menaceuk
Registered User
Score is Irrelevant. If you read both reviews they are very positive for each.
Plus IMO FIFA should score a bit higher. It has better presentation and a ton more Licenses.
Fifa 13 Vs PES 2013
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Score is Irrelevant. If you read both reviews they are very positive for each.
Plus IMO FIFA should score a bit higher. It has better presentation and a ton more Licenses.
wallpaper_01
Registered User
I feel I can answer this fairly as I have no allegiance like some to a game.
My background:
Fifa International to Fifa 99
Pro Evolution Soccer 2 to Pro Evolution Soccer 2008
FIFA 09 to FIFA 10
Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 to Pro Evolution Soccer 2012
My favorite games in terms of enjoyment are Fifa99 and PES3,4,5,6.
I thought FIFA 09/10 were ok but PES 2008/2009 were shocking so this was why I bought these.
I played the hell out of PES12 and really liked it, it felt like a return to PES of old.
I HATED FIFA12 its a bloody awful football game, I'm sorry its just not fun and feels nothing like football to me (I play real football every weekend locally).
However, I always play the demos of both games unlike my friends who just play FIFA and slag off PES. I was pleasantly surprised by FIFA. Passing is 100% better than the year before and I found myself feeling like I was playing with the real players and enjoying it!
In goes the PES demo, I can tell that it is an improvement on last year but I was not wowed really, I think PES will probably be the better game but take longer to master and find the new stuff. (I know PES has always been the harder game to pick up and play anyway).
So all in all I felt a little confused about which to get, I definitely felt more enjoyment playing FIFA than PES for that short time... I'm confused! I think FIFA has come on leaps and bounds. But you know what, I played PES12 so much that I think I'm less excited about the next version because it feels very similar!
I feel like maybe I should miss a year and carry on with PES12, that way when FIFA14/PES14 arrive I will notice more and feel more excited about the games! Or should I go with FIFA13 for a change?
Does anyone feel the same?
I think the 9.5 they gave it last year was idiotic... It should have scored less than PES last year, this year I think it should get an 8.5 and PES an 8.
From my short time with both demos anyway
Looking at your list I pretty much agree with that. FIFA does seem a little better gameplay this year though I think.
One thing that pisses me off is that PES looks far better than FIFA but all my mates say FIFA does, EA are bloody brilliant at marketing a game, they have thrown in so much money for advertising that you believe the game is better looking when its not!
EA is like the Apple of the game world!
My background:
Fifa International to Fifa 99
Pro Evolution Soccer 2 to Pro Evolution Soccer 2008
FIFA 09 to FIFA 10
Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 to Pro Evolution Soccer 2012
My favorite games in terms of enjoyment are Fifa99 and PES3,4,5,6.
I thought FIFA 09/10 were ok but PES 2008/2009 were shocking so this was why I bought these.
I played the hell out of PES12 and really liked it, it felt like a return to PES of old.
I HATED FIFA12 its a bloody awful football game, I'm sorry its just not fun and feels nothing like football to me (I play real football every weekend locally).
However, I always play the demos of both games unlike my friends who just play FIFA and slag off PES. I was pleasantly surprised by FIFA. Passing is 100% better than the year before and I found myself feeling like I was playing with the real players and enjoying it!
In goes the PES demo, I can tell that it is an improvement on last year but I was not wowed really, I think PES will probably be the better game but take longer to master and find the new stuff. (I know PES has always been the harder game to pick up and play anyway).
So all in all I felt a little confused about which to get, I definitely felt more enjoyment playing FIFA than PES for that short time... I'm confused! I think FIFA has come on leaps and bounds. But you know what, I played PES12 so much that I think I'm less excited about the next version because it feels very similar!
I feel like maybe I should miss a year and carry on with PES12, that way when FIFA14/PES14 arrive I will notice more and feel more excited about the games! Or should I go with FIFA13 for a change?
Does anyone feel the same?
I think the 9.5 they gave it last year was idiotic... It should have scored less than PES last year, this year I think it should get an 8.5 and PES an 8.
From my short time with both demos anyway
Looking at your list I pretty much agree with that. FIFA does seem a little better gameplay this year though I think.
