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First Review

abu97

Registered User
After prolonged play of both of them today, I'll definitely be getting PES this year over FIFA. Personally, I think PES is an unbelievable game and I'm genuinely excited for release.
You changed your mind after saying the demos' were broken?
 

Ali

It is happening again
final number ratings means very little, games are to varied to be condensed into a number and pes is a very different game to say, assassins creed 3

the reviews matter, not the number. though obviously people just like to see the simplest thing and use that. like OVR in fifa and pes

That's true.

One thing I would say is that if you loved the demo, the review scores aren't gonna make much difference to you - whether it got a 5/10 or a 9/10, if you loved the demo you should buy the game.
 

techboy11

Registered User
You changed your mind after saying the demos' were broken?

I can't recall saying they were broken, although I may be wrong. I did say that demo 1 was excellent and that I was disappointed with the demo 2 ammendments. I was wrong. Demo 2 has ironed out all the minor issues and player individuality is still there. Also, I was initially more impressed with the FIFA changes. But like I say, it's taken a good prolonged session or two for me to see the depth that PES has to offer and the general sameness of FIFA.

If I'm wrong I'll hold my hands up. I jumped the gun this year. In well over 50 games of PES now, I really do think it's an exceptional representation of football.
 

MozzyEng

Registered User
[MENTION=141781]abu[/MENTION]. Just interested. You were a bit unsure of the pes demo. Have you changed your mind after playing it a few weeks?. The only 2 niggles i have at the moment are not being able to go into 50/50 challenges with the keeper (Sometimes it would be easier for the player to win the ball. But then the striker goes into limp mode). And the ref waiting to blow the whistle for a foul, depending on who the ball goes to. Apart from this, Im fairly happy.
 

sgmullins

Registered User
IGN gave it an 8.5.

In my opinion, these scores are very generous. Based on the 2nd demo I still think it's a bit shit.
You know if pes 2013 had got shit scores everyone would be saying the same thing. Fifa always gets top marks when reviewed , does it deserve these high marks ?, not a chance.

I have learnt now to go on user reviews only for any game, the mags and websites can't be trusted. Saying that though it is very nice to see pes getting some positive reviews for a change.
 

IronCity

Banned
In general great online scores for either game reflects the same sentiments you see here. Once you pour through all the posts there are plenty of 10/10 for either PES or FIFA.
 

Swanee

Registered User
I don't believe in reviews the only review which matters is your own - either like it or you don't everyone else's opinion matters little!
 

IronCity

Banned
I don't believe in reviews the only review which matters is your own - either like it or you don't everyone else's opinion matters little!

It can be a bit beguiling as well. I simply stayed away from FIFA for the longest time because of the constant barrage it received. Then played and found I liked it. But I was easily swayed from PES2012 and may have not been as much from 2011.
 

Sabatasso

Banned
Excuse me, but the who the hell are you? Please show me said examples of all these posts. I have been a PES fan for a long time, and thus are entitled to my opinion over how shit I think the game has become.

You can look at these reviews from two points of view.

View #1: If PES2012 got 8/10, then surely PES2013 have to be worth more, because it's so much better in the gameplay departement that the same score is just simply a mockery to the site's integrity.

View #2: PES2012 must surely have been overrated, as 8/10 is a very good grade, and PES2012 is in all honesty not a very good game.


I think 8/10 is fitting for PES2013, at least if the PC demo is anything to go by. By all means, you clearly have a different opinion but that's just an opinion as well. Your opinion is not any more or less worth than anyone else's, and you don't need to repeat it over and over.

OK, so you're a moderator, and you're complaining about Makavelian and other people not making a "valid contribution" to the thread... I just looked at you "latest posts" and I didn't really see any valid contributions from you on the first page of threads, just a whole lot of whining, bitching and sarcasm to be honest... so would you please either practice what you preach or shut up about it?
 

Swanee

Registered User
It can be a bit beguiling as well. I simply stayed away from FIFA for the longest time because of the constant barrage it received. Then played and found I liked it. But I was easily swayed from PES2012 and may have not been as much from 2011.

