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FORGET PES2009 - Lets develope + produce our own game!

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NUFC
And how do you propose to a) fund, b) find time, c) find a publisher etc for all this.

Utter bollocks.
 

Miggy

Mr Lover Man
And how do you propose to a) fund, b) find time, c) find a publisher etc for all this.

Utter bollocks.

Read his post, ads. He's got millionaire contacts init.

Maybe we should just wait till PES 2009 is actually out before we jump the gun and send people money to make a game for the fans.
 

Amateur

Registered User
And how do you propose to a) fund, b) find time, c) find a publisher etc for all this.

Utter bollocks.

Yeah, it sounds Impossible.. but really, if Bill Gates was bored with his life and wanted to produce a great Football Sim, he could buy his way to it.

It is 99.9% Impossible -but- if someone with the right connections, right amount of Money, etc, etc.. wanted to do such a thing, Why Not??
 

cmccolgan27

Registered User
my best mate's family own a huge section of melbourne, basically 2 whole suburbs and they have an insurance firm aswell. they have maserati's, big house, all the stuff loaded people have LOL. what im doing at the moment inbetween reading comments here is finding out all the red tape i need to cut and how the whole process works.
-3000 PC games were made in 2002 only around 100 - 150 were profitable
-only 50 made significant money - i.e SIMS
-1 - 5 million back in 2002 to develop a game
-250k - 1.5 million for the publisher to market the game.
- developer takes anywhere from 10 - 25 percent for royalty
- 1.5 mil upfront to developer b4 the commencement of making the game
this is all the figures for a PC PLATFORM game
 

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NUFC
my best mate's family own a huge section of melbourne, basically 2 whole suburbs and they have an insurance firm aswell. they have maserati's, big house, all the stuff loaded people have LOL. what im doing at the moment inbetween reading comments here is finding out all the red tape i need to cut and how the whole process works.
-3000 PC games were made in 2002 only around 100 - 150 were profitable
-only 50 made significant money - i.e SIMS
-1 - 5 million back in 2002 to develop a game
-250k - 1.5 million for the publisher to market the game.
- developer takes anywhere from 10 - 25 percent for royalty
- 1.5 mil upfront to developer b4 the commencement of making the game
this is all the figures for a PC PLATFORM game

Right, and you're gonna ask your friends family to loan you then money!? :chanlaugh:
 

cmccolgan27

Registered User
hey his dad is greedy for more money. if i can provide a the proof that money can be made and that he will make money he will invest. but i will have to persuade him into it. so ill have to continue with my research and have a detailed outline of the game and every thing with all the processes and present it nice and proffessional to his dad i dont see why he wouldnt. it like the stock market but if i can show him their is no risk and high rewards who wouldnt invest in it. but also i wouldnt con him either just to make it if it wasnt going to be profitable to him in the long run.
Dont bag me either!
also he is only Plan A
Plan b is actually presenting the whole thing to a bank and getting a loan
Plan c is to set up a share scheme like a stock market and everyone buys shares and when i have enough money ill make the game and then when the profits/if any are made the profit will be devided by the amount of shares and a devidend will be paid for each share in the company to the share holder.
Plan d ill make a company up and list the company a float on the stock exchange.

my GFs dad has PHDs in business and is a teacher at a uni so ill prob get him to run the show.

it upto u guys do you think you would buy my game.

Imagine the game play perfect and realistic.
any moves that happen on the pitch can be done.

modes of play will be:
exibition
master league - equivelant/simlar team career
Be a Pro - simlar - this has been my dream to be in a game for years but no one can do it right. it fustrates me.
various cups
online - leagues, cups, exibitions.
training mode
editor
 

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NUFC
So your proof to your mates Dad is what? 5 or 6 people on a PES forum saying they'll buy the game for £40 a pop. Hardly gonna see a good return on his layout is he mate. Have you really thought this through?
 