One thing that pisses me off is that PES looks far better than FIFA but all my mates say FIFA does, EA are bloody brilliant at marketing a game, they have thrown in so much money for advertising that you believe the game is better looking when its not!
EA is like the Apple of the game world!
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Ali
It is happening again
From my time with the demos, I'd I'd give PES a 7.0 and Fifa a 7.5.
Off the pitch, Fifa presentation is better. On the pitch, PES is better. The player likenesses (is that a word? :unsure
are very good, compared to Fifa's zombies. One thing that still irritates me about the PES presentation is that all player names are in CAPS - I think it looks untidy. Plus, they need to start giving players a first name, like Fifa does.BTW, instead of double (or rather triple in your case) posting, use the edit button to modify your post. I've merged your last 3 posts into 1. If you want to quote more than 1 post, use the multi-quote button, which is the one like this - "
wallpaper_01
Registered User
From my time with the demos, I'd I'd give PES a 7.0 and Fifa a 7.5.
Off the pitch, Fifa presentation is better. On the pitch, PES is better. The player likenesses (is that a word? :unsure
BTW, instead of double (or rather triple in your case) posting, use the edit button to modify your post. I've merged your last 3 posts into 1. If you want to quote more than 1 post, use the multi-quote button, which is the one like this - "
I'm not a massive fan of the FIFA menu's, just think there is too much going on, but not played much over the last few years so maybe just need to get used to it.
Online is where it's at for me, never liked the FIFA ranking system, seems like Call of Duty, you don't loose points always gaining, so someone crap who has played more games could have more points than someone good who played less games. Don't know if this has changed? Like losing points when playing bad.
Ah yeah I usually don't just got a bit excited! :w00t
Ali
It is happening again
Fifa menus are rubbish IMO, and also boring. I remember the variation of menus back in the old EA games, now they all just seem to be black an white! Even in Madden/NHL etc. It seems like PES is going down the same path with identikit menus.
I'd agree with you about the ranking system. Do you not lose points? I'm sure you used to, at least back in 2010. I played 2010 quite a bit, and was actually pretty good at it. Was beating the USA no.2 ranked player 3-0 until he brought it back to 3-3 by playing a cheesy 5 up front formation.... I hate cheesers!
I do like the PES ranking system, although it adds more frustration if you go on a losing streak and your points drop rapidly.
No worries on the double posting, everyone gets a bit giddy around release day.
Amateur
Registered User
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Daniel Krupa:
"This unpredictability is at its most obvious when it comes to first-touch controls. Your players are no longer endowed with supernatural skill when it comes to taking balls out of the air or running onto passes at speed. If you don’t use your skill, there’s a pretty good chance they’ll fumble the ball and lose possession.
It makes the game immediately less accessible. You’ll groan when your player takes a heavy touch when you’re through on goal, but that’s something which happens every week in the best leagues around the world. Yet it never becomes game-breaking or frustrating, and this is thanks to a rationale behind it all.
Several factors conspire to determine the quality of your first-touch: speed of the pass, spin on the ball, the speed and relative skill of the player receiving it. Over time, you’ll come to learn how to improve your first-touch – for instance, don’t run on to a pass at full speed, or perhaps knock it on using the right analogue so you don’t have to take you finger off sprint.
This isn’t the only gameplay innovation. Last year defending was a focus for change with the introduction of ‘Tactical Defending’........"
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In a nutshell, that really is the reason why I will not bother with PES13 nor FIFA13 this year. Who gives a fuck if a heavy touch that consequently fucks up the entire play that lead up to it, happens every week in the best leagues around the world?
What a load of complete and utter bullshit. You want to know what also happens every week in the best leagues around the world?
You see, you actually see, how human beings can move their entire body one way, and then move the ball the other way; why? Because in real life, ball movement, and body positioning, are not one factor (as they are in both PES13 and FIFA13), but several factors that complement one another in multiple ways.
That writer (Daniel Krupa), is trying to "brainwash" the consumer, into believing that because now I need to release a simplistic sprint system (yes the sprint system is still very arcade/simplistic and requires little to no learning curve) before each first touch on the ball, because running on to a pass at full speed consistently produces a heavy first touch: is an actual improvement? The rationale behind it?
