, and sometimes you can hit a belter. I lost a game one-nil to Man Utd yesterday as Napoli, and Lavezzi (sp) hit a wonderful strike that hit the underside of the bar before bouncing back out, that was a genuine wow moment.

The art of defending - Now, I really, really like the defence aspect this year. I have NEVER been a pressure whore, I always kind of defend the way this game intends for me to defend, that is to cut space and hardly tackle, so in a way I feel like I'm going to be completely rewarded this year. BUT, sometimes the attacker ghosts past the best defenders in the world a little too easy, it's like this cheat animation that they just shuffle past in a kind a 'cheat programme' way to make that one good chance for the AI.

General play - I like it. Teams set up well, the CPU cuts down space and pressures when needed, but they also back off and concede ground if you have partially opened them up. Now the one thing that is getting on my nerves is the lack of penetration I find myself having in all situations when I have overlaps on the counter attack. When I have crafted that wonderful break neck breakaway, I feel my strikers are never really active in looking to pounce the defence and break away for me, instead the move always inevitably ends up being slowed right down, giving time for the CPU to re-organise. So I'm just a bit cheesed off that my attacking AI isn't making breaks. Now I know everyone will jump on me and say, well use the right stick thingy for trigger runs, but I thought the whole purpose of the active AI was that it wasn't really needed, or that in essence, your strikers would at least be more active without the need for you to trigger anything.

Possession - I'm kind of mixed on this. Out of the said 30 games I've had more possession in every game but about two or three. But it could be the way I play as generally in all footy games, I average about 58% possession when playing FIFA or PES online. The good thing for me is that I hardly ever out-shoot my opponents, and indeed, in some games I can barely register a shot on goals.

Setting the team up to play for you - This is BIG in PES this year I feel, and really shouldn't be underestimated. Generally I look to play with the default teams and settings just to 'get into the game'. But I do feel this year PES could be onto something big time in terms of the tactical side to the game. You really do have to learn how to play with that team. For some reason, I play far more effectively when I play with Santos than say Manchester United for example. It took me five games to win with Man Utd yesterday. I also like using Porto for some reason, but get ripped apart when I play with Napoli. So there's something in there for everyone I believe, and this could be great as it may see the end (or near enough) of exploits.

So where do I sit - well firmly still on the fence.

I hate FIFA's lifeless Manager Mode, but have been playing a lot of FIFA online lately. Now when you play pressure whores and lobbed through ball artists, the game is a mess. But when you play someone like minded, FIFA online is fabulous. PES Master League I loved, but the game got a little too easy on Top Player, and when I'm signing Iniesta as Liverpool and winning the League and Euro's in my second season, alarm bells were ringing. I loved PES2011 for all it's failings. PES 2011 online is a joke, so I won't go there. My underlying thought for the demo though, and this is just my two pennies worth, is that there's something wrong, something unfinished. This year needs to be the year where it's a completely finished, polished product. I understand it's a demo, I understand that many people who are in the know say this is early code and there's lots left out from the final version. I am willing to trust the sources and Jon Murphy and Seabass et all, in this respect for this year only.

BUT, if the demo is nearly the finished article like many on here believe, and we have been duped this year, that is it for me and Konami.

I have NEVER been a FIFA boy, always PES. But this is the year where both companies have to step right up to the plate and deliver. We're in the year 2011 now, they deserve to give us the gamer a break, so here's hoping for two good football games, that can be enjoyable, whilst trying to eliminate all potential game breakers and cutting down any conceivable exploits to a minimum.
 
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