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First impressions (better/worse/same)

Your first impression?

  • It's better

    Votes: 87 65.4%
  • It's worse

    Votes: 6 4.5%
  • It's the same

    Votes: 6 4.5%
  • This is the game I've been waiting 4 years for

    Votes: 34 25.6%

  • Total voters
    133

Hunter

BELIEVE
Graphics: Somewhat worse than I expected... it's still the demo and I hope it gets fixed on the release version (RV).

Menu: Improved, good looks. Don't like the constant tweaking of the formations menu every new release, though. Still haven't found a stamina indicator in the formation menu.

Passing: One word: FREAKING BRILIANT!!!!
Through balls are a godsend!

Overall, I'm very pleased with the demo.
Still hope to see some things worked on, but I can say I'll definitely buy it (while hoping that the online mode has improved as greatly as the overall game).

Valid points, and it's nice to see people all coming to similar viewpoints regarding the game. I'm sure Konami will be happy, especially with the poll results as in previous years it's been very negative! It seems we may have finally turned a corner in the PES world.

Oh mate, and as for the stamina bars, it's just like in previous PES games, when you're in the formation menu just tap RB (or R1 on the PS3 I imagine) and it will show the players overall stats and also their stamina and condition arrow too. :) I'll admit to wondering where they were after my first few matches too, then I just pressed a few buttons. I do love the new formation and tactics menu though, it just seems a lot easier to navigate and use.
 

Bite.Me

Registered User
Valid points, and it's nice to see people all coming to similar viewpoints regarding the game. I'm sure Konami will be happy, especially with the poll results as in previous years it's been very negative! It seems we may have finally turned a corner in the PES world.

Oh mate, and as for the stamina bars, it's just like in previous PES games, when you're in the formation menu just tap RB (or R1 on the PS3 I imagine) and it will show the players overall stats and also their stamina and condition arrow too. :) I'll admit to wondering where they were after my first few matches too, then I just pressed a few buttons. I do love the new formation and tactics menu though, it just seems a lot easier to navigate and use.

Ah, thanks mate!
I knew they were there... somewhere! :blush:

I'm still exploring all the different combinations on the formation menu... there's still some things I haven't looked at.
 

worm

Registered User
I really hope they sort out the long ball. Every time i hit a long ball from one side of the pitch to the other, their opposing full back can usually nip in and break. 2010 was the same and its frustrating. It takes ages to switch play from one side to the other. I know that if you hit balls on the diagonal, they are quicker, but straight across from one side to the other is useless.
 

MaccyP2909

Registered User
Wow!

I love it!

The graphics are an improvement on last year to start of with!

The new passing system is a great addition. Takes a bit of gettin used to but its does lead to some incredible passes that even Paul Scholes would be jealous of!

The computer AI is alot better and its actually quite hard to beat the computer on Top player. Well maybe thats just coz I'm not used to the new gameplay yet. So far I've played 4 games as Barca and have W1 (but that was against my brother) D1 (I should have won! God Damm peanalties.......more on that in a bit) L2. I have managed to score in all games which is a bonus just need to sort myself out at the back!

A few little niggles and they are only little...........

The refs are a bit harsh. There are a few free kicks given for very little contact but I suppose outside of the Prem thats probably true to life.

And.............

The god damm penalties! I still don't like this penalty system that came in last year! They really should more the camera to behind the taker.

But apart from these niggles which I can more than live with it's great. Can't wait for the full version to come out so we can check out BAL and MLO

Well Done Konami!
 

8gerrard8

Registered User
I really hope they sort out the long ball. Every time i hit a long ball from one side of the pitch to the other, their opposing full back can usually nip in and break. 2010 was the same and its frustrating. It takes ages to switch play from one side to the other. I know that if you hit balls on the diagonal, they are quicker, but straight across from one side to the other is useless.

But...this applies to real life too...whih is why full backs rarely do so because it's risky. If you want to get it from one side to the other do a low pass at max power or risk the high ball but the full back must be accurate and have decent passing speed (I can do it with Alves successfully).
 

The_whisper

Registered User
Graphics:
9/10 - definite improvement
Sound:
N/A - Cant say till we play full game. Ball sound doesn't fell right though

Commentary: N/A

Menu: 10/10

Shooting: 3/10 ! KONAMI WTF?????? BRING BACK PES 2010 Shooting system NOW!

Passing: 9.5/10

Dribbling:9/10

Goalkeepers:9/10

Freekicks:7/10

Penalties:8/10

Skills:N/A
 

owls2k

Registered User
Just had a great game on Top Player

I was Barca, 1 down.

Equalised with the last kick of the first half with a cut back to Messi who smashed it in.

Then scored with the last kick of the game. Love that PES feeling!
 

access05

Registered User
Brilliant the football game i have waited years for! It fells like real football. In previous years its has been hard work to get your players to react in the way you want - the players actually perform like professional footballers on the pitch, no bunching and 6 players running after the ball, its more organised - i can feel the freedom in this game - thanks konami, can't wait for the full game!
9.5/10 there is always room for improvement though!
 

skickahit10

Registered User
Graphics: Very nice, works well in high-res on my "old" notebook graphics card as well (Radeon HD 3670). New animations are pretty nice too even though the fall-on-the-ass animation occurs regardless of if a player is tackled from behind or front-on.

Sound: Demo:ish I hope, because it's pretty bad

Commentary: -

Menu:
Sleek menus. Improvement over last year.

Shooting: The ball is much lighter than in PES 2010 whose heavier ball I prefer. But hopefully one gets used to it. The new controls improves the shooting though, it's easier to aim.

Passing: 10/10! The no.1 weak spot of PES 2010 is now almost perfected.