That a sprint system, which requires little to no learning curve due to the fact that the sprint system is completely and utterly shallow, clearly not taking into account momentum nor inertia nor many other factors involved in running and dribbling: well, the rationale behind the brilliant "first touch" system of FIFA13, is that you now need to release the sprint button, before having your first touch on the ball....
What a tremendous touch of brilliance..... We have evolved, from having to press and hold the R2 slow dribble button whenever we get close enough to the defender, to having to release the fucking sprint button whenever we get close enough to the incoming pass: an improvement? No. It's the same old fucking bullshit, supported by better marketing/advertising strategies.
The new improvements of FIFA13, as written by Daniel Krupa, can be summed up quite simply: "Over time, you’ll come to learn how to improve your first-touch – for instance, don’t run on to a pass at full speed, or perhaps knock it on using the right analogue so you don’t have to take you finger off sprint."
Or in other words, as I would put it: things such as running on to a pass at full speed and expecting the player to have perfect ball control, you cannot do such things any more, but does this system offer something new that you could not do before?
No...... ball movement and body positioning are still one factor, the game remains virtually identical, so these so-called "innovations" are nothing more than a slightly more sedated arcade game, that even though more sedated, at the core, remains identical.
It still is impossible to receive a pass, and before actually having your first touch on the ball, predetermine via first touch controls, that you want to control the ball with the right foot and then with the right foot pass the ball on to your left foot so that you can kick the ball with the left foot; or that you want to use your first touch on the ball, in an effort to chip ("sombrero") the ball over the defender in front of you, run past the defender, and then with your second touch on the ball, continue with the play.
The moral of this rant?
Minimizing/sedating the flaws of a system, does not actually amount to an "innovation" nor to an actual improvement, and it certainly does not make the system any less dumber nor smarter. Having to release the sprint button before having your first touch on the ball? Does not sound fun, not on paper, and I can confirm, not on the pitch.
There are many things that you will see in real life football, that can be effectively simulated by a video game. However, should "bad luck" be simulated? How does a heavy non-perfect first touch, that you can only try to control by controlling the acceleration of a sprint system that is highly automatic, amounts to something that is both consistent and fun?
Well it doesn't, slightly releasing the R2 sprint button after each pass and before each first touch, is not fucking fun: yes, it doesn't allow you to receive a pass and have a perfect first touch whilst running at full speed, every single time..... but (and this is the important point)..... having to slightly release the R2 button right before you receive each pass, does that actually requires enough skill?
It doesn't. With FIFA13, as with PES13, I'm expected to pretend, that because it is slightly more difficult for "speed exploiters" to exploit the obviously flawed game, that the game will be a more satisfying experience, when in fact the game remains the same insubstantial joke it's always been, with the only real difference being the fact that perhaps "speed whores" will not win as consistently as they did with FIFA12 and PES12.
And I'm sorry to say this, but consistently loosing matches against people who exploited speed, was never much of a concern for me: my disappointment with the game had nothing to do with the consumers who exploit the obvious flaws, my disappointment with the game was/is mostly determined by the limitations of the system itself.
So logically, the new "first touch" system that FIFA13 has introduced, with the clear intention of minimizing the importance of speed: well, I don't see why the game will be more fun (nor more substantial) to play because of it.... so even if the game is, as a result, more balanced or less in favor of speed, I still fail to see why improved balance automatically amounts to an improvement in terms of enjoyability: slower or faster, more balanced or less so, the game still feels too much "on rails" to justify me paying over $50 for the same old D-PAD "simulation" game.