pes guy

Registered User
hey his dad is greedy for more money. if i can provide a the proof that money can be made and that he will make money he will invest. but i will have to persuade him into it. so ill have to continue with my research and have a detailed outline of the game and every thing with all the processes and present it nice and proffessional to his dad i dont see why he wouldnt. it like the stock market but if i can show him their is no risk and high rewards who wouldnt invest in it. but also i wouldnt con him either just to make it if it wasnt going to be profitable to him in the long run.
Dont bag me either!
also he is only Plan A
Plan b is actually presenting the whole thing to a bank and getting a loan
Plan c is to set up a share scheme like a stock market and everyone buys shares and when i have enough money ill make the game and then when the profits/if any are made the profit will be devided by the amount of shares and a devidend will be paid for each share in the company to the share holder.
Plan d ill make a company up and list the company a float on the stock exchange.

my GFs dad has PHDs in business and is a teacher at a uni so ill prob get him to run the show.

it upto u guys do you think you would buy my game.

Imagine the game play perfect and realistic.
any moves that happen on the pitch can be done.

modes of play will be:
exibition
master league - equivelant/simlar team career
Be a Pro - simlar - this has been my dream to be in a game for years but no one can do it right. it fustrates me.
various cups
online - leagues, cups, exibitions.
training mode
editor

go on dragons den mate :D
 

genexsis

Registered User
Before you make yourself ridiculous.. why dont you be smarter and make a pilot.
Or a script for you football game?

Your have more chance of writing EA or Konami 1 letter a day for things that u want in the game then doing all this stuff..

Konami cant even get the licenses and EA is a big compagnie that:

A buys al the good programmers, marketeers and they already started to listen to the community... By the time u are all set up, we have moved on to better things... Like ps4..
 

cmccolgan27

Registered User
once you have the intial 3d engine you are a go. it like every business it takes time to make money. 40 pound a pop X 1 mil isnt bad , even 500k people.
its not the 5 or 6 people on here that will convince him its the fact that soccer apeals to a large audience and if you tap into it you can make money. if every footy fan in the world gave you a dollar you would prob be a billionaire. the fact of the matter is their is only 2 footy game makers on console and they have equal share of the market. to ea fifa is their little cash cow and they only gave it a rev up last year. so im expecting another 5 years of average to none improvements. and same goes for Konami but i beleive its closer maybe only 3 years away from a shake up with the game. they have it to easy and we are the suckers, they dont care about us. they dont. thats why im driven to develop this new game.
 

cmccolgan27

Registered User
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Why the hell did they not add anything to Master League? Is this not the mode which all pes gamers play the most? I thought this game was supposed to be a serious next gen effort, yet the only improvement to Master League is a slight tweak made to the negotiation system. I just cannot get my head around how they can leave out all the features of the previous ML's, like the training mode. How can this not be used on a much more powerful console? You have to genuinely wonder if the development team at Konami are actually lazy (with regards to researching fans opinions and implementing new features) or maybe even stupid.

How is this game supposed to be next gen if all they to do improve the gameplay is go back to the gameplay they used on games they made years before.
 

4everFutbol

Registered User
This is one of the funniest topics I have ever read online. He sounds like a 15 year old with no clue about how the world works.

Your dad played with Pele and Beckenbauer
Your friend owns 2 suburbs in Melbourne
Your know 2 millionaire with "spare" millions to fund your video game (best one)
All your modes of play are the exact same as PES with 1 from fifa.

lol.

I'm a big dreamer, but you have to be a little smarter to do something like this.
 

seantkd

Registered User
i see euromillions is up to £55 million this week. if i win it i suppose i could spare the $5 dollars you were asking for. count me in as long as the the game plays like striker on the super nintendo
 

maxcavalera

Registered User
this isn't a issue that done with "let's make a game". it needs power,source,money,machines lots of things. calm down.
 

shankly is god

Registered User
your insane mate im dooing programming in uni and have done other graphical stuff and im sorry its not easy at all you need to devote your life almost to making games etc....... i think you are totally of the planet
 

cmccolgan27

Registered User
the only hard thing is money and i reckon i have that covered. also dont get cought up in the modes either cos what i have planned blows pes and fifa away.
 

proevofan88

Registered User
the only hard thing is money and i reckon i have that covered. also dont get cought up in the modes either cos what i have planned blows pes and fifa away.

Are you fucking nuts man? if a comapny like EA with all that money cant make a DECENT title wth would you make?

Dont be an idiot....just save up 50 dlls or 40 pounds and buy PES 2009
 
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