Dribbling: Haven't really figured it out yet.

Goalkeepers: Less dumb than in PES 2010 for sure. Haven't witnessed any extreme 2010-stupidity yet.

Freekicks: Pretty much the same as in PES 2010. Which is ok.

Penalties: Keeps PES 2010's awful system where you're not really sure where the hell you aim. A certain goal opportunity breaks down to a lottery.

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Good points:
:)
+ Much improved passing/handling of the ball

+ Slow realistic pace

+ Graphics look very nice

+ Refs aren't blind anymore

Bad points: :realmad:
- Computer switches players automatically and there's no way of turning it off....has ruined so many things for me, mostly through unwanted tackles. You could turn this off in PES 2010 and I surely hopes that it's only the demo of PES 2011 that lacks this option.

- Ball sometime behaves like a wad of cotton when you shoot

- Players are generally too sluggish

- Refs are now, as they've regained their eye-sight, over-protective. even fair tackles are called as fouls.

- Replays after every little incident on the pitch ruins the fluid play and drives you mad
 

Dundon's

W.G.P
Well regardless of how good the poll is looking for PES this year, players have an issue with the shooting, this seems to stick out as the big problem so far. How the hell can these so called game testers let something like this slide?, I mean you'd think someone in the camp would of had the balls to stand up and say "lads!, you know that new shooting thing you got going?, well you wrecked the game". Lets just hope it's fixed in the full release.

But we know it won't really.
 

8gerrard8

Registered User
Shooting isn't bad, just more difficult. It now takes skill and timing to score goals from range. But 1 thing that is missing is power drives from PES 2010.
 

jdlsantos

Registered User
I'm loving the game so far.

The passing even after ten or so games seems to have a learning curve still.

The shooting is very hard to get used to. I think the shot power ratings and technique player a larger role this year. Shooting a ball with Villa with the bar halfway from 25 yds. and doing the same with Messi yield very different results.

Defending is soooo much better as you don't have to instantly challenge the ball handler is just close him down instead.

For those that don't like the AI auto slide tackling go to Manager settings and under 'Auto Trigger' settings theres a option to turn off auto sliding among a few other choices.

I love the game plan screen and being able to change tactics depending on the score, time.

I love how you can put players anywhere you want on the pitch and choose their roles. I do miss the option to have a player have an attack/defensive mindedness. But I think the Manager settings fixes that with the different possession settings (OFF/DEF)

Still haven't scored on a screamer yet, but I've had my share of GOTW type goals. I
 

pard

Registered User
Graphics:
8/10 - it's better, but could be better
Sound:
Let's wait till we get chants and stuff for the teams
Commentary:
N/A
Menu: 6/10
it's ok, lacks options
Shooting: 2/10
definitely worse, if I want shitty shooting i'll just play fifa, which is better overall
Passing: 7/10
def improved, but far from perfect
Dribbling: 6/10
changes were too drastic, just removing the older controls at once is not good
Goalkeepers: 2/10
as retarded as ever
Freekicks: 5/10
way too easy
Penalties: 4/10
dont like it
Skills:
dont care for it

bad point: no option to turn off the camera panning, can't stand it overall
 

Hunter

BELIEVE
I've a feeling you're being quite cynical there 'pard'.

pard said:
Menu: 6/10
it's ok, lacks options

Menus do tend to lack options for demos. :lol: While goalkeepers are still not 'great', I wouldn't consider them as "retarded as ever" and rate them 2/10 either from the 20+ matches I've played on the demo, as they've only been directly at fault for 2 goals.

EDIT: 3 goals. :laugh:
EDIT: 4 goals. :faceplm:

I'll let you off with the keeper comments then.
 

Pride4u

Registered User
I don't think he was being cynical, I think he was simply trolling. I sense he's a FIFA fanboy who can't be at least a bit objective.

Fun fact - At first I read his nickname as 'tard'. Seems I wasn't far from the truth.
 

Hunter

BELIEVE
I don't think he was being cynical, I think he was simply trolling. I sense he's a FIFA fanboy who can't be at least a bit objective.

Fun fact - At first I read his nickname as 'tard'. Seems I wasn't far from the truth.

:laugh: "Fun fact".

Yeah, I can understand some comments like "graphics could be a bit better", but the new passing system is brilliant.

I'm really starting to enjoy the dribbling a lot more now I've got used to the feint system a bit. I still can't string together feints, but I can pull off some nice little jinks and flicks to get past opponents. I obviously pause the game and look at the replay to view my handywork. :lol: Is it just me or do the controls for the replays feel a bit more restricted this year? It doesn't seem like we're able to pan around the ball and move up and down as freely as previous PES titles which is a huge disappointment for me as I'm somewhat of a replay-fiend.
 

8gerrard8

Registered User
Graphics:
8/10 - it's better, but could be better
Sound:
Let's wait till we get chants and stuff for the teams
Commentary:
N/A
Menu: 6/10
it's ok, lacks options
Shooting: 2/10
definitely worse, if I want shitty shooting i'll just play fifa, which is better overall
Passing: 7/10
def improved, but far from perfect
Dribbling: 6/10
changes were too drastic, just removing the older controls at once is not good
Goalkeepers: 2/10
as retarded as ever
Freekicks: 5/10
way too easy
Penalties: 4/10
dont like it
Skills:
dont care for it

bad point: no option to turn off the camera panning, can't stand it overall

FIFA fanboy trolling.
 

shaun7

Registered User
I also noticed the camera controls in replays. YOU CANNOT FREE AIM IT UP AND DOWN LIKE BEFORE. I hope it's because it's a demo. It's a shame really, because free aiming up and down were really great in replays.
 
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