How to crazy shot?

[abu97]

The keeper operates differently in training mode than in a match situation. I'm not sure if it's because of shots being partially covered by defenders, or if they simply use a different AI.

Besides, I don't really give a flying fart if you believe me or not. I never said that I scored most of my goals from that area, only that I scored almost every time I was unpressured in that position with a decent shooter. The lower shooting stats, the lesser goals scored, obviously. As I play mostly with Spurs, the shooters are mostly Modric, Parker and Van der Vaart. I notice a good deal difference between the three, obviously. Body positioning is more important than player abilities, though, and the worse the shooter, the more important positioning and balance are.

I kinda like this years shooting, as it works if you know how to do it, and you can't blast supergoals on a regular basis without having a clue about the game. It separates the good players from the not so good players, and team strength does not matter as much as it used to during two player or online. I wouldn't mind the shot power being a little bit harder, though.

I actually score most of my goals from clear cut chances inside the box. Hardly ever from headers, except the odd nod from Adebayor.

PS. Don't forget to lob the keeper, "change player" button + shoot is almost too good in this release. I use it whenever the keeper leave the line for some reason, and it works too good once you sort out how much power you need to put into it from different ranges.

I played a match on beginner for fun and was expecting to score 100 goals but the inevitable happened. I had millions of one-on-ones with defenders 30m away from me and they still miss. I was playing with a mediocre team with decent shooters (Aston Villa) and the amont of shots I missed was unbelievable. They then score against me with their first bllody shot on target with this fast black man speed bursting all my defenders and burying it in the corner. Eventhough I drew 1-1 and got an open net, it surely shouldn't be ths hard just to roll it past the keeper in 20 attempts on goal, shouldn't it Sabatasso? Also Sabatasso, why is it easy for the CPU to blast superblasts when we can't even put away our chances?

P.S. I used all types of shooting - R2 (Finesse), short lob, high trajected lob, knuckleshots and I still manage to score only 1!

 

[Sabatasso]

Ouch, abu97. Maybe you should just admit that you're not very good at this game? :tongue:

In all honesty, though, I don't have that problem at all. And I am not using any gameplay edited exe files at the moment either. Although they are preferable to the original files in many ways, but I also find them to be somewhat bugged with the current bigpatch I'm using.

You must be doing something wrong, do you make sure you have a two step run up before shots? are your players balanced and positioned "right" for a shot?

For 1 on 1's you could always just pass the ball into the net, if you're using no passing assistance. I do that quite often, depends on the situation really. I prefer lobbing, but if keeper is slow off the line, and I'm pressured, a simple pass usually does the trick.

 

[shaun7]

@abu, Pes has always been like that and it sucks tbh. On beginner, the game is so easy that it makes you take bad shots. That needs sorting, however it's not something that you can't play the game with, I mean, who plays on beginner.

 

[abu97]

@abu, Pes has always been like that and it sucks tbh. On beginner, the game is so easy that it makes you take bad shots. That needs sorting, however it's not something that you can't play the game with, I mean, who plays on beginner.

Beginner just doesn't feel like beginner. It is generally easy but for beginner (someone that has never played PE before) it seems a bit too hard and feels like PES 2011's regular level.

And Sabatasso, I don't suck at the game overall as I always dominate shots and possession so its probably just shooting I suck at at. On the beginner game, I had 67 possession as I was manily playing very attackive to try to score goals.I play on professional really after they scripted superstar difficulty. I mean in PES, just because there is a player 10metres behind you, it shouldn't exert pressure on you and make you scuff the shot powerlessly or just because you are on your weak foot you can't blast the ball on target. Shooting in general relies to much on pressure and balance when it shouldn't reely on those components that much.

 

[Sabatasso]

I wasn't being dead serious abu, hence the tongue smiley. But as shaun hints towards, the game can't be compared between difficulties or training as too much stuff changes from one level to another. Competition vs exhibition is entirely different as well.

If I used jenkey's "cheat" removal, I've found Professional to be harder and much more realistic than Top Player or Superstar tbh, and also makes a pretty good setting for BAL.

PES is extremely complex, it's just too bad they haven't figured out the perfect balance on anything just yet.
The complexity where different things change, momentum, AI changes and what not, are simply there to make the game less bland and predictable, so without it every match would seem more or less the same. I personally just think they overdo the interference with chance in many cases.

 

[Pokervriend]

@Sabatasso.

kinda like this years shooting, as it works if you know how to do it, and you can't blast supergoals on a regular basis without having a clue about the game. It separates the good players from the not so good players

Really? I'm a D1 player who plays quick matches with teams like Spurs, City, PSG against Barca/Real/Milan etc (City when playing against Barca/Real). I have a 72% win percentage. I dominate 9/10 matches, create lots of changes most of the time and have no trouble winning my matches. Yet, scoring from outside the box with a player like Pastore, Modric, Aguero etc doesn't work good for me. I have tried practicing shots for many hours, on all different ways, but I can't seem to get the hang of it. Since I control all other aspects of the game I wondered if shooting from 20m+ really requires skill, or that luck is a big factor. I want to believe you can score 7/10 unpressured shots with Sneijder from 20m+, but because nobody ever uploaded a trainings vid where they show how they score 5 times in a row (uncut and with a decent keeper), I am a bit skeptic to be honest. Mostly because I feel I have tried every shot technique. I really want to learn how you shoot exactly. Lobs, trick the keeper, pass it past the keeper etc are all a piece of cake. But the longer shot I can't seem to master. With R1 I have the best results, but still mostly 1-2 out of 10. Do you use R1 as well?