Pros:
PES - has UCL , master league is pretty good , off the ball controls
- Passing and shooting manual arrow
- Player ID
- player conditioning means you can't pick the same team every time
- game works from the off
- 3 games in one UCL , clubs and national teams
Fifa - real kits
- virtual pro
- game face
- gk control
Cons:
PES - KITS and TEAMS (fixed via option )
no gk control
no custom celebrations
no sliders
team sqauds still not updated til oct 15th
no low league teams
Fifa - the AI is a joke there too prefect and EA just keep making them harder so 1 star teams play like a 5 star team and they never foul or miss a shot
game is bug ridden and EA don't fix everything
after being a long time fifa fan i switched to pes 2012 after the problems
pes 13 wins cos all EA care about is the online mode and FUT , the offline side of the game is never fixed and the ai is a joke , pes 13 is better offline
if you play online only get fifa if you play offline get pes
PES - has UCL , master league is pretty good , off the ball controls
- Passing and shooting manual arrow
- Player ID
- player conditioning means you can't pick the same team every time
- game works from the off
- 3 games in one UCL , clubs and national teams
Fifa - real kits
- virtual pro
- game face
- gk control
Cons:
PES - KITS and TEAMS (fixed via option )
no gk control
no custom celebrations
no sliders
team sqauds still not updated til oct 15th
no low league teams
Fifa - the AI is a joke there too prefect and EA just keep making them harder so 1 star teams play like a 5 star team and they never foul or miss a shot
game is bug ridden and EA don't fix everything
after being a long time fifa fan i switched to pes 2012 after the problems
pes 13 wins cos all EA care about is the online mode and FUT , the offline side of the game is never fixed and the ai is a joke , pes 13 is better offline
if you play online only get fifa if you play offline get pes
tremolo arm
Registered User
Preface
I used to love PES on the PS2 and whilst largely aware of FIFA in those days, I remained a devoted fan of the former and only a sporadic user of the latter.
Then it all changed with the current generation of consoles. We all know that PES lost its way and FIFA gradually became the only plausible sim alternative (though still far from a perfect game).
As usual, I would always buy both games on launch, but then I would inevitably always trade in PES and stick to FIFA. This is what happened last year too.
This year is different. Very different. I spent a lot of time playing both demos, but mainly the PES demos (1 and 2). That was the first surprise. I did not really have any high expectation from PES, but the Demos (especially the 2nd one) surprised me – in a good way. I got hooked big time. I even spent a decent amount of time learning the skills and the button configurations for most of the tricks. I looked forward to the release of the full game, which I got on Friday.
In parallel I also downloaded FIFA’s early release on Saturday and that brings us to present day.
Retail (final) version
Luckily I had the weekend free and I spent a decent time with both games. I am deeply torn between the two games. My preference towards one or the other changes constantly. There are features from one that I so wish the other had and vice versa. I would start playing one, love it but then get really frustrated with a feature (or two) and then switch to the other and loving that … until a feature would frustrate me … which would make me switch to the first game.
My ultimate conclusion is that I think I will play both games this year. The pattern in which I will do that is yet to be decided but I believe both have merits in different areas and if one is patient (and forgiving) enough to overlook the shortcomings, then one is in for a treat.
PASSING
I think FIFA have nailed passing this year. With the implementation of the unpredictability deriving from “first touch” control, this year the passing is fantastic. Passes travel at a realistic pace and height (lofted balls) and the animations that go with them are just beautiful. For example - the animation of a player taking possession of a lofted through pass is still a wow moment for me. Also, the ability to micro manage the pass assistance (for both user and CPU) is a big plus because you can bridge the gap between levels.
PES lags for me in this department. Lofted balls are too high IMO, the animation of players passing the ball is frequently off (you will see a player extending the foot and toe poking the ball, which will then travel 20 meters forward) and the general feeling of executing and receiving a pass is not as crisp as in FIFA (and this has nothing to do with what assistance you choose for your passing). Looking at the animation (or lack of) when defending a lofted ball as a defender just makes me cringe every time. Also, the delay between you “ask” your keeper to pass the ball and the time when he actually does it is unacceptable and ruins and counter attack.
(Clear) winner on passing : FIFA
SHOOTING
Shooting in FIFA feels… predictable somehow. It is not bad or unrealistic, but it just feels uninspiring somehow. This is where PES, for me, has the upper hand. Scoring a goal in PES comes with a wow factor and it feels like that every time regardless of the goal scored. Headers, volleys and normal shots are just visual treats. There is just something of a magic moment that happens every time you let rip in PES.