I was the same with FIFA 12 with everyone dissing it but I actually liked it not as much as I liked pes 12 mind you but what I found was when I got a bit bored of pes I moved on to FIFA and played that for while until it annoyed me then went back to pes. I'll be doing the same this year too tho I'll wait for FIFA to come out as a 2nd hand copy otherwise its 100 euros for the 2 games!!
 

Swanee

Registered User
Just to prove how pointless reviews are I read 1 on the metro paper there they gave it 7/10 and all they said were the only cons were the licenses and the commentary! As bad as the commentary and license issue is they have nothing to do with the actual gameplay which they said was outstanding!!
 

IronCity

Banned
Just to prove how pointless reviews are I read 1 on the metro paper there they gave it 7/10 and all they said were the only cons were the licenses and the commentary! As bad as the commentary and license issue is they have nothing to do with the actual gameplay which they said was outstanding!!

sure, they were using the industry standard, -1.5 for commentary, -1.5 for licenses :D

so by their account, PES will never score higher than a 7 even if the best gameplay known to mankind.
 

StringerBell

Registered User
Just to prove how pointless reviews are I read 1 on the metro paper there they gave it 7/10 and all they said were the only cons were the licenses and the commentary! As bad as the commentary and license issue is they have nothing to do with the actual gameplay which they said was outstanding!!

Many reviewers give a negative to the lack of license but it isn't Konami's fault. Reviewers should know that EA has those rights tied up.
 

StringerBell

Registered User
I honestly dont think they could. EA's sport budget is massive - just look at the money they pump into Madden they saturate the shit out of the market with that game.- fast food, music videos, commercials, they even sucker ESPN into using it for analysis on pregame shows :rolleyes: FIFA money is peanuts in comparison.
 

IronCity

Banned
Oh I would agree, I would just love to know what that price tag is and what percentage of the total cost or percentage of profit it costs them. EA suckered ESPN into FIFA during the Euros as well. and BTW, Madden is turning into a disaster this year. Each time I am done with a game it shuts down my PS3. People are livid. In addiition, I hope the game modes they stole from us doesn't bleed over into FIFA13
 

Ali

It is happening again
OK, so you're a moderator, and you're complaining about Makavelian and other people not making a "valid contribution" to the thread... I just looked at you "latest posts" and I didn't really see any valid contributions from you on the first page of threads, just a whole lot of whining, bitching and sarcasm to be honest... so would you please either practice what you preach or shut up about it?

Christ! I've only just become a mod! AFTER all those posts were made! Give me a chance.

Just because I'm making criticisms about the game, does not mean it's not a valid contribution.

If I was to give the game a score, based PURELY on the demo gameplay, I would give it a 6.5/10.
 

abu97

Registered User
[MENTION=141781]abu[/MENTION]. Just interested. You were a bit unsure of the pes demo. Have you changed your mind after playing it a few weeks?. The only 2 niggles i have at the moment are not being able to go into 50/50 challenges with the keeper (Sometimes it would be easier for the player to win the ball. But then the striker goes into limp mode). And the ref waiting to blow the whistle for a foul, depending on who the ball goes to. Apart from this, Im fairly happy.
I still don’t think the gameplay is as good as people make it out as, even so this is gameplay we should be getting a game like this in 2008. Also, the niggles that frustrate me is the freedom of the ball when passing, dribbling and shooting – it feels locked and pre-programmed which can lead to scripting. I’m enjoying it though as it is a big improvement over 2012 so I will be getting it within a week of release
 

shaun7

Registered User
I still don’t think the gameplay is as good as people make it out as, even so this is gameplay we should be getting a game like this in 2008. Also, the niggles that frustrate me is the freedom of the ball when passing, dribbling and shooting – it feels locked and pre-programmed which can lead to scripting. I’m enjoying it though as it is a big improvement over 2012 so I will be getting it within a week of release

Abu, I am in the same boat as you on this one. The game feel outdated, but somehow, I still find some enjoyment out of it unlike in Pes 12 and it is enjoyable enough to be played and have some fun.

Ofcourse, what you said is actually very true. Sometimes the player runs towards the ball in a pre determined way and that SHOULDN'T happen by any means. But the goal variation for one is actually impressive as I have never scored the same goal and that's saying something. Ofcourse this was on demo 2 because they toned down the through passes.

So overall, I would rate pes 13 a 7-7.5 mostly.
 
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