 

[Sabatasso]

I can't do it in training, to be honest. It works better during matches. And I don't use controlled shots from 20m+. But I make sure to push the ball ahead of me for a two step run up before the shot, timing seems to be important. Shooting when the keepers LOS is obscured by a defender seems to work, the keeper seems to react slower and your shots doesn't need to be scraping the posts to go in.

 

[nbn]

I score my goals with Pato 2-5 metres from goal, unless its Casillas which can give me some trouble. Other than that, I am probably one of the best Winning Eleven players you will ever come across. When I use AC Milan, my offensive is like a one way train and I envy those who use Seedorf like he was 22 at Real Madrid.

MLO is like beginner mode to me, and to score on me is like trying to lay a hit on Floyd Mayweather Jr. But dispite all that, whenever I use a trickster I will panna you like I would in real life. Training does nothing good for me since my training started when PES6 had a way more interesting dribble challenge.

My point is, the lack of knowledge in PES 2012 is beyond my expectation whenever I see people use Dodo, Burchet and expect to play proper football.

 

[Pokervriend]

I can't do it in training, to be honest. It works better during matches. And I don't use controlled shots from 20m+. But I make sure to push the ball ahead of me for a two step run up before the shot, timing seems to be important. Shooting when the keepers LOS is obscured by a defender seems to work, the keeper seems to react slower and your shots doesn't need to be scraping the posts to go in.

Ty, you concentrate on timing and sometimes the keepers line of sight a lot. With the controls, do you press any buttom beside the aiming with the analog and the shoot button (R1, L1, ...)?

 

[Sabatasso]

when playing from left to right, I push left analog stick straight up to aim to the left side of the goal, straight down for the right side of the goal. Other than pushing the ball a bit in front of me, and pushing the shoot button to a desired gauge level as quick as possible to make the player "aware" of my intentions as soon as possible for a good result. Shooting while sprinting, with no preparation like I mentioned, seems to botch the shots far too frequently for my taste.

In PES6 I remember you could shoot some real piledrivers if you timed shots correctly according to the bounce of the ball. In PES12 the timing is similar, but the better you "set up" for a shot where the ball isn't bouncing also gives great results. I mostly struggle with first-time shots in PES12, they never seem to hit the target for me, regardless of the shooter. I've had best results by aiming straight in the middle with a poor shooter, and pray that he only "miss" the target enough to still go between the posts.

 

[shaun7]

when playing from left to right, I push left analog stick straight up to aim to the left side of the goal, straight down for the right side of the goal. Other than pushing the ball a bit in front of me, and pushing the shoot button to a desired gauge level as quick as possible to make the player "aware" of my intentions as soon as possible for a good result. Shooting while sprinting, with no preparation like I mentioned, seems to botch the shots far too frequently for my taste.

Exactly how you shoot and curl in pes 12. I wish it was made easier by Konami because it is so unclear.

Yes basically a 90 degree to where you're running forward is the direction you press to aim your shots.

 

[Sabatasso]

I don't really do any curling except on FK and Corners. Controlled shots seems to curl more than normal shots, but there isn't a whole lot of curling going on tbh.

 

[pesowner]

Yes, i was talking about that. Keeper just can't save it.
And that really sucks. Its like cheating.

u say its cheating, but u sound desperate to learn how to do it?
why? do u really wanna know so bad?

 

[Pokervriend]

[Youtube]EaxPTdckiAA[/youtube]

Here is my crazy shot.

 

[abu97]

Don't know why Ashley Young doesn't have mid-range curler. Should have seen that beauty during the 8-2 trashing at Arsenal. Wheras players like Kerzhakov have it for doing simple easy ones inside the box

 

[Griciu]

BS..... you score them so often that it's nothing special anymore. They ruin the game imho, every top player is super abusing them.

oh wait, here's one I scored, top far corner, left Casillas with no reaction. Looks cool, eeh? Well not when you score them every game.

[youtube]qfdXER1220I[/youtube]

 

[abu97]

BS..... you score them so often that it's nothing special anymore. They ruin the game imho, every top player is super abusing them.

oh wait, here's one I scored, top far corner, left Casillas with no reaction. Looks cool, eeh? Well not when you score them every game.

[youtube]qfdXER1220I[/youtube]

It happens in Serie A a lot so I don't mid them and hardly anyone scores them or uses them against me. But its better than PES 2011 where you could score a powered blast from your own half - the shooting was just absurd in that game, anyone could do anything. I prefer those types of shooting in 2012 but whats unrealistic about them is how accurate they are eventhough you don't have much input in that shot.

Also, Griciu, shall I collect the online highest ranked players or MLO?

 

[Griciu]

No buddy just regular, lemme have a look at the top 5 overall. Thanks

And abu I do agree it's nice, but it's way too easy. And considering how hard it is to score from distance with other players that do not have this long range drive card, it just doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Pokervriend]

I agree it's quite an easy way to score from longer ranges against mediocre players. Myself,I rarely concede these goals. There are only a few players who can score like that, so it's not that hard to prevent Messi, Villa etc from getting in shooting position.

 

[[PST]SuSpEcT]

errm , you can score from longer distance , but with player has shot acc. and kicking power. You can score from 35 but with player with shot acc and kicking power , take a look at this website >> PES 2012 officials website :

http://www.konami-pes2012.com/eu/en/2012/01/pes-2012-tip-long-shots/