Winner on shooting: PES
PLAYING VERSUS THE CPU
My biggest gripe with FIFA is the feeling of defending against the CPU. It is just an unrealistic experience and ultimately a very frustrating one and the reason for this is the way the CPU players dribble with the ball. The dribbles are just flawless, perfect and impossible to defend (unless the CPU “decides” to mess that up). They are very jittery with changes in direction which are impossible from a physics, momentum and inertia perspectives. In other words, as a user you feel absolutely no control of containment on the CPU attack. I have run experiments and on any level higher that Professional, even attempting a foul is a fruitless strategy to dispossess the CPU. It just feels scripted. Also, similarly to last year, the CPU will make passes which are absolutely perfect and you know that whatever you do and wherever you position your defender, the pass will get to the CPU recipient.
As mentioned, the notion of momentum and inertia is not present in FIFA and this ruins the game.
In PES, playing the CPU is more of a realistic experience. You feel in control and even when you have let in a goal, you know that that is because you have not defended it well, unlike FIFA where you feel helpless (even with good teams). On the flipside, attacking in PES feels too easy. There are too many occasions where you pass a ball which is a 50/50 in terms of who gets there first, yet the CPU makes no attempt whatsoever at playing the ball (even the animation is weird, with the CPU appearing to almost slow down because the game has decided that it is the human user who will get there first. This happens far too frequently for my liking.
I think that if I want to play online I will probably use FIFA, whereas if I want to play offline I will use PES.
Winner on playing versus the CPU: PES (just)
AI
This is an easy one for me. The lack of player runs and lack of speed and acceleration is the biggest downfall for PES. When you counter-attack your AI controlled teammates just look and feel totally disinterested and disconnected form what is happening with the ball carrier. This is even translated to the animation of a player receiving a through pass. He looks as if he has no intention getting to the ball, no sense of urgency or excitement. OK, so you can trigger a run with R3, but that is too cumbersome and very unilateral. You should not have to rely on that every time to making an attack flow.
IN contrast FIFA has made a giant step from an AI perspective. Player runs, overlaps, the general feeling of unfolding an attack is great and a true spectacle. Last night I scored a truly great goal as a direct result of exploiting clever player runs. Well done FIFA for really stepping up on this (very) important feature.
Clear Winner on AI: FIFA
VISUALS
This is an interesting one for me, but easy to score if I look at visual from a static and a moving perspective. In terms of faces and player models (size and shape), PES has the upper hand IMO, however that is from a static perspective. I think I already wrote somewhere that the first camera shot that you get before kick off on a sunny day in PES is just mesmerizingly beautiful and it looks almost real. The grass also looks great and the stadiums look more realistic somehow. In contrast, FIFA models (when static) look kind of cartoony, over saturated in colour (I had to reduce the colour by 2 notches) and the faces are not on par with PES. Also, the difference in height is exaggerated (Giovinco looks likes midget). Also, the goals are too small in relation to the players, pitch and stadium.
However, as soon as you see the players move, then FIFA has the upper hand by a mile. There is a sense of fluidity between animations that PES lacks and whilst PES gives you a sense of weight and inertia (from a control perspective), FIFA players just move visually better. The only problem with FIFA is the lack of inertia (but that is more of a control feature).
Winner on visuals: static – PES, moving – FIFA.
And then some other observations on features, which contribute to the overall Game immersion and fun factor.
Positives:
- PES games feel totally unpredictable and every game is different
- Skill games in FIFA are great fun.
- EDIT mode in PES is huge and allows for all sort of things to be changed.
- Gameplan in PES is deep and immersive
- Multiple slider adjustments on FIFA will help bridge teh gap between levels
- Specific chants in PES are nice (and realistic) touch.
Negatives:
- FIFA: every game feels the same
- Refereeing in PES is annoying and it breaks the game too much, but in FIFA there are not enough falls given by the ref.
- PES lack of modes (league) is a major oversight
- Commentary in PES is... well you know
I used to love PES on the PS2 and whilst largely aware of FIFA in those days, I remained a devoted fan of the former and only a sporadic user of the latter.
Then it all changed with the current generation of consoles. We all know that PES lost its way and FIFA gradually became the only plausible sim alternative (though still far from a perfect game).
As usual, I would always buy both games on launch, but then I would inevitably always trade in PES and stick to FIFA. This is what happened last year too.
