Which part?
Not everyone is as perfect as you, obviously. I know more than enough about the beautiful game having played it and being pretty damn good at it. The fact I cannot paste PES on top difficulty is nothing to do with the game.
People defected to FIFA because they actually bucked up their ideas. Had FIFA stayed at 07/08 level then PES would no doubt still be the preferred choice. There are many ex PES die-hard's (and still hopefuls) on this site who will openly admit that lack of improvement has been the deciding factor, rather than difficulty.
Try a different genre then :faceplm: If games are just too damn easy for you then get yourself outside and do some physical labour. Tax yourself.
How long have you been on the forum? Look how many one post wonders there have been... cannot get more casual than that eh?
Whatever you say, you are correct and I am too perfect: boring. Anyways, you always win, which from my experience, is the only way you know how to argue: like a know it all asshole.
This is the only time I have ever seen you commenting anything about the game, certainly the 1st time you have ever replied to me on a PES related subject, and you are in here JUDGING someone who you simply do not know. I think all your posts in this thread are completely out of context, and exaggerating on a very simple point.
Honestly, I should not waste my time arguing with someone like you: I am a perfect asshole who apparently never works out nor does anything physical. Yeah, you are spot on about that, funny how you can tell so much based on nothing.
The fact still is that PES10 and FIFA10 are rubbish, I enjoy playing PES from time to time, I paid the same amount of money that you did, but it still is a PS2 game with PS3 graphics and animations: I want my money's worth.
If you have a problem with that, which apparently you do, having shown your discontent with your two posts in this thread: I honestly could not care less about whatever you think the word ''casual'' means to you.
To be honest with you, I don't give a shit about your WEAK argument about PES or FIFA: you want to talk about PES, I am open to any sort of discussion regarding PES or FIFA, but at least you should present a solid argument.
If you cannot handle PES on top difficulty: do not play it on top difficulty, that's why we have settings.
The fact remains that PES10 is actually better when not played in the hardest difficulty setting. PES10 is actually more realistic when not played on top difficulty; and in my opinion, it is also easier when played in top difficulty.
Which is one of the many FACTS that support the FACT that PES is a flawed and complicated and OUTDATED game: just like FIFA... revolving around endless running, easy and repetitive goals, and complicated controls that would not be necessary in the 1st place if the game had actually improved or evolved after 15 years of the same bullshit.
Play PES or FIFA, and try to look for anything slightly related to actually playing Football: it's a monotonous ping-pong game, playing football is impossible due to the lack of consistency, simplicity, and substance.
Casual, to my eyes, is just another word for: dumb consumer who will spend a lot of money on the same identical game year after year, and probably, someone who will never question the improvements or lack of improvement of the franchise.
The most ''hardcore'' game, if done properly, would actually be easier to play and more intuitive than PES10 or FIFA10. Identifying the word ''hardcore'' with complicated controls and complicated gameplay, it just does not works that way with football sims; or better said, should not work that way with football sims.
But of course, I'm sure you know what you are talking about, so I'll leave it at that... There's no point in having any sort of discussion with someone who judges a person over a video game + also thinks his opinion amounts to facts.
I enjoy your posts or views on other topics, but as an experienced PES and FOOTBALL geek, I think you are way off the mark when it comes to PES: yes people are casual, but these so-called ''casual fans'', they would quickly jump ship after experiencing a ''hardcore'' football simulation, make no mistakes about it.
I think PES 2011 will be closer to the ''hardcore'' football sim that I and other people want: simple controls, simple but clever gameplay, not revolving around the speed at which the players run with and without the ball which amounts to a ping-pong game, and certainly not revolving around the complicated and overly sensitive controls that a lot of people tend to identify with ''hardcore gamers''.
I still expect the game to remain a ping-pong game at its heart, but a smarter and simpler and more consistent ping-pong game.
With all being said, I can also see that my 1st post in this thread was uncalled for and deserves the criticism, because what I should have said was that the ''hardcore gamer'' tag should not worry anyone.
The problem is, that we have different definitions for ''casual'' and for ''hardcore'' and, in my 1st post in this thread, I made the stupid mistake of assuming that everyone shared the same view of what I think a proper ''hardcore'' game is and whom I consider ''hardcore'' fans.
At least that's my opinion about PES 2011, yes it is aimed at the hardcore fans, but by ''hardcore'' Konami does not means that PES 2011 will revolve around complicated and overly sensitive controls like FIFA's right analogue stick dribbling gimmicks, etc.
Though perhaps, as it is my opinion with both PES10 and PES5, perhaps I will find the game more enjoyable and more realistic and less easy: when not playing it at top difficulty.
it will be much harder for them!