This year is different. Very different. I spent a lot of time playing both demos, but mainly the PES demos (1 and 2). That was the first surprise. I did not really have any high expectation from PES, but the Demos (especially the 2nd one) surprised me – in a good way. I got hooked big time. I even spent a decent amount of time learning the skills and the button configurations for most of the tricks. I looked forward to the release of the full game, which I got on Friday.
In parallel I also downloaded FIFA’s early release on Saturday and that brings us to present day.
Retail (final) version
Luckily I had the weekend free and I spent a decent time with both games. I am deeply torn between the two games. My preference towards one or the other changes constantly. There are features from one that I so wish the other had and vice versa. I would start playing one, love it but then get really frustrated with a feature (or two) and then switch to the other and loving that … until a feature would frustrate me … which would make me switch to the first game.
My ultimate conclusion is that I think I will play both games this year. The pattern in which I will do that is yet to be decided but I believe both have merits in different areas and if one is patient (and forgiving) enough to overlook the shortcomings, then one is in for a treat.
PASSING
I think FIFA have nailed passing this year. With the implementation of the unpredictability deriving from “first touch” control, this year the passing is fantastic. Passes travel at a realistic pace and height (lofted balls) and the animations that go with them are just beautiful. For example - the animation of a player taking possession of a lofted through pass is still a wow moment for me. Also, the ability to micro manage the pass assistance (for both user and CPU) is a big plus because you can bridge the gap between levels.
PES lags for me in this department. Lofted balls are too high IMO, the animation of players passing the ball is frequently off (you will see a player extending the foot and toe poking the ball, which will then travel 20 meters forward) and the general feeling of executing and receiving a pass is not as crisp as in FIFA (and this has nothing to do with what assistance you choose for your passing). Looking at the animation (or lack of) when defending a lofted ball as a defender just makes me cringe every time. Also, the delay between you “ask” your keeper to pass the ball and the time when he actually does it is unacceptable and ruins and counter attack.
(Clear) winner on passing : FIFA
SHOOTING
Shooting in FIFA feels… predictable somehow. It is not bad or unrealistic, but it just feels uninspiring somehow. This is where PES, for me, has the upper hand. Scoring a goal in PES comes with a wow factor and it feels like that every time regardless of the goal scored. Headers, volleys and normal shots are just visual treats. There is just something of a magic moment that happens every time you let rip in PES.
Winner on shooting: PES
PLAYING VERSUS THE CPU
My biggest gripe with FIFA is the feeling of defending against the CPU. It is just an unrealistic experience and ultimately a very frustrating one and the reason for this is the way the CPU players dribble with the ball. The dribbles are just flawless, perfect and impossible to defend (unless the CPU “decides” to mess that up). They are very jittery with changes in direction which are impossible from a physics, momentum and inertia perspectives. In other words, as a user you feel absolutely no control of containment on the CPU attack. I have run experiments and on any level higher that Professional, even attempting a foul is a fruitless strategy to dispossess the CPU. It just feels scripted. Also, similarly to last year, the CPU will make passes which are absolutely perfect and you know that whatever you do and wherever you position your defender, the pass will get to the CPU recipient.
As mentioned, the notion of momentum and inertia is not present in FIFA and this ruins the game.
In PES, playing the CPU is more of a realistic experience. You feel in control and even when you have let in a goal, you know that that is because you have not defended it well, unlike FIFA where you feel helpless (even with good teams). On the flipside, attacking in PES feels too easy. There are too many occasions where you pass a ball which is a 50/50 in terms of who gets there first, yet the CPU makes no attempt whatsoever at playing the ball (even the animation is weird, with the CPU appearing to almost slow down because the game has decided that it is the human user who will get there first. This happens far too frequently for my liking.
I think that if I want to play online I will probably use FIFA, whereas if I want to play offline I will use PES.
Winner on playing versus the CPU: PES (just)
AI
This is an easy one for me. The lack of player runs and lack of speed and acceleration is the biggest downfall for PES. When you counter-attack your AI controlled teammates just look and feel totally disinterested and disconnected form what is happening with the ball carrier. This is even translated to the animation of a player receiving a through pass. He looks as if he has no intention getting to the ball, no sense of urgency or excitement. OK, so you can trigger a run with R3, but that is too cumbersome and very unilateral. You should not have to rely on that every time to making an attack flow.
IN contrast FIFA has made a giant step from an AI perspective. Player runs, overlaps, the general feeling of unfolding an attack is great and a true spectacle. Last night I scored a truly great goal as a direct result of exploiting clever player runs. Well done FIFA for really stepping up on this (very) important feature.
Clear Winner on AI: FIFA
VISUALS
This is an interesting one for me, but easy to score if I look at visual from a static and a moving perspective. In terms of faces and player models (size and shape), PES has the upper hand IMO, however that is from a static perspective. I think I already wrote somewhere that the first camera shot that you get before kick off on a sunny day in PES is just mesmerizingly beautiful and it looks almost real. The grass also looks great and the stadiums look more realistic somehow. In contrast, FIFA models (when static) look kind of cartoony, over saturated in colour (I had to reduce the colour by 2 notches) and the faces are not on par with PES. Also, the difference in height is exaggerated (Giovinco looks likes midget). Also, the goals are too small in relation to the players, pitch and stadium.
However, as soon as you see the players move, then FIFA has the upper hand by a mile. There is a sense of fluidity between animations that PES lacks and whilst PES gives you a sense of weight and inertia (from a control perspective), FIFA players just move visually better. The only problem with FIFA is the lack of inertia (but that is more of a control feature).
Winner on visuals: static – PES, moving – FIFA.
And then some other observations on features, which contribute to the overall Game immersion and fun factor.
Positives:
- PES games feel totally unpredictable and every game is different
- Skill games in FIFA are great fun.
- EDIT mode in PES is huge and allows for all sort of things to be changed.
- Gameplan in PES is deep and immersive
- Multiple slider adjustments on FIFA will help bridge teh gap between levels
- Specific chants in PES are nice (and realistic) touch.
Negatives:
- FIFA: every game feels the same
- Refereeing in PES is annoying and it breaks the game too much, but in FIFA there are not enough falls given by the ref.
- PES lack of modes (league) is a major oversight
- Commentary in PES is... well you know
Makavelian
Registered User
Fifa 13!
Only thing I prefer about PES is the short passing game.
Only thing I prefer about PES is the short passing game.
Anysecondnow
Registered User
Fifa is a good game, but it has to be Pes for me.....
Could you elaborate more on that......? Where exactly in the game is "off the picth"
The menus? :huh:
That is definitely not a fair answer and your post does show allegiance to PES.
My answer here is fair.
Maybe your mates are right in saying that Fifa looks better than PES ...who decides which is better?
So your belief is that they are fucking blind...because what they see for themselves...is not really real. It is really because Fifa adverts fucked up their visions...right? :w00t
But you know which looks better right? You are not blinded by bias at all now are ya buddy?
I am amused by your retarded thinking that in 2012 Fifa advertising is blinding millions of fans to believe that the game is better looking when its not.
This means that millions of fans have no brain and are easily swayed by adverts....those brain dead idiots. :realmad:
Why can't they just see that the less popular game is better...i don't know why?
:no:
Apocalypse88
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The main reason(s) i really dont like Fifa
Ali
It is happening again
Basically anything outside of the matches..... pretty self explanatory really.
Stoyaninho
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Techboy said it all. Pes in his core gameplay will be always better than fifa core!
I cannot understand how at all can compare both games.
PES is at miles better than Fifa as a whole.
FIFA is a childlish game with small plastic figures without any weight and inertia, moving extremely unrealistic. Game play without any spirit . How could somebody enjoy this?
Such is my emotion when i play FIFA -> When i do attack :mellow: , ..then i score a goal :mellow: .
In PES -> When i do attack
,..score a goal . I think that says it all!
Amateur
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That can be argued quite easily, I mean, PES13 has horrible off the ball movement, and off the ball movement is not just another secondary feature, off the ball movement is an essential "core" element of the game.
I'm just in complete disbelief, of what Konami have done since PES11.
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use r2 for derail the player ..
so 701 % for pes
Haha. Pathetic PS2 engine still on rails.
FIFA 13 by 8 miles. (And I haven't even played FIFA 13 yet)